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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>85CHP510</b> <br /><small>Member # 9690</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,20,19,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> So this guy yves faber has motivated to start a drift project....I bought a completely stock 91 ft, gutted my inside, and took all my suspension out....anyone here reccomend what I should start off with?? Money is not really a big thing cuz I'm willing sto spend whatever as long as it comes out right... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>sneakyfox90</b> <br /><small>Member # 9379</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,20,19,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ur guna want coilovers, a panhard bar and serious steering angle to make the foxbody slide stable. the panhard bar is a must, it keeps the axle from moving side to side. steering angle is also important because the stock foxbody has very poor tunring radius as u may already know,(try doing a u turn in a small spot lol) thats basically the meat and potatoes of making a fox drift nicely <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> <br /><br />and a good diff (i believe faber uses a welded diff if i remember correctly) also contibutes to why his breaks loose so easily in the corners, that and a good ebrake..<br /><br />id start with maximum motorsports for quality products<br /> <br /> <small>[ February 20, 2012, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>85CHP510</b> <br /><small>Member # 9690</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,20,21,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> What kind of rear end do you think I should go with?? I got a disc brake 8.8 laying around here...what kind of gear ratio should I go with...and what shouldbi do about the ebrake <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>5.0 LsX</b> <br /><small>Member # 10017</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,20,21,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> 8.8 rear is great, gears depend on how much power your gonna put down, prob a spool diff. suspension i recommend would be the maximum motorsport heavy duty trq arm, hd lower adjustable control arms and panhard. double adjustable front control arms so you can position the wheels farther forward, mm camber/caster plates, coilover setup for the front and not the rear imo. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>iron50</b> <br /><small>Member # 11231</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,23,1,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 85CHP510:<br /><strong> So this guy yves faber has motivated to start a drift project....I bought a completely stock 91 ft, gutted my inside, and took all my suspension out....anyone here reccomend what I should start off with?? Money is not really a big thing cuz I'm willing sto spend whatever as long as it comes out right... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">call me 510 837 4856 Jonathan,<br /> <br /> <small>[ February 23, 2012, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: iron50 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92LxHatch</b> <br /><small>Member # 11387</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,24,0,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by iron50:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 85CHP510:<br /><strong> So this guy yves faber has motivated to start a drift project....I bought a completely stock 91 ft, gutted my inside, and took all my suspension out....anyone here reccomend what I should start off with?? Money is not really a big thing cuz I'm willing sto spend whatever as long as it comes out right... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">call me 510 837 4856 Jonathan, </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">^^awsome work^^ <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Duncan Motors</b> <br /><small>Member # 7045</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,24,11,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> iron 50 has sum drift drivers and cars at his shop , give him a call, he help u out with what your doing, im goin in that dierection as well and well be working together him and his shop, so common more the merrier <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>dvuspny</b> <br /><small>Member # 10949</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,24,11,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Ditto.....F.O.D.<br />You have to see his work in person. Johnathan is a great guy; he knows his stuff bout welding for sure. Many happy customers. <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>iron50</b> <br /><small>Member # 11231</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,1,24,22,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Thank you my friends we do our best to keep our customers happy! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>65 Fastback Road Race</b> <br /><small>Member # 11675</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,2,20,18,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> F.O.D fabrication on demand or Jonathan or Iron 50. <br />You all probably know my car it was in his shop for 2 month the primered and blue 65 fastback that he posted pics of every where like he did a bunch of work to it but didn’t do a thing. I got his number from this forum. Called, made an appointment to come see his work, got there, and no one was there. Left 8x10 pics of the exact cage I wanted in the exact car as mine. He called me back we talked. He quoted me $800 T&M for a 6 point Chrome Moly tigged cage. I must of asked 5 times if he was sure about that price. I figured well he's not bonded, insured, or safety certified and it was going to be a cash job, no receipt so no liability! And going to be one of his first cages, And if you stop and think about it, its 12 welds and 4 bends. If I had a bender and a tigger Id do it myself! He says he’s opening a shop as soon as its open he'll give me a call. I get the call. I insure my car for the maximum in case it burns to the ground or get stolen in good old Hayward and trailer it down. WE TALK ABOUT THE ROAD RACING NASA and SCCA SPECS HE DOSENT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE! I HAVE TO GO HOME AND FORWARD HIM THE LINKS TO THE RULES! I figure you get what you pay for! I tell him I know his estimate is low so there’s no rush use my car for fill work when he’s slow. 2- Months go by and I happen to be in the area and stop by. While I’m there, He’s installing a BOLT IN CAGE and Sub frame connectors in a 96 white Saleen and some sub frames and torque boxes in a fox notch back. My car is untouched. He says to me that he’s going to order the material so he makes a phone call and gets a price which seems high to me so I call VB in Petaluma and get the same material for $3 less a foot. I tell him Ill order the material and deliver it when does he want it? Jonathan says he needs to talk to his engineer and get me a quote. I say you already gave me a quote of $800 bucks or my car would not be here! Ohh OK. I tell him when he starts to work on it to give me a call and Ill come down and help so we make to sure to get it right! I get a call an hour later from him telling me that he talked to his engineer and it’s going to cost $1600 with out material. I asked him why would I bring my car to him with no experience, not bonded, insured, and safety uncertified and didn’t even know what the rules were and pay the same price as Griggs racing which do it cages all the time and are safety