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i got edlbrock heads with 2.02 valves and summit tells me they wont clear the ctock pistons but then wont tell me what are my options. was wondering if ca ford'rs can held me out. part numbers will help too.

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o yea its a 302 that imma rebuild with e cam and 1.6 rockers. keeping stock rods. anything else you guys need to help me out let me know
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most good aftermarket pistons have big valve reliefs these days. Check out the SRP pistons the are made by J&E and have nice reliefs in them. Check out Mahle , J&E,and Ross.

[ November 02, 2007, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]

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Look for aftermarket pistons with 2 valve reliefs. If they have 4 like factory pistons, they will not clear 2.02 valves.

You're better off NOT reusing the stock rods. They are press-fit pin setups & you will have to pay a machine shop to press out the stock pistons/pins, resize the rods & press in the new pistons/pins. This machine work could end up costing as much as a new set of bushed forged stock-replacement rods (~$299).
Might as well buy new ones & end up with a stronger, full-floating setup.

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full floating rods still need to be pin fit (the factory machining is not acceptible) and its nowhere near 300 dollars to remount rods on new pistons. more in the range of 100-150
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Machining of pins/pistons/rods is such high quality these days You shouldn't have any problems with pins not fitting the rods. I've only had 1 problem in the last 5 years....& it turned out the pins were undersized by .001". Definately noticable when test fitting the pins in the rods.
I've never had to have pins fitted.

If the stock rods need to be resized along with removing the stock pistons/installing the new ones, the cost to use stock rods will be nearly as high as new pieces. & Even if it's 1/2 the cost.....what's $150 these days. 2 tanks of gas in my truck! LOL

FWIW, the casting date on my wife's stock 5.0 Connecting Rods out of her 91 GT was 1964. [Eek!]

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you have been lucky I have had to have 3 out of 4 race motors I built this year pin fit when they were supposed to be good. Some piston issues some pin bushings all after market stuff. All could have been run but they were tighter,and stiffer than we thought safe.

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Pin to bushing clearance is criticle....no doubt about it. We must be getting lucky.....we only use the parts that I know to have worked well together in the past.

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2 stangs highlighted why they need to be pin fit. dont do it and you have the real potential to run into major problems. reconning rods and fitting them doesnt take more than 1.5 hrs, with a labor estimate at 100/hr
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Personally We've been working with ARIAS Pistons and they rock!!! Ill check tomorrow at the shop for what a rough cost is for them. But 93 Pony hit the main point "pin location" no matter what application you are running.
Are u N/A, S/C, NOS or Turbo??
What would ur desired compression height be?

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im going with da go go juice. 100 shot most likely. the the thing is this is my daily driver and im trying to keep it smogable. when that time comes. i was also thinking about having the relief valves redone on the stock pistons to save me some money. what you guys think.
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ttt. read last post from me...
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It has been done many times before and worked ok. As long as your tune is good stock forged pistons are pretty strong.

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2006 Yamaha V-max 1200 Modded

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