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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
I WAS DRIVING TO WORK THIS MORNING AS ANY OTHER DAY. ONLY DIFFRENCE IN THAT MY DAILY DRIVER IS GETTING WORKED ON SO IM DRIVING MY 03 COBRA IN THE MEANTIME.
I WAS APPROACHING A DOWNWARDS RAMP ONTO THE FREEWAY AND AS I WENT TO GO SLOW DOWN I NOTICED THE BREAKS WERE REALLY HARD AS IF THEY FELT LIKE THEY LOCKED AND IT TOOK A LARGE AMOUNT OF PUSHING TO EVEN SLOW DOWN BARELLY ENOUGH. NOT BEING THE ONLY THING MY STEERING WHEEL DID THE SAME! IT FELT LIKE IT LOCKED AND BARELLY TURNED ENOUGH TO MAKE THE TURN! I SHIFTED TO 2ND GEAR APPROACHING THE BOTTOM AND THE CAR WOULDNT GO! ALL OF A SUDDEN THE RPMS JUMPED AND THATS WHEN I PULLED TO THE SIDE!

THE CAR WAS HESITANT TO START THIS MORNING. PROB DUE TO THE RANDOM COLD AND RAIN FROM LAST NIGHT. ( IT TOOK A SEC OR 2 LONGER FOR IT TO START ) BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY DIFFRENCE IN THE TIME IVE BEEN DRIVING MY CAR.

I CHECKED THE BELT AND ALL THE FLUIDS WHEN I GOT TO WORK. HAVENT CHECKED THE BELT BEHIND THE SUPERCHARGER YET THOUGH.

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK!
THANKS!!!!
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
So it sounds like the car shut off for a split second and by you throwing it into 2nd caused it to "pop start" up again. Is that about right

It's a bit confusing bec you say your brakes locked up

Edit: It;s been a while since i researched the tsb/recall stuff on the Termi's but wasn't there one out for a stalling problem.

Can't remember since my last 2 have been flashed w/ multiple different tunes i haven't experienced that ever lol.

Is your car modded or stock?

[ July 11, 2007, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: TRIXSNK ]
 

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Posted by BCINGUU (Member # 2397) on :
 
Sounds like the motor died, then came back to life.

Not a good sign. Better have it checked out.
 

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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
WHAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED THE CAR TO EITHER STALL OR TURN OFF THOUGH? CAUSING THE BREAKS AND THE WHEEL TO LOCK?
I PUT THE CAR IN NUTRUAL WHEN I APPROACHED THE RAMP... IT SHOULDNT STALL OR SHUT OFF IN NUTRUAL RIGHT?

I KNOW THE CAR SHUTS OFF AUTOMATICALLY WHEN YOU HIT A CERTAIN SPEED BUT I WAS NO WHERE NEAR HITTN THAT KIND OF SPEED WHEN APPROACHING A RAMP!

MY MODS ARE SMALLER PULLEY, INTAKE, AND SLP CATS. TUNED THE CAR WITH THE HAND TUNER
 

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Posted by 03SVT (Member # 5987) on :
 
I had this stalling issue it happened when you go above 40 miles and then stick it neutral and then stop with it still being in neutral. TRIXSNK is right you have the stalling issue. What tune do you have is it the canned tune in the programmer because once I tuned my car with a custom tuner the problem went away. YOu can get it reflashed at FORD with the new one but you have to put your old parts back on.
 

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Posted by 03SVT (Member # 5987) on :
 
Once you stick it back in gear it starts. Also an issue with the MAF having too much or no air in the engine
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
Check your door sill for the computer code and post back.

I believe some of the earlier run Termi's had the problem.

Most poeple had it fixed as a tsb from the factory as my first one was.

It was a YDH0 i beleieve.

If it's a canned tune i'd junk that anyway and get a real tune done on a dyno unless you plan to mod some more...........then get the tune
 

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Posted by 03SVT (Member # 5987) on :
 
How much did you sell the car to COBREEZY? TRIXSNK. Also what car is going to replace the cobra
 

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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
THANKS FOR THE HELP!!

