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Started up my 98' cobra on saturday and noticed white smoke coming out. About 5 min driving thereafter, my check engine light came on. code says bank 2 running lean. white smoke comes out at start up and a little bit while driving...i'm going to change my sensor tomorrow (I'm pretty sure bank 2 is driver side sensor, right?)BUT THE QUESTION IS: IS THIS WHATS CAUSING WHITE TO COME OUT??

[ September 12, 2008, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: exchp6400 ]

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not exactly sure about the smoke...maybe oil?
but if u have 1 faulty o2 then u might as well change em all so u wont have to worry about em later

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bank 2 running lean is more than likely a vacuum leak, or other mechanical problem.

if you want to check that it's an o2 sensor, swap the front 2 sensors and the error code would follow the bad o2 if that was the case...

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Originally posted by Blind:
bank 2 running lean is more than likely a vacuum leak, or other mechanical problem.

if you want to check that it's an o2 sensor, swap the front 2 sensors and the error code would follow the bad o2 if that was the case...

thanks, will try that today

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White smoke only at startup huh? You sure it's not coming out while you are driving it too and just not noticing it?

I would monitor your coolant levels closely just to be safe.

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Originally posted by Cobraboy:
White smoke only at startup huh? You sure it's not coming out while you are driving it too and just not noticing it?

I would monitor your coolant levels closely just to be safe.

didn't notice smoke until my bro followed me the other day while driving [Eek!] . Coolant levels are normal though and don't see anything in the resevoir.

[ September 09, 2008, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: exchp6400 ]

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Pull your plugs and see if there is any oil on the threads. That happened on my 96 Cobra when one of the spark plug tube seals went bad. The smoke went away when I replaced the seal.
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Pull your plugs and see if there is any oil on the threads. That happened on my 96 Cobra when one of the spark plug tube seals went bad. The smoke went away when I replaced the seal.

Did the check engine light come on you what that happened?

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get a scanner and scan the car, sometimes on an OBD 2 car, the ECU stores codes but doesnt trigger the CEL
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Pull your plugs and see if there is any oil on the threads. That happened on my 96 Cobra when one of the spark plug tube seals went bad. The smoke went away when I replaced the seal.

Changed out plugs, #7 was pretty messed up but problem still there. i'm gonna try replacing coil pack. I performed a comp. test and all cylinders were normal.

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quote:
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Originally posted by venommS:
Pull your plugs and see if there is any oil on the threads. That happened on my 96 Cobra when one of the spark plug tube seals went bad. The smoke went away when I replaced the seal.

Changed out plugs, #7 was pretty messed up but problem still there. i'm gonna try replacing coil pack. I performed a comp. test and all cylinders were normal.
What was the gapping on them?
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Originally posted by Cobraboy:
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Originally posted by exchp6400:
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Originally posted by venommS:
Pull your plugs and see if there is any oil on the threads. That happened on my 96 Cobra when one of the spark plug tube seals went bad. The smoke went away when I replaced the seal.

Changed out plugs, #7 was pretty messed up but problem still there. i'm gonna try replacing coil pack. I performed a comp. test and all cylinders were normal.
What was the gapping on them?
damn...i completely forgot to note that. Threw em away

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bank 2 is passenger side.

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my car did the same thing now it just does it at high rpms or when i shift gears actually dont know why though i changed coils and plugs still the same

[ September 10, 2008, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: 96mysticman ]

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This problem isn't goin away. I'm out of ideas...gonna take it to my local mechanic.
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ok here's an update...........

)compression good on all cylinders
)changed out spark plugs
)tested coils, they are fine
)***checked fuel press. seems to fall from 50 psi to 23-27 after about 10-15 min at idle. any ideas?...injector prob.?????

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head gasket?ima check with john aka warhorse58gt hell probably know or have an idea [patriot]
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Originally posted by 96mysticman:
head gasket?ima check with john aka warhorse58gt hell probably know or have an idea [patriot]

i'm pretty sure its a fuel problem. I can smell it in the oil.

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quote:
Originally posted by exchp6400:
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Originally posted by 96mysticman:
head gasket?ima check with john aka warhorse58gt hell probably know or have an idea [patriot]

i'm pretty sure its a fuel problem. I can smell it in the oil.
if you have a vacuum leak like I mentioned up above you will misfire because it is so lean and the fuel that is in there doesn't get burned up so you'll have tons of unburned fuel, causing more misfires...etc.

I recently fixed a similar issue on my 4v and it was due to the EGR gasket.

take a smoke maker or a propane torch (unlit of course) and smoke around the vacuum lines and gasket areas at idle, if you find the leak the idle will jump up or you'll see the smoke being sucked in by the vacuum.

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