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1fastmach1
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well i got the turbo installed all i need now is exuast wrap and a good tune not to worried about distance just some one that can tune a anderson pms system dont wanna do it myself
thanks, brett
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AR_Stang
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I know Nate at A.O.P down in fresno does, im pretty sure A.E.D does to.
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quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: well i got the turbo installed all i need now is exuast wrap and a good tune not to worried about distance just some one that can tune a anderson pms system dont wanna do it myself
thanks, brett
DAMN!!! turbo now" thats whats up pimp, definitely get a tune for that bitch!
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CobramanPhil
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May I ask why you don't want to tune it yourself? The PMS was made for the guy that wants to self tune. Look over the manual it is pretty easy. If you can log a/f then you should be all set.
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Get it tune professionally
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If you never done it or have any clue how to... Just get it done by a pro
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racsirx
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Warning, dont use pump gas, the headers will crack when making high HP.
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quote: Originally posted by SAV650HAB: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: well i got the turbo installed all i need now is exuast wrap and a good tune not to worried about distance just some one that can tune a anderson pms system dont wanna do it myself
thanks, brett
DAMN!!! turbo now" thats whats up pimp, definitely get a tune for that bitch!
i talked to shawn @ A.E.D. he told me that even if he tunes it i will still have to change shit when i go to differnt allttuides and diffrent climents plus he also told me that i should do it myself sense i know the basics of the pms also told me to keep my A/F ratio between 11.1-11.5 and keep my timing between 22-26 he said turbos dont like low timing or they will fuck my exuast seats on my heads
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quote: Originally posted by racsirx: Warning, dont use pump gas, the headers will crack when making high HP.
would 100 oactane be ok or should i go to 110 or something higher it is sort of a DD but really a weekend beater
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racsirx
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C16 only which is 117 octane, when in full race mode,
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quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by racsirx: Warning, dont use pump gas, the headers will crack when making high HP.
would 100 oactane be ok or should i go to 110 or something higher it is sort of a DD but really a weekend beater
you can also use e85 (pump gas) and won't have an issue as well but you'll have to change the fuel setup to adjust for the 30-35% more fuel needed
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quote: Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by racsirx: Warning, dont use pump gas, the headers will crack when making high HP.
would 100 oactane be ok or should i go to 110 or something higher it is sort of a DD but really a weekend beater
you can also use e85 (pump gas) and won't have an issue as well but you'll have to change the fuel setup to adjust for the 30-35% more fuel needed
yeah going to swap to e-85 later on ordered my kurgan tripple fuel hat already got 8-an feed with 6-an return and need to upgrade to 80lb injectors right now i got 60's and there at 75% duty cycle already on pump gas
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CornOil_&_Boost
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quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by SAV650HAB: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: well i got the turbo installed all i need now is exuast wrap and a good tune not to worried about distance just some one that can tune a anderson pms system dont wanna do it myself
thanks, brett
DAMN!!! turbo now" thats whats up pimp, definitely get a tune for that bitch!
i talked to shawn @ A.E.D. he told me that even if he tunes it i will still have to change shit when i go to differnt allttuides and diffrent climents plus he also told me that i should do it myself sense i know the basics of the pms also told me to keep my A/F ratio between 11.1-11.5 and keep my timing between 22-26 he said turbos dont like low timing or they will fuck my exuast seats on my heads
will you be driving to Reno, Tahoe, or Oregon on a regular basis? not a lot of changing of altitudes or climates around here...
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quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by racsirx: Warning, dont use pump gas, the headers will crack when making high HP.
would 100 oactane be ok or should i go to 110 or something higher it is sort of a DD but really a weekend beater
you can also use e85 (pump gas) and won't have an issue as well but you'll have to change the fuel setup to adjust for the 30-35% more fuel needed
yeah going to swap to e-85 later on ordered my kurgan tripple fuel hat already got 8-an feed with 6-an return and need to upgrade to 80lb injectors right now i got 60's and there at 75% duty cycle already on pump gas
you honestly should be fine with 60's for now....if you are running 80's up to 75% duty cycle, you're going to need a new block because that means you're making enough power to split anything outside of a 4-bolt block in half...
