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I havent figured out what my final displacement is going to be but I'm starting to collect parts for my new build. I have the dart iron eagle on the way. I want this stroked 351 to scream and most important be pump gas able. What I really want is around 550rwhp on motor then a nice shot of jug to help it at the track. This is going to be a carbed monster and j was thinking of maybe highports tfs r's or afr 225. I want to try and stay as streetable as possible maybe a hydro roller in it. If I were to get the highports or the tfs r's they will have a 225-235cc runner completly cnced like the afr. Any input will be nice

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why not run a dart head.

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Check out Fox Lake. They have a state of the art CNC program. Here is the link to their Hight Port TFS

http://www.foxlakeracing.com/tfs.php [patriot]

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i use canfields with a iron eagle 401. i make 623hp and 555tq on pump gas. with a custom nos cam. [patriot]

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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
i use canfields with a iron eagle 401. i make 623hp and 555tq on pump gas. with a custom nos cam. [patriot]

Who did your head cam combo? Did u make that power to the wheels on motor? What intake are u running carb or efi? That sounds like on hell of a combo

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quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
i use canfields with a iron eagle 401. i make 623hp and 555tq on pump gas. with a custom nos cam. [patriot]

Who did your head cam combo? Did u make that power to the wheels on motor? What intake are u running carb or efi? That sounds like on hell of a combo

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fastest Pump gass stroker windsor I know of ran his best times with Dart Pro 1 225 CNC heads.9.77 on the motor with Pump gass. He swaped to TEA high Ports 245 cnc heads spent a ton of cash and didn't run any faster. Most people told him, to swap it would be faster...nope ..Dart Pro 1 225 cnc heads look awsome. The set I have is a work of art hopefully I will be able to give some performance numbers someday lol

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
fastest Pump gass stroker windsor I know of ran his best times with Dart Pro 1 225 CNC heads.9.77 on the motor with Pump gass. He swaped to TEA high Ports 245 cnc heads spent a ton of cash and didn't run any faster. Most people told him, to swap it would be faster...nope ..Dart Pro 1 225 cnc heads look awsome. The set I have is a work of art hopefully I will be able to give some performance numbers someday lol

Very interesting I will consider them also just trying to get the best set I can because I don't want to do it all over lol

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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
i use canfields with a iron eagle 401. i make 623hp and 555tq on pump gas. with a custom nos cam. [patriot]

Who did your head cam combo? Did u make that power to the wheels on motor? What intake are u running carb or efi? That sounds like on hell of a combo
heads/intake were done up at wes king's.
pamella race engines picked the cam. i'm running a 825 race deamon and it's a super vic intake.
hp/tq is at the fly wheel.

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call jay at camshaftinovations.com he does great stuff. I know many guys that have used his stuff and made a ton more power. Let him know that porchstang sent you.
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ever taken a look at any CHI heads?
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I have and haven't really seen anyone else running them. They are about the same price as I will spend on some 225cnc heads

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CHI's are top of the line. There is no 20 degree inline head that can do what they do given similar size. Just a better design.
However, you don't *need* these heads to meet your goals. There are plenty of inline valve heads that'll get the job done nicely.

I'd love to see a set of CHI heads on a big bore stroker. I had a chance to buy a 409 EMC motor that put out 69X HP on pump gas.... I just didn't have a use for it at the time.

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
CHI's are top of the line. There is no 20 degree inline head that can do what they do given similar size. Just a better design.
However, you don't *need* these heads to meet your goals. There are plenty of inline valve heads that'll get the job done nicely.

I'd love to see a set of CHI heads on a big bore stroker. I had a chance to buy a 409 EMC motor that put out 69X HP on pump gas.... I just didn't have a use for it at the time.

Which chi head would you recommend and intake I can grow with them that is always good. They are almost the same is price range wise so why not if I was going to spend a little more but get a lot better head then why not?
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