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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>z pyro</b> <br /><small>Member # 3745</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,9,23,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I bought an engine off someone, took it apart and discovered that it had a blown headgasket, and had been sitting for some time. some of the cylinders have rust on the walls, as well as all kinds of gunk. I sprayed them down with WD40 to soak til tomorrow. My question is, if I took it to a shop and had it bored .030 over, do you think it would take care of the rust? it's not just a light surface rust like on bare metal just sitting out..of course I wouldn't know for sure without an actual machinist looking at it, but I just want to know if the cylinder walls can be saved or if I should go whoop some ass cuz I was told the engine was running when it was pulled <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>89nitrous stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 8352</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,1,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> it probly can be fixed but you should ask for the money to fix it or kick some ass <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>z pyro</b> <br /><small>Member # 3745</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,1,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I was going to overbore it anyways so if it works then oh well. but if it doesn't work, then I spent $250 on a big ugly paperweight and THEN we have problems <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>z pyro</b> <br /><small>Member # 3745</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,1,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <a href="http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9513largenu8.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3968/img9513largenu8.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a><br /><a href="http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9512largezb5.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/571/img9512largezb5.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a><br /><a href="http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9511largejk7.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/584/img9511largejk7.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a><br /><a href="http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9510largeyw4.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5927/img9510largeyw4.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a><br /><a href="http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9509largeih6.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8940/img9509largeih6.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a><br /><a href="http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9516largeoq6.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3318/img9516largeoq6.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a><br /><a href="http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9515largerx1.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/562/img9515largerx1.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a><br /><a href="http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img9514largeab2.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4082/img9514largeab2.th.jpg" alt=" - " /></a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Blind</b> <br /><small>Member # 3052</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,2,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> soak the crap out of it with pb blaster, brake cleaner, wd-40, and rotate it a few time, see how it cleans up. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>z pyro</b> <br /><small>Member # 3745</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,14,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> what size is the bolt keeping the balancer on the crank? I don't have a socket big enough so I've gotta go buy one. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>street_illegal_stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 1554</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,14,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> cheap fix would be disassemble it while taking note where everything goes back on,wd-40 the hell out of it then ball hone it out bout 20 times. should work okay.<br />depending on if theres major pitting in the cylinder walls..you can check by using scotch brite with wd-40 . otherwise save up for a cheap<br />.030 rebuild.<br /><br />I think the bolt is 30/31" or slightly smaller.<br />i remember being able to pull it off w/ a old worn 30/31" socket. Im not 100% on the exact size <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>z pyro</b> <br /><small>Member # 3745</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,15,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> no need to save, I've got a few grand from my bike accident settlement <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> I was going to get a rebuild kit from Summit, pistons, rings, bearings etc. not gonna be making a ton of power cuz I gotta put some $ into the rest of the car, but im thinkin 300-350 would be decent and easily made...once I'm able to get it all taken apart I'm gonna take the block to be hot tanked and bored/honed, probably get the crank turned too cuz the bearings are fucked too...some major scoring and gouges on some of them <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>z pyro</b> <br /><small>Member # 3745</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,10,23,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Well I got it down to the block. Finally got the pistons out, and hit it with a hone. the stones made the walls smoother, but theres still a little bit of roughness. it seems (in my ignorant view) it should be able to be taken care of with an overbore. I checked with a micrometer and the bore are the stock 4". I'll take the block and crank to the shop probably monday to get bored n turned.<br /><br />anyone have a ballpark on how much machine work will be? I'm getting the block bored n honed, crank main and rod journals turned probably .010 over, cam bearings and freeze plugs replaced. oh and I want to hot tank the block as well. also, how much does milling the block usually run? to get the head mating surface flat, as well as bump up CR a tiny bit. if I get a new set of pistons, does the rotating assembly have to be balanced? can I replace the pistons with the nasty paperweights that are currently on the rods, or should I get the shop to do it? should I get the rod bolts replaced with ARP bolts, as I've seen done before? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>z pyro</b> <br /><small>Member # 3745</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,11,16,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> anyone?<br /><br />more questions...I'm probably going to get an edelbrock 1406 carb, and weiand action+ intake when I get the engine done. I'll also probably find some cheap heads, if I can't find any in my price range I'll have to stick with stockers. I'm going to need a new cam cuz the stock one has pits on the lobes where the lifters were sitting (need to replace the lifters too). What cam should I get? I don't need or want all-out power, so getting $2000 aluminum heads and a radical cam is unnecessary. I'll have the stock C4 and rear end for now. I just want something a little hotter than stock, and not too expensive since I need to resto the interior of the car as well <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>dpracingdan</b> <br /><small>Member # 5778</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,11,16,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I got block you can have for free. I took it all apart, had it boiled and cleaned out in preparation of building my own, then Ford Racing sponsored me 2 engines. The block has been sitting at the machine shop ever since (2 years?), but should definately be cleaner than yours. <br /> Let me know if you're interested. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>BlowN67</b> <br /><small>Member # 4229</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2008,4,11,19,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> how much u looking to spend o nthis rebuild.. <br /><br /> there has been a couple good 306 notors on the board for under 1k. so figure the amount u think ur going to put into this one an go from there. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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