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Does X-pipe really matter, I installing a bassani catback and want everything to sound/fit good. Does it matter with the Offroad x-pipes? will BBK do or should I just buy the Bassani? Thanks guys!

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I always wondered that too what is the difference between BBK, bassani, and other x-pipes?
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I don't know about performance, but if nothin' else, my Bassani setup sounds bad ass!! Love it.

edit: neighbors hate it [Big Grin] jk(I think)

[ February 03, 2005, 09:52 AM: Message edited by: RixSikCobra04 ]

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i have a BBK o/r x-pipe and it was a snap to install, not too bad for $199.99

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Originally posted by 1992gtdrop:
I always wondered that too what is the difference between BBK, bassani, and other x-pipes?

Difference is in the actual "X" design.

I believe some have x's that are like 2 pieces of bent tubing that is almost cut (fish-mouth) style like a roll cage and then welded together on the parts that meet in the center.

Where as Bassani i believe like Magnaflow advertise there x's to be stamped from a piece of metal as a seperate piece with ajoining tubes to mount to the rest of the exhaust.

Also the style off flanges/connectors vary making some harder to install than others.

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Dr Gas if you are going offroad, custom fit it to your exhaust, should be no problems.
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There is a great article in the March 2005 issue of Mustang Enthusuast. It compares BBK H-Pipe, Bassani X-Pipe, BBK X-Pipe, MagnaFlow X-Pipe, Dr. Gas X-Pipe, and the VRS X-Pipe.

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quote:
Originally posted by BlackDrop50:
Dr Gas if you are going offroad, custom fit it to your exhaust, should be no problems.

used it before and loved it, its going to be that or bassani

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Like a lot of people i wonder what the difference it also. i have an o/r BBK x-pipe with flows and it sounds great and wasnt to bad to install but i had a lift i could use.

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quote:
Originally posted by 5OHS5OH:
There is a great article in the March 2005 issue of Mustang Enthusuast. It compares BBK H-Pipe, Bassani X-Pipe, BBK X-Pipe, MagnaFlow X-Pipe, Dr. Gas X-Pipe, and the VRS X-Pipe.

So what was the outcome? I have a o/r bbk shorty h and was thinking of switching and seeing if others make more hp.
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Go with what your pocket can afford. I've got o/r Bassani's with Flows and I love it. My wife can hear me coming home from a mile away, j/k!

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The highlights of the article read, using a a 97 N/A Cobra making 350 rwhp, that all the pipes were close to each other. For example:

3000 RPM
Bassani= 155 hp
BBK= 155 hp
Dr. Gas= 156 hp
Magna-Flow= 156 hp
VRS= 141 hp
and the average was 156 hp

6000 RPM
Bassani= 341 hp
BBK= 343 hp
Dr. Gas= 343 hp
Magna-Flow= 344 hp
VRS= 340 hp
and the average was 342 hp

The highest hp reading (at 6800 RPM) was Dr. Gas @352 & Magna-Flow @352.

The test also compared catted vs. off-road, using a Dr. Gas catted and uncatted pipe. The test found that there wasn't much difference between hp ratings up to about 347 hp. Above 347 hp, it appeared that the cats did hinder performance. The largest difference was 6 hp at 6800 RPM.

The article also ran a X pipe Vs. an H pipe, specifically a BBK H-Pipe. The testers found only a minimal difference above 2800 RPM, usually two hp and at the most 4 hp. The big difference was sound. The BBK H-Pipe was deafening and the testers couldn't even stand behind the car near redline because of the noise.

Sorry for the length, hopes this helps.

[ February 03, 2005, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: 5OHS5OH ]

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quote:
Originally posted by 5OHS5OH:
The highlights of the article read, using a a 97 N/A Cobra making 350 rwhp, that all the pipes were close to each other. For example:

3000 RPM
Bassani= 155 hp
BBK= 155 hp
Dr. Gas= 156 hp
Magna-Flow= 156 hp
VRS= 141 hp
and the average was 156 hp

6000 RPM
Bassani= 341 hp
BBK= 343 hp
Dr. Gas= 343 hp
Magna-Flow= 344 hp
VRS= 340 hp
and the average was 342 hp

The highest hp reading (at 6800 RPM) was Dr. Gas @352 & Magna-Flow @352.

The test also compared catted vs. off-road, using a Dr. Gas catted and uncatted pipe. The test found that there wasn't much difference between hp ratings up to about 347 hp. Above 347 hp, it appeared that the cats did hinder performance. The largest difference was 6 hp at 6800 RPM.

The article also ran a X pipe Vs. an H pipe, specifically a BBK H-Pipe. The testers found only a minimal difference above 2800 RPM, usually two hp and at the most 4 hp. The big difference was sound. The BBK H-Pipe was deafening and the testers couldn't even stand behind the car near redline because of the noise.

Sorry for the length, hopes this helps.

Coo bro thanks [patriot]
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quote:
Originally posted by 5OHS5OH:
The highlights of the article read, using a a 97 N/A Cobra making 350 rwhp, that all the pipes were close to each other. For example:

3000 RPM
Bassani= 155 hp
BBK= 155 hp
Dr. Gas= 156 hp
Magna-Flow= 156 hp
VRS= 141 hp
and the average was 156 hp

6000 RPM
Bassani= 341 hp
BBK= 343 hp
Dr. Gas= 343 hp
Magna-Flow= 344 hp
VRS= 340 hp
and the average was 342 hp

The highest hp reading (at 6800 RPM) was Dr. Gas @352 & Magna-Flow @352.

The test also compared catted vs. off-road, using a Dr. Gas catted and uncatted pipe. The test found that there wasn't much difference between hp ratings up to about 347 hp. Above 347 hp, it appeared that the cats did hinder performance. The largest difference was 6 hp at 6800 RPM.

The article also ran a X pipe Vs. an H pipe, specifically a BBK H-Pipe. The testers found only a minimal difference above 2800 RPM, usually two hp and at the most 4 hp. The big difference was sound. The BBK H-Pipe was deafening and the testers couldn't even stand behind the car near redline because of the noise.

Sorry for the length, hopes this helps.

What about torque rating for these pipes? Any infos? [Confused]

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Max Torque =
All max torque readings were taken between 5000 and 5200 rpm.

Magnaflow off-road X 309.0
VRS off-road X 308.8
BBK off-road X 308.3
Dr. Gas off-road X 308.3
Bassani off-road X 308.9
BBK off-road H 303.1

Catted Dr. Gas off road X vs. catted Dr. Gas X pipe at max power:

Catted = 311.3
no cats = 310.5

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Those are really interesting numbers...
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GO WITH BASSANI!! BBK is a little cheaper..bassani's x-pipe where it makes the X look is more bigger so u get a better torque out of it and sound. I got one..sounds bad ass!

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