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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Rickster</b> <br /><small>Member # 962</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,7,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> stock forged piston bottom end, mildly ported GT40P's with heavier springs, dual quad Edel brock F-28 intake with (2) 500CFM carbs. I would like a lumpy idle, but streetable. Anyone have experience with the stage 2 on a carbed engine? The stage 1 is my backup plan. Any other cam recomendations for a hyd roller carbed engine? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>forced331</b> <br /><small>Member # 1270</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,8,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The stage 2 will work better with high compression or boost over 10psi. I think the stage 1 will work with your setup alot better. I have a stage 2 in my 331 with 13psi it makes great power. The stage 1 with 1.7 rockers will work great.<br /> <br /> <small>[ May 05, 2005, 08:50 AM: Message edited by: forced331 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>AJBlackGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 3936</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,9,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I dont think you'll need that big of a cam with gt40s either <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>The Nick</b> <br /><small>Member # 2244</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,10,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The stage 1 cam is plenty lumpy for a stock block 302. I have a sound clip of my car with the Stage 1 cam at idle somewhere on my PC. I'd post it, but I can't host it anywhere. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>2ToNE ToNe</b> <br /><small>Member # 4216</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,13,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i know a buddy of mine running a stage 2 on a stock 302 and it sounds great..and it seems to riding ok...hes also pushing about 10 psi<br /> <br /> <small>[ May 05, 2005, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: 2ToNE ToNe ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92stangLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3252</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,13,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by forced331:<br /><strong> The stage 2 will work better with high compression or boost over 10psi. I think the stage 1 will work with your setup alot better. I have a stage 2 in my 331 with 13psi it makes great power. The stage 1 with 1.7 rockers will work great. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Another vote for the stage 1 <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>FasterDamnit</b> <br /><small>Member # 442</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,13,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Perfect for a carbed setup. Plus some 4.10's.<br />BUT-<br /><br />A pair of 500cfm carbs willl be overkill. It will make more power w/ a good single carb setup. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Rickster</b> <br /><small>Member # 962</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,14,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Thanks for the answers...I know the carbs are overkill, but this will be going into a FFR Cobra replica and it just looks right sitting in that engine bay, so I am willing to give up a few (15 max) ponys....but I want it to sound right too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> 2300# car with about 280-300RWHP and 315 meats. I wont be building this one (my second) for another year or two, so I am sure I will change my mind a couple of times before then. I am a complete noob with this carburated stuff and was not sure if the TFS cams worked well with it or not. If the Stage 1 is lumpy, then it sounds like the better choice to me. If you could e-mail me that sound file I would really appreciate it!<br /> <br /> <small>[ May 05, 2005, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: Rickster ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>FasterDamnit</b> <br /><small>Member # 442</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,15,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Stage 2 is the better choice for power AND a lumpy idle. If you are doing dual carbs, why wimp out on the cam? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Rickster</b> <br /><small>Member # 962</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,19,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You guys arent making this easy! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br />OK how about the stage 2 with the heads knoked down abit to get 10:1...would this be a pain to cruze the streets with? (wide ratio 99+ 4R70W with 3:55 gears and a TCI controller)...means I would need to flycut the pistons and get some RR's too. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>89 FAKE SNAKE</b> <br /><small>Member # 4531</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,19,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i got a stage 1 wit my motor wit 10.5:1 and its sounds and runs great <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>The Nick</b> <br /><small>Member # 2244</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,22,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I sent you that email. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>jordan0806</b> <br /><small>Member # 5528</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,5,23,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> a stage 2 cam on that motor will load up too much...you'll have to do some tuning if possible...stick with a Stage 1..... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Rickster</b> <br /><small>Member # 962</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,6,6,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Thanks for that file Nick....I think it's a stage 1 for me...sounds great, and I wont need the extra hassle of flycut pistons and I can add the RR's later. Anyone have a stage 1 for sale? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Glenn</b> <br /><small>Member # 520</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,8,16,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by forced331:<br /><strong> The stage 2 will work better with high compression or boost over 10psi. I think the stage 1 will work with your setup alot better. I have a stage 2 in my 331 with 13psi it makes great power. The stage 1 with 1.7 rockers will work great. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">what are your times? My friend has a stage 1 cam, TFS high ports, and an S trim, Best E.T to Date os 11.6 @ 119mph. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>JohnB</b> <br /><small>Member # 969</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,8,16,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I was running a stage 1, ported RPM's and a SQ-trim. 11.0@125, best mph was 127+. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Glenn</b> <br /><small>Member # 520</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,8,16,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by JohnB:<br /><strong> I was running a stage 1, ported RPM's and a SQ-trim. 11.0@125, best mph was 127+. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">wow!!! wish my car would run that hard. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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