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93Cobra50
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Can I run an air ride system with a tubular k member and a-arms? If not they are for sale. This is on a fox
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i cant see a reason why it wouldnt work.
it would actually probally help u with the install
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Blind
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so long as they have stock style spring perches...as the air bags replace the stock springs.
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The kit is for a fox so should be no problem huh?
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if the airbag and strut are one assembly, then yes
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The Air bag/Strut assembly by AirRide is awesome - Check it
Take that spindle... and attach it to:
Since tubular components retain your spindle, you simply connect the air-strut to the spindle and you're good to go. This is a setup I want to do on my car and I have all tubular components as well
[ April 05, 2006, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: BlacksheepMod50 ]
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93Cobra50
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Trading the tubular K
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CLEEN 50
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does anyone have picture of a fox w/ air ride suspension? I would love to see it dropped all the way. Does anyone know how it feels compared to the stock feel? I'm thinking of heading towards this way for my vert.
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Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
does anyone have picture of a fox w/ air ride suspension? I would love to see it dropped all the way. Does anyone know how it feels compared to the stock feel? I'm thinking of heading towards this way for my vert.
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my buddy (dusty122 on here) has it on his 90 gt convertable.
it rides like a caddy.
he left the swaybars and stock shocks/struts on it and it drove fine. It would go up about as high as an explorer, and then would drop almost to the point of laying frame.
his car is all dissassembled right now or I'd get a pick of it (he lives 2 mins from me).
The front tucks and the wheels camber in, it basically touches the gt front bumper cover on the ground.
the rear sits up a bit higher, we're trying to figure out what stops it from laying completely down. Looking into doing an IRS swap. We've pulled the pinion snubber, the bump stops, the shocks, the fuel tank, etc. And it sits with the tops of his 17" rims flush with the wheel well lip.
[ April 06, 2006, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: blind ]
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Just bought the kit. Just have to remove it from the car. Changed my mind im using the tubulars with it now. The kit is bad ass it will all fit where the spare tire goes. Has a remote and all. Cant wait to install. Next is 20" Cobras.
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CLEEN 50
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Originally posted by blind:
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Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
does anyone have picture of a fox w/ air ride suspension? I would love to see it dropped all the way. Does anyone know how it feels compared to the stock feel? I'm thinking of heading towards this way for my vert.
Thanks
my buddy (dusty122 on here) has it on his 90 gt convertable.
it rides like a caddy.
he left the swaybars and stock shocks/struts on it and it drove fine. It would go up about as high as an explorer, and then would drop almost to the point of laying frame.
his car is all dissassembled right now or I'd get a pick of it (he lives 2 mins from me).
The front tucks and the wheels camber in, it basically touches the gt front bumper cover on the ground.
the rear sits up a bit higher, we're trying to figure out what stops it from laying completely down. Looking into doing an IRS swap. We've pulled the pinion snubber, the bump stops, the shocks, the fuel tank, etc. And it sits with the tops of his 17" rims flush with the wheel well lip.
Oooooh man you gotta get a pic for me. ![[Frown]](frown.gif) If it rides like a caddy, that in it self is worth it!!!! ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif) . I'm getting excited, I think I might purchase the kit. How much did he spend for everything and who installed it?
Thanks
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93Cobra50
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I just added up the kit im getting and the front strut kit is $1000, The rear kit is $400, and the compressor kit is $1000.
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93Cobra50
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I only paid $800. One bad bag though its only $125. Has me excited about the car again. Im putting my motor together this weekend too so im getting ready for the nice weather. Just gotta do paint next.
[ April 06, 2006, 11:37 PM: Message edited by: 93Cobra50 ]
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CLEEN 50
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Why are you getting the $1K front kit as opposed to the front kit that cost $350.00?
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93Cobra50
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Because it works with the tubular k member and a arms. It is the strut style.
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2004 Dodge Ram 3500 Diesel 4x4- Trade for 03 Cobra?
