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ROK5.0
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So in a couple of weeks I'm going to be buying some heads for my Ford & I boiled it down to 2 choices the trickflow twisted wedge or the AFR 185 so if any of you could supply all opinions & information to help me make my choice it wold greatly be apreciated.
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92stangLX
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What motor is it going on? What are your goals for HP, smog, drivability, price, etc?
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The afr 165s are comparable to the out of the box twisted wedge heads. The 185s will flow better, but it may be too big for your application if you have a stockish motor. If I am not mistaken the 185s will require the pistons to be notched on most stock piston combos. TFS has better heads too (their CNC jobs)so the choices are endless.
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ROK5.0
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looking for at least 300 hp to the ground...has to pass smog...price doesn't matter...its going on a 302...will be a daily drive for a little while
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5LiterSpeeder
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TrickFlows are problem free, just bolt down and haul some ass!One of my cars has them along with an F cam and a TFS-R intake and it put down 292RWHP and 300RWTQ. +1 for Trick Flow ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif) ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
[ February 19, 2009, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: 5LiterSpeeder ]
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Originally posted by ROK5.0:
looking for at least 300 hp to the ground...has to pass smog...price doesn't matter...its going on a 302...will be a daily drive for a little while
then go Trick Flow!
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Pure Stang
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AFR 185's ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) .. epik has edel 2.02 intake valves with a ecam making 300rwhp
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ROK5.0
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TFS 3 & AFR 1...plz more opinions & information
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92stangLX
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Here are a couple of options
Twisted Wedge heads, TFS stage 1 cam, and a TFS Street Heat intake
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AFR 165 heads, custom cam, Edelbrock Performer intake.
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ROK5.0
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I have a F303 cam that I'm going to use & I was thinking of going with the gt40 intake
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i had a set of tric flows on my chevy and they ran good but when i tore them a part had 4 broken valve springs just my experiace dont like the springs they use
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92stangLX
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Originally posted by ROK5.0:
I have a F303 cam that I'm going to use & I was thinking of going with the gt40 intake
GT40 intake will work great. My recommendation is to port the lower and the TB opening for some extra flow. In that case AFR165's or TFS heads will work great.
TFS is a great bang for the buck IMO
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ROK5.0
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so far I gather that the AFR's flow a lil bit bettr but the TFS are lil bit less expensive...has anyone had or heard of any problems as far as mechanically or installment wise with a 302?
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2SIK GT
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my buddy had afr a 185 setup on his 351 and i had a a set of twisted wedge on my 302...... we both had full bolt on........ his car didnt even see mine... TFS makes good heads and thier cnc work is sick....my friend had bad experiances with the AFR's ....maybe its just his heads but both heads i think are good.... i RUN trickflow on my stroker and it rips .....
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HaulinAss Motorsports
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My car put down over 400rwhp with a set of TFS TW heads, and that was N/A. Should be high 5xx or better on N20
I havent had a good experiance with last few sets of AFR heads Ive delt with
And as always the good ole reliable Edelbrock Heads/Intake combo will always make good power with a good cam the right bolt ons. 300rwhp is easily obtainable with this combo, and you can find Edelbrock stuff for decent prices!
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My AFR 165 combo makes 321rwhp/339rwtq. It's a 302 with a custom cam and performer intake.
AFR's do have their issues though. The springs they come with are crap and the threaded holes are a little weak. I had mine heli-coiled.
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ROK5.0
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ok seems unanimous to me that TFS is the better choice so that's what Im going with...but which one's should I gwt to go on my 302 that will pass smog
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2SIK GT
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the regular twisted wedge not track heat or r series heads
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Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:
My car put down over 400rwhp with a set of TFS TW heads, and that was N/A. Should be high 5xx or better on N20
I havent had a good experiance with last few sets of AFR heads Ive delt with
And as always the good ole reliable Edelbrock Heads/Intake combo will always make good power with a good cam the right bolt ons. 300rwhp is easily obtainable with this combo, and you can find Edelbrock stuff for decent prices!
what was your set up that made over 400hp with tfs heads?
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5LiterSpeeder
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Originally posted by 87droptop50:
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Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:
My car put down over 400rwhp with a set of TFS TW heads, and that was N/A. Should be high 5xx or better on N20
I havent had a good experiance with last few sets of AFR heads Ive delt with
And as always the good ole reliable Edelbrock Heads/Intake combo will always make good power with a good cam the right bolt ons. 300rwhp is easily obtainable with this combo, and you can find Edelbrock stuff for decent prices!
what was your set up that made over 400hp with tfs heads?
X 2? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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HaulinAss Motorsports
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Originally posted by 87droptop50:
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Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:
My car put down over 400rwhp with a set of TFS TW heads, and that was N/A. Should be high 5xx or better on N20
I havent had a good experiance with last few sets of AFR heads Ive delt with
And as always the good ole reliable Edelbrock Heads/Intake combo will always make good power with a good cam the right bolt ons. 300rwhp is easily obtainable with this combo, and you can find Edelbrock stuff for decent prices!
what was your set up that made over 400hp with tfs heads?
Oh I cant give out all the secrets ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) But Ill tell you this, they are not R Heads or Hi-Ports
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Was that a stock bottom end?
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5LiterSpeeder
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Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:
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Originally posted by 87droptop50:
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Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:
My car put down over 400rwhp with a set of TFS TW heads, and that was N/A. Should be high 5xx or better on N20
I havent had a good experiance with last few sets of AFR heads Ive delt with
And as always the good ole reliable Edelbrock Heads/Intake combo will always make good power with a good cam the right bolt ons. 300rwhp is easily obtainable with this combo, and you can find Edelbrock stuff for decent prices!
what was your set up that made over 400hp with tfs heads?
Oh I cant give out all the secrets But Ill tell you this, they are not R Heads or Hi-Ports
Kinda hard to believe these numbers if they weren't coming from a stroker motor. ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif)
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Ive seen plenty of twisted wedge combos............in my rear view. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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