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Posted by Nasty Notch (Member # 8863) on
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Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on
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255 intank and 255 inline, stock lines. Since it's a fox grab some 94/95 fuel rails.. Budget fuel system that is proven.
Posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep (Member # 5888) on
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
stock lines..
this pump
http://aeromotiveinc.com/2011/05/340-stealth/
42 lb injectors and matching PMAS MAF
Posted by Sonic96GT (Member # 9594) on
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
stock lines..
this pump
http://aeromotiveinc.com/2011/05/340-stealth/
42 lb injectors and matching PMAS MAF
The 340 sleath is a good pump. I did some research on it, people were saying it will pump to much flow for stock lines to handle, but IDK. 255 in tank, 255 in line, #60's, and meth on stock lines and rails is what I'll be using. Stock lines and rails are good up to 600rwhp with enough pump ahead, some even make more. The meth also adds to your fuel limits capacity.
Posted by E's 89COUPE (Member # 6569) on
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Get an aeromotive fuel system and forget about your fuel Q,s you will be able to focus on what drive train you want
Posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep (Member # 5888) on
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
stock lines..
this pump
http://aeromotiveinc.com/2011/05/340-stealth/
42 lb injectors and matching PMAS MAF
The 340 sleath is a good pump. I did some research on it, people were saying it will pump to much flow for stock lines to handle, but IDK. 255 in tank, 255 in line, #60's, and meth on stock lines and rails is what I'll be using. Stock lines and rails are good up to 600rwhp with enough pump ahead, some even make more. The meth also adds to your fuel limits capacity.
Fyi..meth doesn't add to your fuel limit capacity, it lowers intake temps...
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on
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Originally posted by E's 89COUPE:
Get an aeromotive fuel system and forget about your fuel Q,s you will be able to focus on what drive train you want
Baller!!!
Not many mustang guys are ready to drop a $1000 on a fuel system. I gave him the best budget way, also get some 60lbs injectors and boost it till she blows!!!!
Posted by Sonic96GT (Member # 9594) on
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
stock lines..
this pump
http://aeromotiveinc.com/2011/05/340-stealth/
42 lb injectors and matching PMAS MAF
The 340 sleath is a good pump. I did some research on it, people were saying it will pump to much flow for stock lines to handle, but IDK. 255 in tank, 255 in line, #60's, and meth on stock lines and rails is what I'll be using. Stock lines and rails are good up to 600rwhp with enough pump ahead, some even make more. The meth also adds to your fuel limits capacity.
Fyi..meth doesn't add to your fuel limit capacity, it lowers intake temps...
Yea, my bad. I ment it increases your octane.
Posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep (Member # 5888) on
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
stock lines..
this pump
http://aeromotiveinc.com/2011/05/340-stealth/
42 lb injectors and matching PMAS MAF
The 340 sleath is a good pump. I did some research on it, people were saying it will pump to much flow for stock lines to handle, but IDK. 255 in tank, 255 in line, #60's, and meth on stock lines and rails is what I'll be using. Stock lines and rails are good up to 600rwhp with enough pump ahead, some even make more. The meth also adds to your fuel limits capacity.
Fyi..meth doesn't add to your fuel limit capacity, it lowers intake temps...
Yea, my bad. I ment it increases your octane.
it doesn't do that either..
methanol is sprayed into the intake side of your system allowing for cooler intake temps....
Posted by Sonic96GT (Member # 9594) on
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
stock lines..
this pump
http://aeromotiveinc.com/2011/05/340-stealth/
42 lb injectors and matching PMAS MAF
The 340 sleath is a good pump. I did some research on it, people were saying it will pump to much flow for stock lines to handle, but IDK. 255 in tank, 255 in line, #60's, and meth on stock lines and rails is what I'll be using. Stock lines and rails are good up to 600rwhp with enough pump ahead, some even make more. The meth also adds to your fuel limits capacity.
Fyi..meth doesn't add to your fuel limit capacity, it lowers intake temps...
Yea, my bad. I ment it increases your octane.
it doesn't do that either..
methanol is sprayed into the intake side of your system allowing for cooler intake temps....
It gives you the equivalent of higher octane gas. Quoted from AIS.
As previously mentioned already, water methanol injection has become a tried-and-true proven way for users to effectively increase their 87-93 octane pump gas. Depending on the amount injected and the type of mix used (pure water, pure methanol or a mix of the two), gains up to 10-25+ points in octane can be achieved. Thus making 91 octane pump gas act like 105-116 octane racing fuel in their engines.
Posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep (Member # 5888) on
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ma boy puttin together a blown 306 and now it's fuel system Time any ideas???? For example should he run a in-tank or external pump if either what brands?
stock lines..
this pump
http://aeromotiveinc.com/2011/05/340-stealth/
42 lb injectors and matching PMAS MAF
The 340 sleath is a good pump. I did some research on it, people were saying it will pump to much flow for stock lines to handle, but IDK. 255 in tank, 255 in line, #60's, and meth on stock lines and rails is what I'll be using. Stock lines and rails are good up to 600rwhp with enough pump ahead, some even make more. The meth also adds to your fuel limits capacity.
Fyi..meth doesn't add to your fuel limit capacity, it lowers intake temps...
Yea, my bad. I ment it increases your octane.
it doesn't do that either..
methanol is sprayed into the intake side of your system allowing for cooler intake temps....
It gives you the equivalent of higher octane gas. Quoted from AIS.
As previously mentioned already, water methanol injection has become a tried-and-true proven way for users to effectively increase their 87-93 octane pump gas. Depending on the amount injected and the type of mix used (pure water, pure methanol or a mix of the two), gains up to 10-25+ points in octane can be achieved. Thus making 91 octane pump gas act like 105-116 octane racing fuel in their engines.
ACT like..not increase....
also , please quote the whole thing
" This is after evaluating maximum allowable total timing advance and maximum attainable boost levels with out detonation or pre-ignition."
IT DOES NOT INCREASE GASOLINE OCTANE...
IT ACTS LIKE AN HIGHER OCTANE BY ALLOWING THE ADDITION OF TIMING to produce more power...
[ June 26, 2011, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: C6Z06s_own_50Deep ]
Posted by Nasty Notch (Member # 8863) on
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Ok well skip the meth talk and and aero prove talk cuz he's not running either as of now he has the rails and a boost friendly stand alone fuel regulator so off he does a 255 intank and a 255 in line should he still run the fmu ???
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Ok well skip the meth talk and and aero prove talk cuz he's not running either as of now he has the rails and a boost friendly stand alone fuel regulator so off he does a 255 intank and a 255 in line should he still run the fmu ???
meth is a low buck option but whateva Ill skip the talk......
oh and you said he has a "boost friendly stand alone fuel regulator..." does he still run the FMU...
NO
Because what you meant was a boost referenced regulator so you are going to get your pressure spike from that.
Add the FMU and it will be pig rich from spiking twice.
Dan
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on
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Water meth kit 50/50 mix does improve fuel octane..period. when activated of course.
Water meth kit does rich'n your car about 1/2 point AFR. period
I ran one on my 91 mustang(for years) before anybody around here did and it is a awesome kit.
All the research on water meth was done by the Military, it is also still available on line. You should read it good stuff. that's what I did before I purchased mine that way you don't have to weed through all the miss info out there..good luck
Posted by Nasty Notch (Member # 8863) on
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Again letsskip the meth talk of make a separate thread bout the ups and downs of meth.. So back to what I was Asking so will a 255 intank and also a 255 inline be enough wit aero price rails & reg wit 42lb injectors
Posted by 79 cobra (Member # 10137) on
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yes it will work but will be pushin it after 470 rwhp should upgrade to 60lb injectors/ 6-an return line 8-an feed line/ the new aermotive fuel pump and will be a monster intill 550-600 rwhp and eliminate the 255 inline pump
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on
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No sweat nasty notch melt your shit any way you want....
Posted by Glenn671 (Member # 964) on
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Originally posted by Nasty Notch:
Again letsskip the meth talk of make a separate thread bout the ups and downs of meth.. So back to what I was Asking so will a 255 intank and also a 255 inline be enough wit aero price rails & reg wit 42lb injectors
yes this will work, it's what I run, and no fuel issues. I don't think you really need the 255 inline though. FMU is for the stock fuel set up.
Posted by Nasty Notch (Member # 8863) on
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I'm not tryin to complain it's jus hard for some people to get a clear answer when the thread gets jacked and filled wit quotes and a whole bunch of extras all I Wana kno is will a 255 intake work jus by it self or should he also run a in line the motor is a 306 wit a v2 on it stock fuel lines aftermarket rails 42lb injector simple as that everybody thanks for the input
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on
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Yes done it for years get the GSS 340 (high pressure) 255. The the low pressure one will not flow enough when your fuel pressure is raised.
Posted by Sonic96GT (Member # 9594) on
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This fuel question has been asked so many times over the net. Just do some research. You will need to upgrade your rails to sn95 5.0 fuel rails, they flow better. Also you won't really know what works until you get a tune. But I'm running 255 in tank 255 in line with stock lines and rails. People have supported up to 550 - 600 rwhp on this set up. Your tuner would tell you if running lean or not. Then make your adjustments from there.
Edit: Also this is with 60 pound injectors. You will be maxing the 42's out around 500rwhp. So you'll need to upgrade to 60's if you want 500-600rwhp.
[ June 29, 2011, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: Sonic96GT ]
Posted by 96mysticman (Member # 8327) on
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get a real pump and move on! fuck that budget bullshit...
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