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Posted by 66coupe (Member # 8549) on :
 
hey guys so my friends dad is willing to sell me a good running 460 really cheap. but im not sure if it will clear my engine bay with the shock towers.... how much is a mustang 2 conversion? or would i need one?

[ April 30, 2009, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: 66coupe ]
 
Posted by whitelx91 (Member # 8317) on :
 
i wanna see pics!
 
Posted by 66coupe (Member # 8549) on :
 
well just fund out it wont fit unless i cut the shocktowers. and i dont have 1000 bucks to get a mustang 2 front suspension so... i guess im gonna look for a 5.0 motor or something
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
not worth the trouble IMO. That thing is too heavy!

A good combo for your car would be a 351 based stroker. Should fit with a bit of modification.
 
Posted by 68gtscode (Member # 8679) on :
 
385 series big blocks fit nicely in 67 up cars, but I believe the shock towers on 66 and earlier cars are narrower. Here's a link to a swap kit w/ some decent pictures of a 67 up. Good luck,

Matt

http://www.mpgheads.com/Header/MotorMt.htm
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
not worth the trouble IMO. That thing is too heavy!

A good combo for your car would be a 351 based stroker. Should fit with a bit of modification.
 
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
ur gonna need a 6" cowl hood.
 
Posted by 66coupe (Member # 8549) on :
 
ya im going to drop the oil pan on my 289 and see if the cranks ok and if i can switch the bearings cause i got rod knock. but im debating whether to buy a 5.0 roller motor if the motors bad or a beater. i dont have alot of money and ill only be here for about 3 more months cause im going in the navy
 
Posted by 68gtscode (Member # 8679) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66coupe:
ya im going to drop the oil pan on my 289 and see if the cranks ok and if i can switch the bearings cause i got rod knock. but im debating whether to buy a 5.0 roller motor if the motors bad or a beater. i dont have alot of money and ill only be here for about 3 more months cause im going in the navy
If it's only for 3 months I wouldn't do either... ride the bus if you have to!

Matt
 
Posted by F.or O.nly R.eal D.rivers (Member # 8971) on :
 
You can make a 302 do the samething that 460 will do,without all that weight on the front
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
460 wont be even close. nice 302 will be perfect. 351w's with the shock towers kinda suck changing spark plugs and getting headers on. mustang II suspension is at least 2000 unless you know sombody.
 
Posted by KeithStang7 (Member # 1945) on :
 
My uncle and I put a 460 in a 69 Mach1. We had to cut the towers to get it to fit. I think we took the front springs from an old lincoln just to get the front end to stay up. I was in high school at the time so it's been some time ago. We had some cooling issues during the hot months. It was a very heavy front end car. But you can't beat the sound of a true big block. You would be better off stroking a 351w. Less hassle, less cooling issues, more parts in the aftermarket world. Good Luck [patriot]
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by F.or O.nly R.eal D.rivers:
You can make a 302 do the samething that 460 will do,without all that weight on the front
not really but a 302 will do the job doesnt sound like he is tryin to build a race car a roller 302 bcam headers and intake that 66 will run good
 
Posted by 66coupe (Member # 8549) on :
 
would a 351 cleveland fit in my car? i can get a really good deal for it from my friend
 
Posted by crazyhorse (Member # 5662) on :
 
the only way to fit a cleveland would be by modifying or removing your shock towers.
 
Posted by 66coupe (Member # 8549) on :
 
i heard on allfordmustangs that it does fit, without modification... and several people said that so idk [Confused] hers the link

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/classic-tech/76441-351-cleveland-into-1965-coupe-questions.html#post1522304

has anyone done the actual swap or knows someone?
 
Posted by Bigjerry916 (Member # 8787) on :
 
i had a 65 with a 351c in it for a lil bit and the shock towers wrent hacked just a tight squeeze.
 
Posted by crazyhorse (Member # 5662) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66coupe:
i heard on allfordmustangs that it does fit, without modification... and several people said that so idk [Confused] hers the link

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/classic-tech/76441-351-cleveland-into-1965-coupe-questions.html#post1522304

has anyone done the actual swap or knows someone?
the guy who said that it fits said if a fits probly thinks the windsor and cleveland are the same size. The Cleveland is like 2 inches wider than the windsor. I had to pass on a cheap cleveland block because of that. not to mention the parts are easier to find for 302's and 351w's
 
Posted by 66coupe (Member # 8549) on :
 
so it fit fine? just a little tight right? and how did u think about the setup?
the one my friends selling is based off a 351 but is a 400. so since i dont think ford made a 400 windsor and they did make a 400 cleveland im pretty sure its a cleveland.
 
Posted by 66coupe (Member # 8549) on :
 
ya i just wish i could find a 351 windsor or a roller 5.0 motor complete. but i know two peple who are selling a complete good running 351 cleveland motor so idk what to do. i leave in 2 and a half months but i need a car until them.
 
Posted by 68gtscode (Member # 8679) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66coupe:
so it fit fine? just a little tight right? and how did u think about the setup?
the one my friends selling is based off a 351 but is a 400. so since i dont think ford made a 400 windsor and they did make a 400 cleveland im pretty sure its a cleveland.
The 400 is actually a "400M" which I believe stands for "Modified." It shared some similarities with the Cleveland, but I don't think they are very good for high performance use. I do remember seeing years ago a company was making adapter plates so you could bolt on 351C intake manifolds to these things. I guess the threory is/was you could get a set of 351C 4V heads and be able to run a performance manifold. Again though, I really don't think many people try to build these things for high performance use.

As one of the previous posts stated, you'd be better off with a 351W because of the aftermarket popularity.

Matt
 




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