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Posted by thoroughbred (Member # 6651) on :
 
can you put a cam in using the stock heads?
If so, which one?
I know it's always better to upgrade the heads, but i'm just looking for something as of now.
More mods will come later once I get a set of heads.
So for now is there any cam that I can put in usung stock heads?
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
An E303 or TFS stage 1 would work ok. I have the E cam and it runs good in my stock motor.
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
is a tfs stage 2 to much for stock heads?
 
Posted by 23boy5.0 (Member # 5511) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:
An E303 or TFS stage 1 would work ok. I have the E cam and it runs good in my stock motor.
DID YOU CHANGE THE LIFTERS AND SPRINGS?
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
Yeah, you can run an E-cam or something similar but I don't think your gains will be worth the effort of swapping cams. I would wait until you upgrade your heads b/f changing the cam.

You can install 1.7 rr's on your stock heads. This will give you a bit more valve lift and reduce friction. It is a relatively easy upgrade compared to changing cams. I would recommend doing this at the same time you upgrade your intake to save some time [Wink]
 
Posted by ALLEYEZONMYCOBRA (Member # 5068) on :
 
what if you were to install a X or Z cam...i know those are hi cams, but is there any special things you gotta upgrade, with those cams?????...
would one of those cams be worth it??
 
Posted by ALLEYEZONMYCOBRA (Member # 5068) on :
 
i mean if ur gonna slip ina cam,might as well put ina big one right??
 
Posted by AaronC (Member # 86) on :
 
A cam on stock heads is definitely worth it. Camara90 had a TFS #1 w/1.7 rockers on stock heads with and Edelbrock RPM intake, 1 5/8th longtube headers, off road exhaust with a TB, MAF, and cold air kit. He retarded the cam on the chain to take out the pre ground advance it comes with. At 3400+ lbs it went 13.00 at 106.99 on its only pass. Just set the timing to 14 and fuel psi at 40. with some tuning etc I'm sure it could've done a little better. The valve train will need to be done right and that's where most screw it all up and never get what they thought they would out of the setup.
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 23boy5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:
An E303 or TFS stage 1 would work ok. I have the E cam and it runs good in my stock motor.
DID YOU CHANGE THE LIFTERS AND SPRINGS?
I think this is the most overlooked aspect of modifying a fox body stang. The stock valve spring's were barely getting the job done when they were new! 17 Year's and 100,000-200,000 miles later with an even more aggresive cam or increasing valve lift with 1.7 rocker's does'nt make much sense. Hell if You are changing the cam and You pull the head's off it's a snap to have someone pop new spring's in and they are only around 100 buck's plus labor, or they have a tool to change them with the head's still on the car which Me and a friend did on My car a while back.
 
Posted by ALLEYEZONMYCOBRA (Member # 5068) on :
 
wheres the best place to get some springs.. for a good price
 
Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AaronC:
A cam on stock heads is definitely worth it. Camara90 had a TFS #1 w/1.7 rockers on stock heads with and Edelbrock RPM intake, 1 5/8th longtube headers, off road exhaust with a TB, MAF, and cold air kit. He retarded the cam on the chain to take out the pre ground advance it comes with. At 3400+ lbs it went 13.00 at 106.99 on its only pass. Just set the timing to 14 and fuel psi at 40. with some tuning etc I'm sure it could've done a little better. The valve train will need to be done right and that's where most screw it all up and never get what they thought they would out of the setup.
Your times in your sig are very impressive for a GT Vert! What is a HiTech cam? Never heard of it.

I have a couple friends that did mid 13's on street tires with cam, intake, gears and exhaust. I agree that you might as well do an intake when you do the cam

[ March 24, 2006, 06:26 PM: Message edited by: silverLX ]
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ALLEYEZONMYCOBRA:
wheres the best place to get some springs.. for a good price
I got My comp cam spring's from summit for around 125 buck's. Check with Your cam manufacturer for spring rates or if You can't get any info that way do a search on here and on corral.net. [patriot] Oh and don't forget to make sure You ask for the installed hieghth along with the spring rate. [patriot]

[ March 24, 2006, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: SmokinLX ]
 
Posted by ALLEYEZONMYCOBRA (Member # 5068) on :
 
thank you sir... [patriot]
 
Posted by thoroughbred (Member # 6651) on :
 
basically I've got a 89lx and have a new cobra intake(upper & lower). When I put that on I want to do a cam as well.
So from what I gather, I can put in a E303 in there, but make sure I change out the valve springs and upgrade the rockers to 1.7's

Someone tell me if this is correct?
I'm planning on having all this done at once.
 
Posted by AaronC (Member # 86) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by silverLX:
Your times in your sig are very impressive for a GT Vert! What is a HiTech cam? Never heard of it.[/QUOTE]

It's a custom from HiTech Motorsport
 




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