I SAW THE STICKER INSIDE THE DOOR...

ILL CHECK IT OUT ON MY LUNCH! IS IT A SHORT OR LONG NUMBER? DONT KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR...THAT STICKER HAS ALOT OF CRAP ON IT!(INFO WISE)

YAH I HAVE TO GET IT CUSTOM TUNNED! I KNOW THAT! HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST TIME THIS WILL HAPPEN TO ME CUZ IT SCARRED THE CRAP OUT OF ME!!! GOING ON A RAMP AND EVERYTHING LOCKING NOT BEING ABLE TO SLOW DOWN AND TURN LIKE IT SHOULD...AHHH!

I HEARD THAT YOU DONT NEED TO GET THE CAR RE-TUNED IF YOU GET A HEAT EXCHANGER. IS THT TRUE?
NO PLANS ON ADDING ANY OTHER MODS TO THE CAR. AS OF RIGHT NOW!

[ July 11, 2007, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: QUEENCOBRA03 ]
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by QUEENCOBRA03:
THANKS FOR THE HELP!!

I SAW THE STICKER INSIDE THE DOOR...

ILL CHECK IT OUT ON MY LUNCH! IS IT A SHORT OR LONG NUMBER? DONT KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR...THAT STICKER HAS ALOT OF CRAP ON IT!(INFO WISE)

YAH I HAVE TO GET IT CUSTOM TUNNED! I KNOW THAT! HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST TIME THIS WILL HAPPEN TO ME CUZ IT SCARRED THE CRAP OUT OF ME!!! GOING ON A RAMP AND EVERYTHING LOCKING NOT BEING ABLE TO SLOW DOWN AND TURN LIKE IT SHOULD...AHHH!

I HEARD THAT YOU DONT NEED TO GET THE CAR RE-TUNED IF YOU GET A HEAT EXCHANGER. IS THT TRUE?
NO PLANS ON ADDING ANY OTHER MODS TO THE CAR. AS OF RIGHT NOW!

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No need for a re-tune for a h/e.

Be careful because it will probably happen again

The sticker you are looking for is not the one with all the vin info etc.

If it's still there it's a just the ecu # and should only be a few digits long like what i posted "YDH0"

Caps off please

03SVT - I won't say the price yet but it's a great deal for what the car has into it
 

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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
THE ONLY STICKER THAT IS IN THE INSIDE OF MY DOOR IS A BLUE STICKER WITH THE VIN NUMBER AND PRESSURE GAGE OF THE TIRES AND STUFF....

IT WAS DATED 03/03 IF THAT HELPS AT ALL...
 

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Posted by COPFITY (Member # 1845) on :
 
ok if your steering and your brakes locked up that meens ure having problem with the hydraboost system.

hydraboost uses power steering vacuum to power ure brakes. i would have that checke dby your local ford dealership asap.. i hope its still got a warranty.
 

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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
I BOUGHT THE CAR OFF A PRIVATE OWNER! NO WARRANTY!!!
 

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Posted by COPFITY (Member # 1845) on :
 
well needless to say thats where your troubles might be


ON EDIT: That shouldn't matter.. as long as the milage/years are still within factory warranty they shuld fix it. my brother bought an 04 cadillac from enterprise rent a car and he had the blower motor waranteed thru the dealership because he did not go over the 50,000 mile warranty. call the dealership and find out for yourself.. whats the worst they can tell u no? and if the do tell you no call another one, and another one. my brother went to three different dealerships until he found one that would help him.

my .02

[ July 11, 2007, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: COPFITY ]
 

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Posted by COPFITY (Member # 1845) on :
 
one theory that comes to mind is the fact that u put the car in neutral.. this would cause your engine to operate at idle, causing your power steering pump to not create enough vacuum to operate your power brakes... so when you stepped on the brakes it depleated any vacuum required to operated your steering and your brakes...

thats just my theory tho.. have it checked out.. steering and brakes are important


 

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Posted by BOTIH8R*pbr* (Member # 7295) on :
 
your brakes work off of the p/s pump.so if your engine stalls you will lose both.you probably should check to see how dirty your maf is.mine starts doing this on offramps every couple months.i clean the maf and it goes away.
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by COPFITY:
ok if your steering and your brakes locked up that meens ure having problem with the hydraboost system.

hydraboost uses power steering vacuum to power ure brakes. i would have that checke dby your local ford dealership asap.. i hope its still got a warranty.

