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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>marvinshields</b> <br /><small>Member # 7764</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,20,15,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i was thinking of buying this 331 shortblock off ebay for 1,500 can any one tell me if this block is any good are no any where i can get a 331 for that price or cheaper the blco is from m&r <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>marvinshields</b> <br /><small>Member # 7764</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,20,15,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> here is the shortblock <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160148110303&rd=1" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160148110303&rd=1</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>turbo50</b> <br /><small>Member # 6700</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,20,15,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Do you have a link?<br /><br />$1500 seems suspiciously cheap for a quality 331 shortblock. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>asskickn88</b> <br /><small>Member # 4957</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,20,23,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> On paper it looks decent but you never know. Its also balanced to 28oz so you'll have to get a new balancer and flywheel if your going to run it in anything newer than an 81 car. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>street_illegal_stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 1554</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,21,1,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> if you going with M&R please keep us posted if the engine runs healty. I've ask them some months ago if they offer any other pistons,and they told me they have probe blower pistons for $1650. nice <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> but who knows if these guys<br />have good assemblers or crapy machining/cut corners ya know? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>88DroptopGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 2535</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,21,2,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I always go by the saying "You get what you pay for" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>turbo50</b> <br /><small>Member # 6700</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,21,2,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> not bad...balanced, forged slugs etc etc. <br /><br />What is the core cost and shipping on that? They can kill your "deal" there. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>jmcclesk</b> <br /><small>Member # 1355</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,21,2,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> shipping to sacramento terminal is 150.00<br /> <br /> <small>[ August 21, 2007, 02:17 AM: Message edited by: jmcclesk ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>marvinshields</b> <br /><small>Member # 7764</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,15,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> its all goin to cost me about 1700 with shipping <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>hidnn.o.s.</b> <br /><small>Member # 1219</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,15,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:<br /><strong> I always go by the saying "You get what you pay for" </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">VERY VERY TRUE <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>turbo50</b> <br /><small>Member # 6700</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,15,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by marvinshields:<br /><strong> its all goin to cost me about 1700 with shipping </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Is that with a 50 oz balance? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>marvinshields</b> <br /><small>Member # 7764</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,16,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> they only have 28 balance <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>turbo50</b> <br /><small>Member # 6700</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,16,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> So then only a two piece rear main seal on them??<br /><br />Is it a roller block?<br /><br /><br />You will need a 28 oz balancer and flywheel, remember. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>marvinshields</b> <br /><small>Member # 7764</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,17,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> yea i dont no nothing about them so i dont no you still got that motor for sale <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>turbo50</b> <br /><small>Member # 6700</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,20,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I dont have any motors for sale, sorry.<br /><br />There are a few people (JohnB, etc) on there that can and will build you a quality shortblock.<br /><br />I don't do side work for anyone on here, anymore.<br /><br />Sorry. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92stangLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3252</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,22,22,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I don't know anything about this motor but I wouldn't do it. Get someone local to build u one. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93PONY</b> <br /><small>Member # 60</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,23,0,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Retail on the Crankshaft is $217<br />Retail on the rods: $225<br />Retail on similar pistons: Under $300<br />Rings & bearings: $175 or less<br /><br />That's $917 retail & I know of kits with 2618 forged pistons that retail for $899. Any way you slice it you're looking at around $900 RETAIL for the rotating assembly.<br />Figure any good machine shop will have much better pricing (at least 20% less) & you're looking at cost of around $700. Add a block & machine work & yes it's very possible that a machine shop can do all the operations listed, balance, & assemble the shortblock & still make a decent profit while keeping the machining/assembly quality high.....even if the parts themselves are 'economy'.<br /><br />From my experience a cast-steel stroker crankshaft & 'SIR' style rods will hold more power than the stock block can handle. The pistons would not be my choice considering the dirt-cheap pricing of Probe's 2618 forgings, but hey...I'm sure they'll still much stronger than the stock 302 slugs which have been known to handle well over 500hp.<br /><br />Honestly, it's a damn good price. I know I wouldn't buy one....but I'm an engine builder & if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna spend a little more $$$ & do it right. However, I see no reason why this motor can not handle 450+HP if the machining/assembly was done correctly. In the end the rotating assembly can handle more Power than the block.<br /><br />Personally I'd go for a 347. Same price as a 331 & you can't go wrong with more cubes IMO. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>turbo50</b> <br /><small>Member # 6700</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,23,13,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 93PONY:<br /><strong> Retail on the Crankshaft is $217<br />Retail on the rods: $225<br />Retail on similar pistons: Under $300<br />Rings & bearings: $175 or less<br /><br />That's $917 retail & I know of kits with 2618 forged pistons that retail for $899. Any way you slice it you're looking at around $900 RETAIL for the rotating assembly.<br />Figure any good machine shop will have much better pricing (at least 20% less) & you're looking at cost of around $700. Add a block & machine work & yes it's very possible that a machine shop can do all the operations listed, balance, & assemble the shortblock & still make a decent profit while keeping the machining/assembly quality high.....even if the parts themselves are 'economy'.<br /><br />From my experience a cast-steel stroker crankshaft & 'SIR' style rods will hold more power than the stock block can handle. The pistons would not be my choice considering the dirt-cheap pricing of Probe's 2618 forgings, but hey...I'm sure they'll still much stronger than the stock 302 slugs which have been known to handle well over 500hp.<br /><br />Honestly, it's a damn good price. I know I wouldn't buy one....but I'm an engine builder & if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna spend a little more $$$ & do it right. However, I see no reason why this motor can not handle 450+HP if the machining/assembly was done correctly. In the end the rotating assembly can handle more Power than the block.<br /><br />Personally I'd go for a 347. Same price as a 331 & you can't go wrong with more cubes IMO. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well said. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>lowriderryda</b> <br /><small>Member # 7397</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2007,7,24,13,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> try this guy i just got a motor from the were very helpful<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/302-Ford-Engine-with-TrickFlow-Heads-Free-SH-ARP-Head-B_W0QQitemZ270155348239QQihZ017QQcategoryZ33615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/302-Ford-Engine-with-TrickFlow-Heads-Free-SH-ARP-Head-B_W0QQitemZ270155348239QQihZ017QQcategoryZ33615QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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