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Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
im planning on doing the swap this weekend, edlebrock rpm heads,x-cam,1.6rr, and a cobra maniflod on my stock bottom end. any tips or tricks? and what kind of power gains should i expect?


thanks brandon
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
check your valve to piston clearance, I would think around 80 hp???
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
IM GONNA RETARD THE CAM 6*, OR SHOULD I RUN AN F CAM?
 
Posted by GriggsJ (Member # 6319) on :
 
Do 4* instead of 6.
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
i was reading in another post that they wanted 6* if using longtubes and 4* if using more restrictive exhaust.
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
what is the powerband gonna be like? and is there any way of making arounf 325 at the wheels?

[ October 23, 2007, 05:10 PM: Message edited by: ranger guy ]
 
Posted by Trunkster (Member # 6598) on :
 
Not with that combo.
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
then what do i need?
 
Posted by kingmoochr (Member # 5834) on :
 
victor efi, vic jr or equivalent heads, and a custom cam, and you might hit 325 if you have the cam spec'd for max power.
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
WOULDNT THE VICTOR JR'S BE OVERKILL ON A STOCK BOTTOM END?
 
Posted by kaoticmk2 (Member # 5186) on :
 
Hey Brandon

When you get a Mustang? Hey call me I want to take a look. You know the numer. Mikey
 
Posted by kingmoochr (Member # 5834) on :
 
yes, they would, however, you said you wanted 325 at the wheels with a stock bottom end. the only way to get that is "overkill" the combo and rev the piss out of it
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
ok well what cam would i wanna run? i was told that the x cam wont clear the bottom end with the performer heads,even if the cam is retarded. so what cam should i run?
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
285..some guy dynod his car where my friend works and had that trick flow hci kit, 278rwhp automatic fox.
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
Let me know how it goes. I plan on doing an HCI upgrade once I finshing putting my garage together. I like to hear any tips you have.

Thanks [patriot]
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
anybody?
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Trust me on this.......
Notch your pistons using the Isky tools.

My buddies stock bottom end with AFR185's wouldn't turn over with the stock GT cam & 1.6's.....pistons hit the valves when turning it over by hand. We notched the pistons & threw in a nasty custom profile that ended up putting down 330RWHP.
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
how much and where can i do this?
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
Trust me on this.......
Notch your pistons using the Isky tools.

My buddies stock bottom end with AFR185's wouldn't turn over with the stock GT cam & 1.6's.....pistons hit the valves when turning it over by hand. We notched the pistons & threw in a nasty custom profile that ended up putting down 330RWHP.

Yep Eric had to use the isky tool when I bought My shortblock off of Him to get Mine to work with F cam, 1.6RR, afr185's. I would also rocommend upgrading the AFR valve spring's when using an aftermarket cam as Mine were floating at aroune 5200 RPM's with the stock AFR spring's & it's ALOT easier to change em with the head's off the engine [patriot] . Plus the valve spring's were only around 130 buck's if I remember rite. IF You have the money some titanium keeper's and new lock's would be a smart choice to put on while changing the spring's [Wink] .
 
Posted by ranger guy (Member # 4899) on :
 
well should i just rebuild the shortblock with better pistons with the valve releifs already in them or get rid of the heads and get the smaller ones?
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ranger guy:
well should i just rebuild the shortblock with better pistons with the valve releifs already in them or get rid of the heads and get the smaller ones?

Depends on your budget....
You've got to pay to play.....no matter what.
My own experience..... One of the best daily drivable combo's was when we ran a stock shortblock in the wife's car with H/C/I & notched pistons. Ran HARD, sounded great, & had no real issues.
Rebuilding a 302 can be done on a budget....but add a few extra hundred $$$ & you could have a 347.....add a little more & you could have 400+RWHP, but pretty soon you're looking at a motor that costs more than the car is worth. That's what you'll find in the fastest N/A cars on this site.....expensive bad-ass motors.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
lol I actualy ground the valve reliefs with my di-grinder and a carbide bit on my 302. It lasted along time with no piston problems. I also have a pretty steady hand from 100's of hours of porting work.

[ October 28, 2007, 04:39 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 




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