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Posted by 90cobraclone (Member # 6354) on :
 
fox body or new mustangs

[ January 03, 2006, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: 90cobraclone ]
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]

Anyone else see the write up on the vortech v-2 they strapped on the new GT and got over 500 rwhp and could of got more if they did'nt max out the 39 lb injector's and the returnless fuel system was at it's limit's also. Pretty impressive considering it still had the stock exhaust and everything. Anyone know what the limit's are for the new gt's block?
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]

Anyone else see the write up on the vortech v-2 they strapped on the new GT and got over 500 rwhp and could of got more if they did'nt max out the 39 lb injector's and the returnless fuel system was at it's limit's also. Pretty impressive considering it still had the stock exhaust and everything. Anyone know what the limit's are for the new gt's block?
Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Just wait 'til people start slapping turbos on them [Eek!]
 
Posted by 92coupe (Member # 1957) on :
 
new mustangs probably see more power off each aftermarket part installed. but most aftermarket parts require the computer to be re-flashed.

Justin
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]

Anyone else see the write up on the vortech v-2 they strapped on the new GT and got over 500 rwhp and could of got more if they did'nt max out the 39 lb injector's and the returnless fuel system was at it's limit's also. Pretty impressive considering it still had the stock exhaust and everything. Anyone know what the limit's are for the new gt's block?
Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Just wait 'til people start slapping turbos on them [Eek!]
we are doing a twin turbo '05 this month
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]

Anyone else see the write up on the vortech v-2 they strapped on the new GT and got over 500 rwhp and could of got more if they did'nt max out the 39 lb injector's and the returnless fuel system was at it's limit's also. Pretty impressive considering it still had the stock exhaust and everything. Anyone know what the limit's are for the new gt's block?
Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Just wait 'til people start slapping turbos on them [Eek!]
we are doing a twin turbo '05 this month
What is the limit of horsepower You feel these block's can handle?
 
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
The biggest limitation to the new mustangs IMO is weight.
Power to weight ratio is FAR better in a Fox.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]

Anyone else see the write up on the vortech v-2 they strapped on the new GT and got over 500 rwhp and could of got more if they did'nt max out the 39 lb injector's and the returnless fuel system was at it's limit's also. Pretty impressive considering it still had the stock exhaust and everything. Anyone know what the limit's are for the new gt's block?
Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Just wait 'til people start slapping turbos on them [Eek!]
we are doing a twin turbo '05 this month
What is the limit of horsepower You feel these block's can handle?
Its not the block as much as the stock rods. The stock lower end wont take very much HP for long from what I hear.... [Frown]
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
the piston is the weak point. I think they are better than fox's in that they seem to perform better with less mods. I mean with gears, CAI, Tune and tires they have ran in the 12's Thats pretty good.
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]

Anyone else see the write up on the vortech v-2 they strapped on the new GT and got over 500 rwhp and could of got more if they did'nt max out the 39 lb injector's and the returnless fuel system was at it's limit's also. Pretty impressive considering it still had the stock exhaust and everything. Anyone know what the limit's are for the new gt's block?
Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Just wait 'til people start slapping turbos on them [Eek!]
we are doing a twin turbo '05 this month
Post some pics and dyno sheets when you are done [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
If you can afford a 05 that is a better choice. The chasis is 1000% better than the Fox's.. it's the same chassis as the the Jaguar X-Type which is a VERY good platform to start with. Some people complain about the 05 because it is so smooth that people don't think it's making enough HP.

The only drawback for mods for the 05 is they are expensive compared to 04 and under.
 
Posted by Curt (Member # 6254) on :
 
the new ones are UGLY!!

I think somebody should but the 3v 4.6 in a LX notch!

THAT would be cool!
 
Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
i like the new stangs...96-04....i aint to fond for the 05 but if i were to get something in that style it would be the 07 shelby gt500...thats about it...but my all time favorite is the 2003-2004 Cobras'....got to love them...cant wait to get one of those...
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
quote:
Originally posted by CDT:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by 92stangLX:
Stock vs. stock the '05-'06 will blow away a foxbody (300hp vs 225hp).

If you are asking "which will perform better when modified?" it all depends on how much money you have to spend [Wink]

Anyone else see the write up on the vortech v-2 they strapped on the new GT and got over 500 rwhp and could of got more if they did'nt max out the 39 lb injector's and the returnless fuel system was at it's limit's also. Pretty impressive considering it still had the stock exhaust and everything. Anyone know what the limit's are for the new gt's block?
Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Just wait 'til people start slapping turbos on them [Eek!]
we are doing a twin turbo '05 this month
Post some pics and dyno sheets when you are done [Big Grin]
Will do, the kit should be here in about a week or so. We are also doing some other upgrades to it also.
 
Posted by lostsoul (Member # 5797) on :
 
I dont know.. I think a turbo is a waste of time and money. Too many parts, too much money and too much moeny.. With any sc kit you can go to 700-800 hp.. I think the time should be used for pully upgrades and tuning [patriot]

btw: I have been running my procharged 05 with 430-440rwhp for 6 months now and have no issues except for leaving tire marks on the work parking lot .. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostsoul:
I dont know.. I think a turbo is a waste of time and money. Too many parts, too much money and too much moeny.. With any sc kit you can go to 700-800 hp.. I think the time should be used for pully upgrades and tuning [patriot]

btw: I have been running my procharged 05 with 430-440rwhp for 6 months now and have no issues except for leaving tire marks on the work parking lot .. [Big Grin]

good thing you had Apex fix up your plugs...
So would you like to race this turbo car???
 
Posted by lostsoul (Member # 5797) on :
 
haha.. I'm good a speed shifting.. I think I might be able to take it. The key is in the launch [Razz]
 
Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostsoul:
I dont know.. I think a turbo is a waste of time and money. Too many parts, too much money and too much moeny.. With any sc kit you can go to 700-800 hp.. I think the time should be used for pully upgrades and tuning [patriot]

Haha yeah right any sc kit can push those numbers. [BS flag] Try an A-trim or Sn93 model and you could barely push half that. Just hope your procharger doesn't blow a seal soon.

I took this from another board:

quote:
Turbo's are for wimps because you can adjust boost levels with a screwdriver. Blowers are for real men, because adjusting the boost level involves a lot of manly, complicated work.

 
Posted by lostsoul (Member # 5797) on :
 
88DroptopGT = I think my engin will blow before the procharger seal.. haha.. I'm going to beat that turbo car even if it takes out an engin [Big Grin]
 




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