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quote: Originally posted by racsirx: C16 only which is 117 octane, when in full race mode,
is that safe to use with my o2 sensors and wideband sensor
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racsirx
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I have a friend running e85 with 83lb injectors right now, he is using a FAST bank to bank system and that doesn't like anything injectors bigger than 83s, which is holding him back from making more power with e85. If your PMS doesn't hold you back from injector size then you have no worries. There is a guy in your area named Ben, who uses E85 and meth with no intercooler, runs 8.3s, who tunes also.
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quote: Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by racsirx: Warning, dont use pump gas, the headers will crack when making high HP.
would 100 oactane be ok or should i go to 110 or something higher it is sort of a DD but really a weekend beater
you can also use e85 (pump gas) and won't have an issue as well but you'll have to change the fuel setup to adjust for the 30-35% more fuel needed
yeah going to swap to e-85 later on ordered my kurgan tripple fuel hat already got 8-an feed with 6-an return and need to upgrade to 80lb injectors right now i got 60's and there at 75% duty cycle already on pump gas
you honestly should be fine with 60's for now....if you are running 80's up to 75% duty cycle, you're going to need a new block because that means you're making enough power to split anything outside of a 4-bolt block in half...
yeah plan on goin 351 stroked to a 427 later on after this block takes a dump on me
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quote: Originally posted by racsirx: I have a friend running e85 with 83lb injectors right now, he is using a FAST bank to bank system and that doesn't like anything injectors bigger than 83s, which is holding him back from making more power with e85. If your PMS doesn't hold you back from injector size then you have no worries. There is a guy in your area named Ben, who uses E85 and meth with no intercooler, runs 8.3s, who tunes also.
anderson also said that the pms will trip out with anything bigger than 83lb injectors thats why i wanna swap to 80lb injectors
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quote: Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by SAV650HAB: quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: well i got the turbo installed all i need now is exuast wrap and a good tune not to worried about distance just some one that can tune a anderson pms system dont wanna do it myself
thanks, brett
DAMN!!! turbo now" thats whats up pimp, definitely get a tune for that bitch!
i talked to shawn @ A.E.D. he told me that even if he tunes it i will still have to change shit when i go to differnt allttuides and diffrent climents plus he also told me that i should do it myself sense i know the basics of the pms also told me to keep my A/F ratio between 11.1-11.5 and keep my timing between 22-26 he said turbos dont like low timing or they will fuck my exuast seats on my heads
will you be driving to Reno, Tahoe, or Oregon on a regular basis? not a lot of changing of altitudes or climates around here...
maybe once a year to reno and mostly drivin from the bayarea to sacramento raceway
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quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: quote: Originally posted by racsirx: I have a friend running e85 with 83lb injectors right now, he is using a FAST bank to bank system and that doesn't like anything injectors bigger than 83s, which is holding him back from making more power with e85. If your PMS doesn't hold you back from injector size then you have no worries. There is a guy in your area named Ben, who uses E85 and meth with no intercooler, runs 8.3s, who tunes also.
anderson also said that the pms will trip out with anything bigger than 83lb injectors thats why i wanna swap to 80lb injectors
I would say wait then until you get your aftermarket block....
60's on race gas or even on E85 will be more than enough to support your current drivetrain...you may have to up your fuel pressure more but it's going to be something to play with...on pump gas, methanol and 60's, a friend of mine just hit 620RW on a 15 pound turbo setup with a 76mm precision turbo....for reference...and yes he has an aftermarket block
once you go to a 427, you'll need a lot more than 80's and a PMS to tune....
what is your base fuel set at now? [ November 10, 2011, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: CornOil_&_Boost ]
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44 base fuel pressure also my wastegate spring is rated @ 12 psi [ November 10, 2011, 09:53 AM: Message edited by: 79 cobra ]
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racsirx
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Turbos are not as hard on motors as blowers, a 10 second turbo stock block should live for awhile. My buddy who is running 83s and E85 with a 66mm turbo runs low 10s all day with a stock block. You only need to make 500 to 600 hp to run 10s depending on how the car is setup and it's weight.
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quote: Originally posted by 79 cobra: 44 base fuel pressure also my wastegate spring is rated @ 12 psi
you should be fine honestly....just play with it once you get the car back together...
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aite thanks every1 for the help will play with it once its done which should be in a couple of days hopefully
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