certified! I went down the next day and picked up my car! <br />Before anyone else wastes $200 bucks in gas trailer their car there read this! His work is unproven there are no cars racing on a track with a cage that he has built from scratch, if there were we would see pictures of that instead of building overhangs or butt plate welds! He is not safety certified for any sanction of racing. If you have an ok car that needs some cheap work done like a Bolt in Cage, sub frame or torque boxes installed and you don’t know how to do it yourself, he’s probably your guy! If you have a nice car that’s actually worth something and you’re going to be doing some REAL RACING your going to need to bring it to a professional shop. When I went down there and looked at his tools, I should have known! I didnt even see a welder! I’m just glad I don’t have to go into a turn and wonder if I flip if I’m going DIE! Hope this helps sorry so long<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 20, 2012, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: 65 Fastback Road Race ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>86- 50</b> <br /><small>Member # 4723</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,2,20,18,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 65 Fastback Road Race:<br /><strong> F.O.D fabrication on demand or Jonathan or Iron 50. <br />You all probably know my car it was in his shop for 2 month the primered and blue 65 fastback that he posted pics of every where like he did a bunch of work to it but didn’t do a thing. I got his number from this forum. Called, made an appointment to come see his work, got there, and no one was there. Left 8x10 pics of the exact cage I wanted in the exact car as mine. He called me back we talked. He quoted me $800 T&M for a 6 point Chrome Moly tigged cage. I must of asked 5 times if he was sure about that price. I figured well he's not bonded, insured, or safety certified and it was going to be a cash job, no receipt so no liability! And going to be one of his first cages, And if you stop and think about it, its 12 welds and 4 bends. If I had a bender and a tigger Id do it myself! He says he’s opening a shop as soon as its open he'll give me a call. I get the call. I insure my car for the maximum in case it burns to the ground or get stolen in good old Hayward and trailer it down. WE TALK ABOUT THE ROAD RACING NASA and SCCA SPECS HE DOSENT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE! I HAVE TO GO HOME AND FORWARD HIM THE LINKS TO THE RULES! I figure you get what you pay for! I tell him I know his estimate is low so there’s no rush use my car for fill work when he’s slow. 2- Months go by and I happen to be in the area and stop by. While I’m there, He’s installing a BOLT IN CAGE and Sub frame connectors in a 96 white Saleen and some sub frames and torque boxes in a fox notch back. My car is untouched. He says to me that he’s going to order the material so he makes a phone call and gets a price which seems high to me so I call VB in Petaluma and get the same material for $3 less a foot. I tell him Ill order the material and deliver it when does he want it? Jonathan says he needs to talk to his engineer and get me a quote. I say you already gave me a quote of $800 bucks or my car would not be here! Ohh OK. I tell him when he starts to work on it to give me a call and Ill come down and help so we make to sure to get it right! I get a call an hour later from him telling me that he talked to his engineer and it’s going to cost $1600 with out material. I asked him why would I bring my car to him with no experience, not bonded, insured, and safety uncertified and didn’t even know what the rules were and pay the same price as Griggs racing which do it cages all the time and are safety certified! I went down the next day and picked up my car! <br />Before anyone else wastes $200 bucks in gas trailer their car there read this! His work is unproven there are no cars racing on a track with a cage that he has built from scratch, if there were we would see pictures of that instead of building overhangs or butt plate welds! He is not safety certified for any sanction of racing. If you have an ok car that needs some cheap work done like a Bolt in Cage, sub frame or torque boxes installed and you don’t know how to do it yourself, he’s probably your guy! If you have a nice car that’s actually worth something and you’re going to be doing some REAL RACING your going to need to bring it to a professional shop. When I went down there and looked at his tools, I should have known! I didnt even see a welder! I’m just glad I don’t have to go into a turn and wonder if I flip if I’m going DIE! Hope this helps sorry so long </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">All of his supporters are going to call you a hater, but thats exactly what i been trying to warn people about with him, i have many, many more storys just like this, and i'm sure many more to come. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Duncan Motors</b> <br /><small>Member # 7045</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,2,20,19,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> dam ! i havent heard nothing like this but i remember him telling me he was having a prob where some one had him give a quote over the phone an then when the car showed up he wanted additional work done and didnt like the bill adjustment from the phone quote. and if some one is mentioning griggs pricing on stuff they should at least be close in price,a basic 6 point is around 3500 with out interior, and close to triple that if u had interior. and he definitely has a welder i think i seen two. he dont nothin else but weld lol. sorry some one was unhappy, but phone quote are impossible to give, and if u change what u want when u get there, yes the price well change. and dont trip on what other customers are paying him to do when u get there. that aint your business.thats his business. and thanks for stating how your experience went, i just seen some holes in the story. he is just opening and working out the groves as any business starting. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>epic4444</b> <br /><small>Member # 8667</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,2,24,14,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Never had any experience with Iron 50 but as a small business owner myself one thing you have to remember is your word is as important as your work. What I mean is you can't quote someone a price then double it overnight, shouldn't have even given a quote if he wasn't sure of the jobs requirements. This said if I need something welded I may hit up Jonathan for work, but I hope he remembers that as a business owner ( not some garage mechanic) his word is pretty much a verbal agreement he should really keep. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SydewayzStan</b> <br /><small>Member # 10217</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2012,2,24,14,18,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 85CHP510:<br /><strong> So this guy yves faber has motivated to start a drift project....I bought a completely stock 91 ft, gutted my inside, and took all my suspension out....anyone here reccomend what I should start off with?? Money is not really a big thing cuz I'm willing sto spend whatever as long as it comes out right... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">this should help<br /><a href="http://www.driftlive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62" target="_blank">http://www.driftlive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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