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Posted by full throttle (Member # 7220) on :
 
i installed long tubes on my 88 fox body yesterday, and ran into a few problems.

The flange on the headers don't sit flush with the head, it seems like the runners are bigger than the head port or something. is it the wrong header?

2nd, i couldn't use my stock bolts to bolt it up, the washer on the bolt hits the runners. Do people always use after market bolts, if so, is there a certain brand?

any help would be appreciated thank you

[ January 13, 2007, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: full throttle ]
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Is this on a auto trans car? If so, check the clearance at the bellhousing. Also check to make sure they aren't hitting the K member.

And yes, you'll need new bolts.
 
Posted by full throttle (Member # 7220) on :
 
5 speed car, its not hitting anything. is it stil ok to run it even though the flange isn't flush with the head?
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
What gaskets are you using? Have you swapped the bolts out?
 
Posted by full throttle (Member # 7220) on :
 
im using a fel pro gasket, you think that could be the problem, im about to get allen key bolts. you think that would work?
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
I personally don't the like allen bolts...I always prefer ARP header bolts...

what gasket are you using?

[ January 14, 2007, 03:41 AM: Message edited by: jordan_0806 ]
 
Posted by full throttle (Member # 7220) on :
 
fel pro gasket
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
if it isn't flush, get another set of gaskets (stack 2 on each side), and a set of arp header bolts that are longer than the bolts you have now and you'll be good.

[ January 14, 2007, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Blind ]
 
Posted by full throttle (Member # 7220) on :
 
i got everything in, now my steering rack is rubbing against my 4th runner on the driver side, the mounts aren't bolted up yet, it doesn't look like it will clear, anyone have any problems with this? so far i hate the design of hedman headers
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by full throttle:
i got everything in, now my steering rack is rubbing against my 4th runner on the driver side, the mounts aren't bolted up yet, it doesn't look like it will clear, anyone have any problems with this? so far i hate the design of hedman headers
that's pretty muc normal on any long tube install abotu the rubbing...you can do a couple of things....

1) hammer is your friend for clearance
2) pry bar is another friend for clearance
3) change the motor mounts otu to energy suspension..they lift the motor up enough for clearance...at least that what I have come across
 
Posted by full throttle (Member # 7220) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by full throttle:
i got everything in, now my steering rack is rubbing against my 4th runner on the driver side, the mounts aren't bolted up yet, it doesn't look like it will clear, anyone have any problems with this? so far i hate the design of hedman headers
that's pretty muc normal on any long tube install abotu the rubbing...you can do a couple of things....

1) hammer is your friend for clearance
2) pry bar is another friend for clearance
3) change the motor mounts otu to energy suspension..they lift the motor up enough for clearance...at least that what I have come across
i'm using prothane motor mounts.. would that help?
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by full throttle:
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by full throttle:
i got everything in, now my steering rack is rubbing against my 4th runner on the driver side, the mounts aren't bolted up yet, it doesn't look like it will clear, anyone have any problems with this? so far i hate the design of hedman headers
that's pretty muc normal on any long tube install abotu the rubbing...you can do a couple of things....

1) hammer is your friend for clearance
2) pry bar is another friend for clearance
3) change the motor mounts otu to energy suspension..they lift the motor up enough for clearance...at least that what I have come across
i'm using prothane motor mounts.. would that help?
My friend had the same problem with prothane mounts...we switched them to Energy and it cleared
 
Posted by CMELEVU (Member # 2563) on :
 
yeah i have all kinds of clearance issues with my long tubes. but i have a scatter shield, and the car used to be and auto. I think to make mine clear next time i'm going with a set of customs. combo now just doesnt warrant the cost of custom headers
 




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