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Bingo!

Probably lost the 6-rib belt behind the 8-rib Supercharger belt.
The car will still run without the 6-rib but the A/C, PS/Brakes & water pump will not work. The Alternator & Blower are on the 8-rib belt...so the car will still run....till it overheats.
 

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Posted by 03SVT (Member # 5987) on :
 
Queen CObra 03 its your passenger door not drivers side door. MOst likely you have YDH0 I guarantee it. Post September 2002 If I remember correctly
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
Queen how's that belt looking?

Sorry i didn't read all the way through your post about not checking the rear belt.

I'd also check that maf out like Botih8r said and clean it with some electronic component cleaner.
 

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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
I FOUND THE STICKER!!!!!
THANKS 03SVT IT WAS ON THE PASSENGER DOOR!
(WAS LOOKING ON THE WRONG DOOR)

ITS YDH1


 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by QUEENCOBRA03:
I FOUND THE STICKER!!!!!
THANKS 03SVT IT WAS ON THE PASSENGER DOOR!
(WAS LOOKING ON THE WRONG DOOR)

ITS YDH1

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but did you check the belt and maf as suggested?
 

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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
A FRIENDS COMMING TO COME CHECK IT OUT TODAY!

I HAVE MY CHECK OFF LIST TO GO THROUGH!

THANKS FOR YOUR GUYS' HELP!

ILL KEEP YOU GUYS POSTED!
 

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Posted by QUEENCOBRA03 (Member # 7522) on :
 
LOOKS LIKE I NEED TO GET THE CAR DYNO / TUNED!!!

JSUT GOT IT CHECKED AND EVERYTHING IS FINE!!!
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by QUEENCOBRA03:
LOOKS LIKE I NEED TO GET THE CAR DYNO / TUNED!!!

JSUT GOT IT CHECKED AND EVERYTHING IS FINE!!!

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Originally posted by QUEENCOBRA03:
NOPE NEVER HAVE HAD IT DYNO OR GOT CHECKED AFTER THE HAND TUNNER!

YAH THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ITS HAPPEND AND THE ONLY TIME ITS HAPPEND...

IVE ONLY HAD THE CAR FOR 3 MONTH (ABOUT) AND SLOWLY PUTTING MODS AND BARALLY DRIVE IT KNOWING THAT IT NEEDS TO GET TUNED. BUT CUZ MY DAILY DRIVER IS GETTING WORKED ON I VE BEEN DRIVING MY COBRA AROUND THIS WEEK...

IVE REFUSED TO EVEN TRY AND STEP ON IT AT ALL SINCE IT HAPPEND AND PUTTING IT AWAY UNTIL I CAN GET IT DYNO / TUNED (THE RIGHT WAY)

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Good idea not to beat on it but i'm sure you could still drive around while not in boost.

That's how i drive my Cobra cuz once the 20lbs of boost hits you better get out the way
 

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Posted by Rick Richards (Member # 7637) on :
 
Well he was partly right about the hydro boost. The power steering pump is used to provide pressure for both the P/S and the brakes. It is not vacuum, it is pressure! If the engine stalled, it would make the steering hard and the brake pedal hard after a few strokes. Also if the belt broke the P/S pump would not spin, or if you drove through a puddle, it would cause the belt to slip on the pullies.
 

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Posted by Rick Richards (Member # 7637) on :
 
Queenie, Please do not type in all capitals. Thank-You

[ July 16, 2007, 02:05 PM: Message edited by: Rick Richards ]
 

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