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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>5.0killer</b> <br /><small>Member # 4249</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,23,10,18,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Hey I Currently Have 4 Lug And I Been Told That % Lug Is Alot Better Can SomeOne Tell Me All The Parts That I Need To Buy To Convert To 5 Lug Thanks Alot<br /><br />Rob <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>JohnB</b> <br /><small>Member # 969</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,23,10,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> "5 lug is better"? <br /><br />Care to explain? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>5.0killer</b> <br /><small>Member # 4249</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,23,10,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> yes <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Dag302</b> <br /><small>Member # 4682</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,23,10,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Cause if you lose 1 lug you still have 4. Your always 1 lug up.......... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>TURLX50</b> <br /><small>Member # 3928</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,23,18,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> MOST PEOPLE SAY IT BETTER JUST CUZ OF A BETTER WHEEL SELECTION BUT SHIT A SET OF 93 COBRAS IS ALL I WOULD NEED FOR A 4 LUG SET UP...... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Quick 88LX</b> <br /><small>Member # 1950</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,23,21,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> In theory, a 4 lug pattern is weaker than a 5 lug pattern because of basic geometry. Think back to when you guys learned about simple angles in high school or college(this may be many years for some of you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ) A square cannot support the same stresses (were talking torque here) that a triangulated shape can. A square has four 90 degree, right angles in its shape and is weaker because of them. A 5 lug pattern does not have <b>any</b> right angles and is, gemoetrically, a bunch of triangles overlapping each other to make a star. Don't believe me? Look at the sides and underside of a steel bridge the next time you are in a boat. Shit, just drive westbound accross the bay bridge for that matter... Notice all the triangles? My point exactly. Engineering at its best.<br /><br />The 5 lug pattern is stronger. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>SilverLX351</b> <br /><small>Member # 3207</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,23,21,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You can do it a few different ways:<br /><br />Ranger axles and drums in rear, Mark 7 rotors in front...very limited wheel selection<br /><br />also, you can use 94 or 95 mustang spindle, rotors, calipers and get SN95 ball joints in the front. Do ranger axles in rear, or SN95 rear end.<br /><br />Hope this helps <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>phildog</b> <br /><small>Member # 1214</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,24,18,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I just did an install on a 91 5.0 with customer supplied parts. The guy bought brand new axles and drums from Ford Racing, and the switch was a very easy and foolproof way to convert to 5 lug. On the front end, DO NOT use F6 or later spindles, only 94-95 spindles, as stated earlier. The later spindles stick the wheels out too far and they hit the fenders, even if you roll the lips. <br /><br />In regards to the advantage of 5 over 4 lugs, not only is there a strength advantage, 4 lug cars just look weak. Case in point, the early 6 cylinder Mustangs were 4 lug. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>JohnB</b> <br /><small>Member # 969</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,24,18,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I seriously doubt ANY of you are even REMOTELY putting enough power down to warrant 5 lug. Not even close. If you want the looks, great...go for it. If you want it for more wheel choices, go for it. But to say it is "better" is <img border="0" alt="[BS flag]" title="" src="graemlins/bs_flag.gif" /> . I broke a axle in my Cobra before the lugs broke. <br />And my 4 lug looks just fine with the Welds and stock 93 Cobras, but I guess my car is "weak" for having them.<br /><br />To answer your question, go to PNP and get two Ranger axles and drums from a 2wd truck. Then go over to the first Mark 7 you find and pull the rotors. If your car was/is a 4cyl, you can use the rotors off the Ranger as well...due to the spindles being different from V8s to 4cyl's. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66 AC COBRA</b> <br /><small>Member # 904</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,24,18,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by JohnB:<br /><strong> I seriously doubt ANY of you are even REMOTELY putting enough power down to warrant 5 lug. Not even close. If you want the looks, great...go for it. If you want it for more wheel choices, go for it. But to say it is "better" is <img border="0" alt="[BS flag]" title="" src="graemlins/bs_flag.gif" /> . I broke a axle in my Cobra before the lugs broke. <br />And my 4 lug looks just fine with the Welds and stock 93 Cobras, but I guess my car is "weak" for having them.<br /><br />To answer your question, go to PNP and get two Ranger axles and drums from a 2wd truck. Then go over to the first Mark 7 you find and pull the rotors. If your car was/is a 4cyl, you can use the rotors off the Ranger as well...due to the spindles being different from V8s to 4cyl's. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">yes your car is weak <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />4 lug has supported well over 1200hp, very few actually need 5 lug, i went to 5 lug for wheel choices and brake choices, strange doesnt have drag brakes for 4 lug (i dont think anyway?)<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 24, 2005, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: 66 AC COBRA ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>cdog301</b> <br /><small>Member # 5136</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,3,21,11,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> sorry phil dog I knew better and I did it anyway!<br />Creighton <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>AJBlackGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 3936</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,3,21,14,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Quick 88LX:<br /><strong> In theory, a 4 lug pattern is weaker than a 5 lug pattern because of basic geometry. Think back to when you guys learned about simple angles in high school or college(this may be many years for some of you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ) A square cannot support the same stresses (were talking torque here) that a triangulated shape can. A square has four 90 degree, right angles in its shape and is weaker because of them. A 5 lug pattern does not have <b>any</b> right angles and is, gemoetrically, a bunch of triangles overlapping each other to make a star. Don't believe me? Look at the sides and underside of a steel bridge the next time you are in a boat. Shit, just drive westbound accross the bay bridge for that matter... Notice all the triangles? My point exactly. Engineering at its best.<br /><br />The 5 lug pattern is stronger. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">People run in the 9s with no problem on 4 lugs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>illwill510</b> <br /><small>Member # 3788</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,3,21,15,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> even though my car only makes 300hp to the ground, when i did my five lug swap in the rear i noticed all of my 4 lugs were bent on the rear pasanger side. I was sporting the 93 cobras and im glad i switched em to 5 lug. It definatly makes your ride stronger! 4 lug guys check you lugs for straightness bet there are some that are outa line. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>The Nick</b> <br /><small>Member # 2244</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,3,21,15,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The reason I did the 5lug conversion was because I wanted 4 wheel discs. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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