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89 306
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i recently changed the head gaskets on my car and i changed every gasket from the heads up..
my problem is that i changed the wires and cap/rotor except the plugs cuz they were only about 2 days old...i start my car and the wires are grounding out with the head..so i got some new ones gaped them to .45 and its still the same causing my car to run lik a p.o.s!! what the hell can be causin this.... need ideas and sugggestions asap since this is my daily drver and need it for work...i appreciate the help
[ September 17, 2009, 11:42 PM: Message edited by: 89 306 ]
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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ANYONE????!!!!!!
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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Camara90
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what do you mean grounding out to the head? Dis you use Anti Seize? If you did it could have got on the electrodes and can cause issues.
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Posts: 2351 | From: 707 | Registered: Jan 2001
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89 306
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all the wires are sparking from what looks to be the tip of the wire to the plug or head not sure withch one but its causing my car to run very rough..this is the second time it happens and i dont know whats causin it..but i did use that antisieze stuff but i made sure to only put it on the thread part..
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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wilit
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Do you have headers? Sounds like the boots are melting causing the arcing from the wire to the closest ground.
If that's the case, you can buy some boot protectors to keep them from melting.
http://www.kingsbornewires.com/category.sc?categoryId=100
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Posts: 4793 | From: 37.78514° North 122.40100° West | Registered: Oct 2003
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89 306
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yea i have bbk headers..this hasnt happenend bfor tho thats why it seems odd to me
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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usually when your wires start arcing out you need to change the wires because it will keep doing it , most of the time it happens because they get burnt by the headers other times they et oil on them and it slowly degrades until it sparks out. you could see if the boot protectors work but i would buy new wires and boot protectors. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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89 306
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they are new wires and plugs msd cap and rotor all new!!!
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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forgot to mention this is the second time this happens!!
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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89foxstang
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the plug wires dont look burnt or crispy at all? the spark plug wires can get toasted in a matter of minutes if they arent protected or routed properly.
Posts: 825 | From: Davis | Registered: Aug 2005
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89 306
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nop i checked everysingle one not burnt cracked or oily i dont know what it is
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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and the boots are arcing to the head? have you tried some dielectric grease on the top of the spark plug to get the resistance down? its a long shot but im surprised thats whats happening without any burnt or cracked boots
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You could have the metal clip that connects the wire to the plug pushed too far one way or the other allowing it to arc. Make sure that all metal is well inside the boot. The spark is following the path of least resistance and its seeing the headers as a better place to go than the end of the plug so its gotta be a wire problem.
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Posts: 6069 | From: Rocklin, Ca | Registered: Oct 2004
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89 306
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ill check them even tho they are brand new..i had the ford racing wires with new plugs and it did the same.. any other ideas u guys have????
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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how does the engine ground look?
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are you sure u got the rite firing order???
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SteveL
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quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
how does the engine ground look?
I would try running a jumper cable from the negative side of the battery to some bracket attached to the heads and see if the arcing goes away.
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quote:
Originally posted by SteveL:
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Originally posted by Blind:
how does the engine ground look?
I would try running a jumper cable from the negative side of the battery to some bracket attached to the heads and see if the arcing goes away.
That's a good idea, I didn't think of a grounding issue.
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89 306
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i will try that..the engine is missin the ground from the firewall to the head on the lft side .....but its wierd cuz i had the car for two years and none of this was a ptoblem
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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Originally posted by Blind:
how does the engine ground look?
thats what i was going to say sounds like the car is looking for ground is the ground hooked to the back of the head is the batt ground hooked to the body?
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Posts: 9483 | From: Sacramento Ca | Registered: Jan 2006
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89 306
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its missing that ground...wat wire do i use for ground??.. lik the bttery cable or any anything
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Originally posted by 89 306:
its missing that ground...wat wire do i use for ground??.. lik the bttery cable or any anything
go to kragen/etc and pick up some battery cables that have bolt holes on the ends, then ground from -
-battery to swaybar mounting bolt on drivers side subframe
-same swaybar bolt to engine, either use a bolt off the p/s, a/c, or an empty bolt hole in the front of the drivers side head
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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89 306
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i did that and its still running a lil rough..i dont know what the heel is wrong with it but at this point im ready to give up on the whole car..any wana buy it?
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Posts: 1268 | From: richmond | Registered: Mar 2009
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I see your using Edelbrock heads are you using the longer plugs because I didn't and couldn't figure it out why it ran like shit. Then I read that you need the longer plugs because the stock type don't go in enough.
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Posts: 521 | From: Richmond | Registered: Jun 2009
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89 306
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i used the the same ones it had on the but new ones...didnt have a problem before
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89 lx: 306. edelbrock. heads..ported gt 40 manifolds..and all that other good stuff.
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