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I have an 88 5.0 mass air, I have changed the TPS ,IAC and the timing is perfect and there are no vacuum leaks, it idles around 1100 rpm. what can it be??

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do you have a cam in it? my 89gt idled high because of my cam

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Check for error codes first. Next try resetting the idle (search google for the procedure).

Double check for vaccum leaks [Smile]

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i had a similar prob a few years back n it was the mass air meter jut a thought tho [patriot]

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Have u adjusted the throttle screw?

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it does not have a cam, and I did adj the throttel screw?

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quote:
Originally posted by 5.0NPRSUIT:
it does not have a cam, and I did adj the throttel screw?

Check with other plp that have the same cam and see if ther car idles high also then.

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quote:
Originally posted by 5.0NPRSUIT:
it does not have a cam, and I did adj the throttel screw?

since you touched the throttle cable idle screw, you now need to reset the base idle -


Base Idle Reset Procedure

1. Clean TB with carb cleaner and nylon brush (toothbrush size). Engine off, fully open TB blade and spray/brush TB until all gunk and oil residue is cleaned.

2. Allow to dry, or close TB blade and start engine until it clears all carb cleaner fumes/liquid.

3. Let engine idle...if it doesn't, increase idle speed via TB stop screw until engine stays idling on its own.

4. Disconnect IAC valve, if engine dies repeat 3 with IAC disconnected.

5. Set idle speed to the lowest setting possible between 650-850 rpms with IAC disconnected. It is key to use the lowest possible to prevent idle surge, rolling, etc once the IAC is connected as follows.

6. Turn engine off, and reconnect IAC

7. With Ign On Eng Off, check TPS voltage output....if it's between .8vdc - 1.0vdc, it's OK. This voltage check should be done between the Green and Black wires at the TPS side connector as shown in the pic below (FYI: Green = TPS Signal, Black = SIGRTN, and Orange = VREF)....(-) terminal of the DVOM on the Black wire and (+) terminal on the Green wire.


8. Disconnect battery (-) for 3-4 minutes.

9. Reconnect battery, start engine, allow it to idle for 2-4 minutes to confirm setup,

10. If idle speed falls too low or stalls, increase idle speed via the TB set screw a little at a time.

11. Turn engine off for 20 seconds, re-start engine and repeat 9 - 11 if required.

12. Reconfirm TPS output is within the .8vdc - 1.0vdc range optimum range.

NOTES:

1. No need to reset ECM KAM (reset computer), the TPS minimum value used for idle control, is reset automatically by the EEC-IV every time the ign is cycled on-off for 20 seconds-on.

2. If the TPS output is within 6vdc - 1.1vdc, it's still acceptable, since no TPS failure codes will be generated, and it falls within the EEC-IV .5vdc - 1.19vdc working range.

13. Allow a 10-20 minute "relearning" period under normal driving conditions (drive cycle).....you're done!

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quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0NPRSUIT:
it does not have a cam, and I did adj the throttel screw?

since you touched the throttle cable idle screw, you now need to reset the base idle -


Base Idle Reset Procedure

1. Clean TB with carb cleaner and nylon brush (toothbrush size). Engine off, fully open TB blade and spray/brush TB until all gunk and oil residue is cleaned.

2. Allow to dry, or close TB blade and start engine until it clears all carb cleaner fumes/liquid.

3. Let engine idle...if it doesn't, increase idle speed via TB stop screw until engine stays idling on its own.

4. Disconnect IAC valve, if engine dies repeat 3 with IAC disconnected.

5. Set idle speed to the lowest setting possible between 650-850 rpms with IAC disconnected. It is key to use the lowest possible to prevent idle surge, rolling, etc once the IAC is connected as follows.

6. Turn engine off, and reconnect IAC

7. With Ign On Eng Off, check TPS voltage output....if it's between .8vdc - 1.0vdc, it's OK. This voltage check should be done between the Green and Black wires at the TPS side connector as shown in the pic below (FYI: Green = TPS Signal, Black = SIGRTN, and Orange = VREF)....(-) terminal of the DVOM on the Black wire and (+) terminal on the Green wire.


8. Disconnect battery (-) for 3-4 minutes.

9. Reconnect battery, start engine, allow it to idle for 2-4 minutes to confirm setup,

10. If idle speed falls too low or stalls, increase idle speed via the TB set screw a little at a time.

11. Turn engine off for 20 seconds, re-start engine and repeat 9 - 11 if required.

12. Reconfirm TPS output is within the .8vdc - 1.0vdc range optimum range.

NOTES:

1. No need to reset ECM KAM (reset computer), the TPS minimum value used for idle control, is reset automatically by the EEC-IV every time the ign is cycled on-off for 20 seconds-on.

2. If the TPS output is within 6vdc - 1.1vdc, it's still acceptable, since no TPS failure codes will be generated, and it falls within the EEC-IV .5vdc - 1.19vdc working range.

13. Allow a 10-20 minute "relearning" period under normal driving conditions (drive cycle).....you're done!

You sould write a book [patriot] lol,that was the most detailed answer i have ever heard.

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10/29/87-10/9/10
1984 SVO 302 HCI a basic bitch
1986 GT FOXY302 stolen and totaled R.I.P.

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lol yea thanks

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