70 ElCamino PROJECT!
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CLEEN 50
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Originally posted by 93Cobra50:
Because it works with the tubular k member and a arms. It is the strut style.
oh I see. Do you think the more expensive kit is more comfortable or would I be fine with the cheaper kit? I dont think I will be ever going with a tubular front.
Thanks
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93Cobra50
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I believe riding on air is all the same. Not sure though.
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Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
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Originally posted by blind:
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Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
does anyone have picture of a fox w/ air ride suspension? I would love to see it dropped all the way. Does anyone know how it feels compared to the stock feel? I'm thinking of heading towards this way for my vert.
Thanks
my buddy (dusty122 on here) has it on his 90 gt convertable.
it rides like a caddy.
he left the swaybars and stock shocks/struts on it and it drove fine. It would go up about as high as an explorer, and then would drop almost to the point of laying frame.
his car is all dissassembled right now or I'd get a pick of it (he lives 2 mins from me).
The front tucks and the wheels camber in, it basically touches the gt front bumper cover on the ground.
the rear sits up a bit higher, we're trying to figure out what stops it from laying completely down. Looking into doing an IRS swap. We've pulled the pinion snubber, the bump stops, the shocks, the fuel tank, etc. And it sits with the tops of his 17" rims flush with the wheel well lip.
Oooooh man you gotta get a pic for me. If it rides like a caddy, that in it self is worth it!!!! . I'm getting excited, I think I might purchase the kit. How much did he spend for everything and who installed it?
Thanks
I think he paid about $700 for the kit.
He installed it in his driveway, took about a weekend.
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Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
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Originally posted by 93Cobra50:
Because it works with the tubular k member and a arms. It is the strut style.
oh I see. Do you think the more expensive kit is more comfortable or would I be fine with the cheaper kit? I dont think I will be ever going with a tubular front.
Thanks
the kits that cost more usually have better fittings.
My buddy had to replace a TON of the fittings his kit came with because they leaked air, not a ton but they would leak enough he had to have his compressor running all the time while on the freeway to keep it at normal ride height...
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Yea ive got the bags where it replaces the coil springs and i think the kit was about 700 bux. Ive replaced most of the stuff that came with my kit though. The problem with airride stuff is its really meant for trucks and there is so much more room around the suspension on trucks. This makes running the plastic dot brakes lines kind of hard without kinking them or getting them to go straight into the push pull fittings. Ive replaced all my line with 1/2" steel braded line which you have to order custom and aint to cheap. I also upgraded my valves. The valves in the kit are normal crappy as p.o.s. that leak the day u buy them. Im running smc 1/2" and 1/4" valves Ive replaced the tank with a 5 gallon and gone to electronic gauges. The only thing left on my kit are the bags, brackets and the compressors. Go with the firestone compressors unless you want to see them or want to run an oiled system which is quiter. but the firestone ones are the most reliable and are way under rated on power. Ive over heated mine several times and they always come back to life. As for the ride it is preety sweet. It rides like a caddy minus the bouncing around like a boat. It rides preety sweet on the freeway but rides like a normal lowered car around town. It will bottom out on the freeway on large bumps though so u have to ride it about the stock hieghth on the fw to keep that from hapening. I was preety impressed with the setup other than i always wish it would go lower. It also did preety good cruisin to vegas a buck 40 with the top down. Other than the loud ass noise at that speed it was damn stable
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BTW if ur looking for fittings hit me up. I'll sell a whole mess load of um to you for cheap if you decide to go conventional. Also dont get the plastic fittings with ur kit. They are absolute crap also. Go with the brass fitting. By far the best option when running dot brake line
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CLEEN 50
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Yea ive got the bags where it replaces the coil springs and i think the kit was about 700 bux. Ive replaced most of the stuff that came with my kit though. The problem with airride stuff is its really meant for trucks and there is so much more room around the suspension on trucks. This makes running the plastic dot brakes lines kind of hard without kinking them or getting them to go straight into the push pull fittings. Ive replaced all my line with 1/2" steel braded line which you have to order custom and aint to cheap. I also upgraded my valves. The valves in the kit are normal crappy as p.o.s. that leak the day u buy them. Im running smc 1/2" and 1/4" valves Ive replaced the tank with a 5 gallon and gone to electronic gauges. The only thing left on my kit are the bags, brackets and the compressors. Go with the firestone compressors unless you want to see them or want to run an oiled system which is quiter. but the firestone ones are the most reliable and are way under rated on power. Ive over heated mine several times and they always come back to life. As for the ride it is preety sweet. It rides like a caddy minus the bouncing around like a boat. It rides preety sweet on the freeway but rides like a normal lowered car around town. It will bottom out on the freeway on large bumps though so u have to ride it about the stock hieghth on the fw to keep that from hapening. I was preety impressed with the setup other than i always wish it would go lower. It also did preety good cruisin to vegas a buck 40 with the top down. Other than the loud ass noise at that speed it was damn stable
Damn this got me worried about odering the kit from them. Do you think you can put a list together of the parts I should order from air ride suspension along with the parts that should be upgraded (i.e. fittings, lines, etc.) Will all these parts be available from them? I want a complete no-leak system.
