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Topic: Went to the Dyno today!
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section525
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I was hoping for more power, but:
What do you guys think? I have a:
5.0L
Explorer upper
GT40 Lower
GT40-P heads
E-303
1.6 Roller Rockers
air intake
Apten chip
19# injectors
headers
AOD-E
stock exhaust - 4 cats
3.73
So why am I only laying down 200HP? And more importantly, why only 220 TQ?
Here's a little vid of the session http://www.section525.com/xpage/dynofull.wmv
[ August 02, 2004, 10:01 PM: Message edited by: section525 ]
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hidnn.o.s.
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I think your AOD is what is hurting you. I have nearly the same combo. I am expcting more power like you were. Guess I kinda know what to expect now. I have 410's so I hope my torque is good atleast. What was your timing at?
I do have a high flow Bassany X pipe though.
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section525
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Timing is 0. It's not adjustable in my ride. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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hidnn.o.s.
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Ahhh, sorry. I assumed fox body. I have a high flox X pipe. Don't know how much the stock pipe is hurting you, but I would guess atleast 15rwhp with your combo?
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BlueOvalRacing
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Your tire size affects your rear gear ratio also - you are probably around a 3.00 or less gear with that size tire. Switch back to the stock size tires and your numbers will go up
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section525
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The reason I got it dynoed was because I wanted a baseline before swapping headers. The shiney ones are custom made, only two sets in existance (so far). ![[Cool]](cool.gif) The guy who built them sent to to me for free to test on my higher performance (than most Explorers) motor. So I wanted to get a before and after.
Next to the FMS headers
So after I get these on, I'll open the exhaust up and get it dynoed a third time. But I'm thinking I'm missing about 50HP somewhere! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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section525
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quote:
Originally posted by BlueOvalRacing:
Your tire size affects your rear gear ratio also - you are probably around a 3.00 or less gear with that size tire. Switch back to the stock size tires and your numbers will go up
I actually had stock size 235/75/15s on the back. ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif)
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BlueOvalRacing
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sorry - they look bigger in your video
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section525
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Ha.. don't apologize. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Coyoteswapfox92
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Nice
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Well your air fuel ratio looks a little fat. You want to be closer or on the red line at 13:1. When was that Apten chip done? Have you added anything since? Send a copy of the dyno chart and your mods to Brian and see if he can reburn to get your A/F in line. You might be surprised at the gains from getting that dialed in (though it won't be 50 rwhp).
He was able to get my Mustang to wake up quite a bit as it was running pretty rich as well.
Good luck.
Sean.
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section525
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quote:
Originally posted by Sean90GT:
Well your air fuel ratio looks a little fat. You want to be closer or on the red line at 13:1. When was that Apten chip done? Have you added anything since? Send a copy of the dyno chart and your mods to Brian and see if he can reburn to get your A/F in line. You might be surprised at the gains from getting that dialed in (though it won't be 50 rwhp).
He was able to get my Mustang to wake up quite a bit as it was running pretty rich as well.
Good luck.
Sean.
I had it burnt for all my current mods (plus exhaust). Would having stock exhuast effect the ratio? I heard Brian isn't at Apten anymore. Know if he is still doing chips?
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its a little lean. did you do anything to change the a/f ratios after each run? if they make an adjustable fuel regulator, you should raise the fuel pressure a bit
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section525
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Okay, a guy with a stock motor, with intake and exhaust, dynoed at 157HP and 221TQ. So where did my torque go?
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BlackNGold
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Clogged cats?...
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the Explorer's too much, but why can't you adjust your timming?...You can't get a timming adjuster?...
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section525
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Explorers have a DIS system.. and I think you'd need something like this to adjust the timing.
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section525
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![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
[ August 11, 2004, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: section525 ]
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section525
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Dynoed second time around... 206HP 227TQ. That was with no exhaust after the cats and the new headers on.
Still looking for my lost power somewhere.. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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BlackNGold
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What happens if you take the chip out?...
Get rid of your cats!....
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