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Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
I went and bought one of these today… the guy at the store said they are great subs and they were on sale for 200 a piece so I couldn’t resist.

Anybody ever heard of them??? I have never in my life heard of this company haha. But they seem legit. Based in modesto from what I understand

http://www.zapco.com/prod/Speakers/i-Force/i-12D_Frame.htm

I also bought a pretty nice 500w amp…


The question I have is with the specs of this sub in mind… If I eventually wanted to throw another 12 in there would I need a new amp?? The guy who sold me the stuff said I wouldn’t but I don’t see how a 500w amp can handle two 300w subs…

Maybe I am missing something… any thoughts?

This is the amp I bought.

http://www.drdetailshop.com/co500.1.htm


What do you guys think?
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
me i would return all that shit you have to look at rms thats what matters your subs are only 200w rms the amp 250rms on the subs you paid for the name zapco makes great amps for the same price i would have got some alpine type r they slap and are bout 750ish rms and a good brand i would return it depending on how loud you wanna be in my notch i run 2 12inch cvx kicker 800w rms 1500 max pushed by hifonics 2000 watt rms on highs i have another hifonics on six 6 by 9s two tweets and 2 door speakers
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlTudSowX9c&feature=related check em out
 
Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
So you think I should get a different sub for this amp?


... one with more output??
 
Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aj5.0916:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlTudSowX9c&feature=related check em out
Are you serious? How am I supposed to compare sounds of different setups other than actually hearing them?
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
i think you should return it all and get new subs and a new amp im not sayin compair wit out hearin them im just sayin based on specs 200w rms come on thats nothin they wont really do to much
 
Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aj5.0916:
i think you should return it all and get new subs and a new amp im not sayin compair wit out hearin them im just sayin based on specs 200w rms come on thats nothin they wont really do to much
This is true....


Maybe a new amp that puts out somewhere around 1,000 then a sub that puts out something like 5-800??

If I were to run that much juice to a sub, plus the two amps currently in there (for the rest of the speakers... it's a mach 460) would I have charging issues?? I wouldn't think so... but I don't know.
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
assuming your running your amps in the trunk or behind the seat put another batt in the trunk get a neg batt cabel bolt it in the trunk other end to neg terminal your hot+ wire from the front to the pos on the second batt then run a short hot wire to your amps if your still worried then put a in line isolator this allows alternator to charge both but your rear batt wont take away from your startin batt
 
Posted by AzulAzul03 (Member # 7506) on :
 
Get some square L7 Kickers with matching amp and call it a day!
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
or cvx thats what i got now had L5s in my hatch they was pretty good but the rubber around them would come loose gotta take the rim off and reglue it
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ele/1059063422.html perfect or get em new
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ele/1059063422.html perfect or get em new or these wit the perfect amp http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ele/1058745869.html

[ March 04, 2009, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: aj5.0916 ]
 
Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
"barely broken in and run at half power. dvc 4ohm"

What does he mean they run at half power?
 
Posted by NOTCH-FOX (Member # 8636) on :
 
pretty much he jus ran them at rms wattage, about half the wattage of the max rated wattage of the sub. all new sub needs to be broken in so the coils can sit well inside the sub. so light bass for 20-30 hours.
 
Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aj5.0916:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ele/1059063422.html perfect or get em new or these wit the perfect amp http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ele/1058745869.html
Just called the guy...


Done deal. Thanks for the find buddy I appreciate it.


So I won't need like a new alternator or something with this setup right?
 
Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NOTCH-FOX:
pretty much he jus ran them at rms wattage, about half the wattage of the max rated wattage of the sub. all new sub needs to be broken in so the coils can sit well inside the sub. so light bass for 20-30 hours.
gotcha... thanks
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
he ran them at 4ohm means he is not pushing them all the way 2ohm is all way meaning bridging the subs you can also bridge a amp makes it slap harder bridgin is easy makes it slap louder
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
you can run your amp to 1ohm but gotta make sure its 1ohm stable
 
Posted by NOTCH-FOX (Member # 8636) on :
 
maybe a battery cap, if u have a fox u should upgrade alternator.
 
Posted by NOTCH-FOX (Member # 8636) on :
 
maybe a battery cap, if u have a fox u should upgrade alternator.
 
Posted by Cobraboy (Member # 7826) on :
 
Nah it's a 98 cobra... so will I be ok as far as charge issues go??

A buddy of mine had a similar setup... 2 type R's with a 1000w amp and had no apparent issues. I think I will be fine but I want to make sure... really don't feel like replacing my new alternator....
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
i would do a extra batt chack it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ckuc2dfVV4&feature=related /////////http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yagui6O38TA&feature=related
 
Posted by fastertoys1 (Member # 5270) on :
 
invest in dynomat it will completly change the sound of rveryhing. It's not cheap though.
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
yup no problem
 
Posted by FORDMAN_510 (Member # 8725) on :
 
I work at street beat in hayward and we carry that amp but the subs are just junkand get a better amp if ur close come to us in hayward
 




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