thanks for all the great info. Did you do the install yourself?
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you will need atleast 1 air compressor. i think they reccomend 1 air compressor per 3 gallons of tank. The more compressors means the faster your reserve will get replenished but also will take a lot more power to run. I reccormend the firestone ones and you can find those on ebay for a reasonable price. For valves go with the olidnoid type valves instead of the all in one valves. SMC makes good ones. the big mouth ones are preety good. You will also need brass fittings to connect the valves together. because it will take 2 valves per side. so if u were to do a full fbss system you will need 8 valves. the bigger the opening on the valve and the bigger line you run will determine how fast it will go up and down. 1/2" in probably the most popular on the street. you can go all the way up to an inch and half now which is preety crazy. the more hotrod guys use 1/4" line because they like the slow quiet drop instead of the instant shotgun sounding drop. as for fittings most ppl use brass quick connect fittings. The plastic stuff is basically worthless. Also for the fittings get the paste style teflon tape works much better than the tape and easier to use but its just messy. if you go with convnetial air line make sure you run dot brake line. you can normally find tons of it on ebay or orther shops on line for very cheap. Ive gone with bradded steel line which is much much more expensive something like 8 bucks a foot plus 15 bucks per fitting and you have to know your exact lengths. as for bags i just have the standard style bags and i dont know the differences between styles except maybe some of the other styles will lift ur car higher. for switches go with a pre made box. that will help a lot. if you want to go with something more integrated check out boat supply places. they will have a lot more of a choice for rocker switches and they are all 12 volt. For gauges. the standard 2 needle gauges are probably the best. the digital ones are cool because you dont have to run air line up through your dash but the digital ones are alot more expensive and are not as accurate. especially while driving because the pressure in the bags jumps all around and its easier to tell your actual pressure with te anolog gauges.
I did the whole thing in my driveway in about a weekend. There is no welding involved. you basically have to drill and bolt in a bracket into your lower control arm and mount the bag.
sites you check out
baggerbirds.com
cool site with pictures on installing bags on tbirds. the front it basically identical to the stang.
aimind.com
a decent place to get parts for airride stuff. they have tons of stuff but they are slow in shipping sometimes and some of the ppl can be jackasses.
teampnuematik.com I think thats how you spell it.
these guys are preety cool. they are located in canada and use to have the best prices on smc valves.
of course check out ebay and also pick up some copies of mini truckin, truckin and sport truck magazine. Theres awesome info in there on air ride in there. its mainly for trucks but the info is still very useful. There are also numerous ads from other airride parts shops and 90 percent of the stuff is transferable to airride systems on ur stang.
hope that helps. if you have more qs post here or pm me
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CLEEN 50
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Did you purchase your kit from air ride? Would you consider installing my kit once I purchase it? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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CLEEN 50
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Did you purchase your kit from air ride? Would you consider installing my kit once I purchase it?
Would this be a good compressor kit?
http://www.airride.com/productinfo/rideproe.asp
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