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Topic: Is a TFS Stage 2 too much for a 302?
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Rickster
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stock forged piston bottom end, mildly ported GT40P's with heavier springs, dual quad Edel brock F-28 intake with (2) 500CFM carbs. I would like a lumpy idle, but streetable. Anyone have experience with the stage 2 on a carbed engine? The stage 1 is my backup plan. Any other cam recomendations for a hyd roller carbed engine?
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Posts: 131 | From: Cedar Ridge | Registered: Mar 2002
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forced331
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The stage 2 will work better with high compression or boost over 10psi. I think the stage 1 will work with your setup alot better. I have a stage 2 in my 331 with 13psi it makes great power. The stage 1 with 1.7 rockers will work great.
[ May 05, 2005, 08:50 AM: Message edited by: forced331 ]
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AJBlackGT
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I dont think you'll need that big of a cam with gt40s either
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The Nick
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The stage 1 cam is plenty lumpy for a stock block 302. I have a sound clip of my car with the Stage 1 cam at idle somewhere on my PC. I'd post it, but I can't host it anywhere.
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2T0NE
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i know a buddy of mine running a stage 2 on a stock 302 and it sounds great..and it seems to riding ok...hes also pushing about 10 psi
[ May 05, 2005, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: 2ToNE ToNe ]
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92stangLX
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Originally posted by forced331:
The stage 2 will work better with high compression or boost over 10psi. I think the stage 1 will work with your setup alot better. I have a stage 2 in my 331 with 13psi it makes great power. The stage 1 with 1.7 rockers will work great.
Another vote for the stage 1 ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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FasterDamnit
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Perfect for a carbed setup. Plus some 4.10's.
BUT-
A pair of 500cfm carbs willl be overkill. It will make more power w/ a good single carb setup.
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Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
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Rickster
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Thanks for the answers...I know the carbs are overkill, but this will be going into a FFR Cobra replica and it just looks right sitting in that engine bay, so I am willing to give up a few (15 max) ponys....but I want it to sound right too ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) 2300# car with about 280-300RWHP and 315 meats. I wont be building this one (my second) for another year or two, so I am sure I will change my mind a couple of times before then. I am a complete noob with this carburated stuff and was not sure if the TFS cams worked well with it or not. If the Stage 1 is lumpy, then it sounds like the better choice to me. If you could e-mail me that sound file I would really appreciate it!
[ May 05, 2005, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: Rickster ]
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Planning ahead for that midlife crissis!
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FasterDamnit
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Stage 2 is the better choice for power AND a lumpy idle. If you are doing dual carbs, why wimp out on the cam?
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Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
'65 Mustang 347
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Livin' in the Carolina Pines
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Rickster
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You guys arent making this easy!
OK how about the stage 2 with the heads knoked down abit to get 10:1...would this be a pain to cruze the streets with? (wide ratio 99+ 4R70W with 3:55 gears and a TCI controller)...means I would need to flycut the pistons and get some RR's too.
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Planning ahead for that midlife crissis!
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i got a stage 1 wit my motor wit 10.5:1 and its sounds and runs great
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The Nick
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I sent you that email.
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a stage 2 cam on that motor will load up too much...you'll have to do some tuning if possible...stick with a Stage 1.....
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Rickster
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Thanks for that file Nick....I think it's a stage 1 for me...sounds great, and I wont need the extra hassle of flycut pistons and I can add the RR's later. Anyone have a stage 1 for sale?
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Planning ahead for that midlife crissis!
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Glenn
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quote:
Originally posted by forced331:
The stage 2 will work better with high compression or boost over 10psi. I think the stage 1 will work with your setup alot better. I have a stage 2 in my 331 with 13psi it makes great power. The stage 1 with 1.7 rockers will work great.
what are your times? My friend has a stage 1 cam, TFS high ports, and an S trim, Best E.T to Date os 11.6 @ 119mph.
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Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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JohnB
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I was running a stage 1, ported RPM's and a SQ-trim. 11.0@125, best mph was 127+.
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Glenn
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Originally posted by JohnB:
I was running a stage 1, ported RPM's and a SQ-trim. 11.0@125, best mph was 127+.
wow!!! wish my car would run that hard.
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Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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