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Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
just curious wether i should build my own motor or if its worth a little extra just to have it made...anyone know any good shops to get a motor built and what kinda price am i looking at to make around 400hp at the wheels, reliably

thanks! [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
just curious wether i should build my own motor or if its worth a little extra just to have it made...anyone know any good shops to get a motor built and what kinda price am i looking at to make around 400hp at the wheels, reliably

thanks! [patriot] [patriot]
robs machine shop [patriot]
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
ball park price for a built 302? long block or crate
 
Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :
 
You can usally buy a motor built cheaper than you can build one yourself these days.
 
Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
just curious wether i should build my own motor or if its worth a little extra just to have it made...anyone know any good shops to get a motor built and what kinda price am i looking at to make around 400hp at the wheels, reliably

thanks! [patriot] [patriot]
Do you have all the tools and machinery at your house that a machine shop does? If not have a shop build it!
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
what are we talking price wise though?? i would be happy to call myself haha but im kinda overseas right now and want to order it or have it started before i come home
 
Posted by 1/4 HORSE (Member # 5094) on :
 
331/347 cid-485 hp

-Bennett Racing Sportsman 331 or 347 Shortblock
-Custom Grind Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
-Canton 7 quart Oil Pan Kit
-Stage 2 TFS TW Cylinder Heads
-Roller Rockers & Hardened Pushrods
-Holley Systemax II Intake-Ported

bennett racing $8995
 
Posted by 1/4 HORSE (Member # 5094) on :
 
You could even call Lance at CSM (california street machine). He built my engine and it put close to 400 rwhp the last time I had it dynoed. Cost me about 7 or 8 grand when it was all said and done on the engine alone. But hey, you gotta pay if you wanna play... [Smile]

CSM is a good choice [patriot]
707 429 1888
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
ball park price for a built 302? long block or crate
The price will depend on how you build it and who builds it for you. Are you building it to stock specs or are you upgading the internals? What kind of heads are you going to run?

Also, if you are going to have a forged 302 built you may as well upgrade to a 331 or 347 while you are at it. The price diff isn't that much.

If you want an rough ballpark CHP forged 306 short blocks run between $1500 and $2500. A stroker is about $800 more.
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
hmm ok and what else will i need to upgrade when i put a new motor in as far as fuel, cooling etc.
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
hmm ok and what else will i need to upgrade when i put a new motor in as far as fuel, cooling etc.
Are you trying to make 400hp NA or w/ a power adder? If you are using a power adder then you will need to use bigger injectors than NA. Anyway, I would upgrade the following:

- fuel pump (or pumps)
- injectors
- AFPR
- MAF to match injectors
- Ingition (MSD, Crane, etc)
- Radiator (Summit makes a good aluminum one)
- High flow water pump

There are probably a few other things I am leaving out.
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
i got an msd pro billet ignition set its goign to be NA any suggestions for injector size and fuel pump??
 
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :
 
If I was going to spend $8000 on a motor it'd be a Ford Racing 520ci 600hp big block. [Smile]
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
im thinking more along the lines of around 400 i dont want too much..i was thinking of just getting the 345 hp gt-40 crate from summit its 3,500 seems like a good deal to me and maybe throw in a small powerdyne or something
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
i got an msd pro billet ignition set its goign to be NA any suggestions for injector size and fuel pump??
30lb injectors and a 255lph in tank pump

quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
im thinking more along the lines of around 400 i dont want too much..i was thinking of just getting the 345 hp gt-40 crate from summit its 3,500 seems like a good deal to me and maybe throw in a small powerdyne or something
$3500 is a pretty decent deal although you can do a lot better than those GT-40 heads. I would try and get a long block with Edelbrock, Trick Flow, or AFR heads.

If you decide to go with a blower don't get a Powerdyne. Either get a Vortech s-trim or a Novi 1000. If you are on a budget then you can pick up a good used s-trim kit for under $2000.
 
Posted by 1/4 HORSE (Member # 5094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MustangNate:
If I was going to spend $8000 on a motor it'd be a Ford Racing 520ci 600hp big block. [Smile]
Too much wieght. Plus too many mods to get it to fit, which means more money anyway
 
Posted by 2000GTskip (Member # 4885) on :
 
Batteux racing in San leandro built my motor and he does 302's as well give him a call (510)351-7594 did a great job and can get u what u want at agreat price.. [burnout] his name is Jean..tell him Chris sent u..

[ August 09, 2006, 11:22 PM: Message edited by: 2000GTskip ]
 
Posted by nine (Member # 6732) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1/4 HORSE:
331/347 cid-485 hp

-Bennett Racing Sportsman 331 or 347 Shortblock
-Custom Grind Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
-Canton 7 quart Oil Pan Kit
-Stage 2 TFS TW Cylinder Heads
-Roller Rockers & Hardened Pushrods
-Holley Systemax II Intake-Ported

quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
[qb] <<stuff deleted>> Anyway, I would upgrade the following:

- fuel pump (or pumps)
- injectors
- AFPR
- MAF to match injectors
- Ingition (MSD, Crane, etc)
- Radiator (Summit makes a good aluminum one)
- High flow water pump

There are probably a few other things I am leaving out.
new oil pump
headers--preferably long tubes
tune (MAF doesn't have to "match" the injectors)

btw I assume that you're talking about 400 rwhp NA

[ August 10, 2006, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: nine ]
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
yea not flywheel hp the only hard thing is its damn near impossible to call people dude to the stupid time difference and work schedule and what not BAH
but thanks for the info [patriot] keep it coming if you guys got anything else
 




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