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My Infiniti Is So FAST
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i have seen some cars with a single supercharger, some cars with a single turbocharger, a few cars with twin turbochargers,
why have i never seen twin superchargers??
this seems like a great idea, if one is good two is better
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PeNiNsula302
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i have no idea about the subject, but chances are there is a reason you havent heard anything about it
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98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX'
Uncle Frank
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probably cause it would be too hard to control both Belts and have them work at the same speed and everything, since you can always have the problem of belt slipage and junk like that. The belts factor in too many possibilites for error where Turbos just run on the Exhuast and the Exhuast should be the same on both sides.
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mtbaughs
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I've seen in the past issue's of MMFF some of the drag race guys running two superchargers, R trim Vortech's to be more specific. Reason why nowadays you don't see that anymore....my guess is that because todays superchargers are damn efficient. With the right pulley combo 20+ psi is easy to get.
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166 Merlo
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no traction, unloads too much power all at once for damn near anything to hook. Not practical either.
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88DroptopGT
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Just swap pulleys to get the psi you want.
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wilit
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Aston Martin built the Vantage in 1992. Twin Eaton 5.3 litre V8...
In 1963 Studebaker had a prototype engine, the R5 for the Avanti, which was a 289ci twin McCullough (Now Paxton) superchargers.
And before you ask, the Lancia Delta S4 utilized what's called "twincharging". It used a roots style supercharger up to 4k rpm, then a bypass valve opened, and the turbo chargers boost began to feed the engine. This was all on a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder engine.
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BlackNGold
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quote: Originally posted by wilit: Aston Martin built the Vantage in 1992. Twin Eaton 5.3 litre V8...
In 1963 Studebaker had a prototype engine, the R5 for the Avanti, which was a 289ci twin McCullough (Now Paxton) superchargers.
And before you ask, the Lancia Delta S4 utilized what's called "twincharging". It used a roots style supercharger up to 4k rpm, then a bypass valve opened, and the turbo chargers boost began to feed the engine. This was all on a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder engine.
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graylx
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quote: Originally posted by wilit: Aston Martin built the Vantage in 1992. Twin Eaton 5.3 litre V8...
In 1963 Studebaker had a prototype engine, the R5 for the Avanti, which was a 289ci twin McCullough (Now Paxton) superchargers.
And before you ask, the Lancia Delta S4 utilized what's called "twincharging". It used a roots style supercharger up to 4k rpm, then a bypass valve opened, and the turbo chargers boost began to feed the engine. This was all on a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder engine.
Damn...I wish I was as well-versed in auto history as you!
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wilit
Mustang Messiah
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quote: Originally posted by graylx: Damn...I wish I was as well-versed in auto history as you!
That's what happens when your mom tells you to go outside and play, but you'd rather read Motor Trend and Car & Driver magazines as a kid.
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graylx
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quote: Originally posted by wilit: quote: Originally posted by graylx: Damn...I wish I was as well-versed in auto history as you!
That's what happens when your mom tells you to go outside and play, but you'd rather read Motor Trend and Car & Driver magazines as a kid.
lol...smart kid
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a50sn95
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Mike Sitar started out with a Twin supercharged Tbird buildup.: here Finding a kit for twin Superchargers on an Infiniti G35 (Or any car)....good luck. The point was it is not cost effective, when a single will make all the power needed for most situations. Add the additional bracketry, ducting, and just enough room under most hoods, and I can't imagine any manufacturer seriously considering it, much less building it AND certifiying it for emmisions, and hoping to have enough buyers. Definitly a "Custom" job...
Posts: 226 | From: Galt | Registered: Nov 2001
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50DADDY
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Mike Sitar: Very informative website.
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1Sicgt
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At the alteredspeed grand opening there was a twin supercharged pantera there. It had two roots type blowers mounted in a v shape custom intake, then had side draft webers on it. It was bad ass. John over from Altered worked on it he would know more. [ June 20, 2004, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: 1Sicgt ]
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FasterDamnit
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Bill Cosby + Carrol Shelby. 'nuff said.
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9cobra9
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today on phrtv their featured car was some buick with twin superchargers.
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My Infiniti Is So FAST
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quote: Originally posted by 9cobra9: today on phrtv their featured car was some buick with twin superchargers.
so my idea is catching on
GREAT
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FasterDamnit
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Nope, You're at least 35 years behind the times.
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wilit
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quote: Originally posted by FasterDamnit: Nope, You're at least 35 years behind the times.
Tommy Ivo was the first guy to build a twin supercharged drag motor back in the 60's. It's just not a very effecient design. When you consider it takes 20-30hp to turn a roots style supercharger, why would you waste 60hp to get the same ammount of boost into an engine as a single supercharger? It really does't make sense.
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FasterDamnit
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Yup. That's why when Cosby wanted a car that could go 200mph, O'l Shel threw two paxtons on a 427 Cobra. The rest is history...
-------------------- '92 LX T5 Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
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Eddie510-
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what about a turbo and a supercharger at the same time one whistles and then whoosh! and Nitrous
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quote: Originally posted by Eddie510: what about a turbo and a supercharger at the same time one whistles and then whoosh! and Nitrous
can you do both a turbo and a supercharger??
i like the way that sounds
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wilit
Mustang Messiah
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quote: Originally posted by InfinitiG35: can you do both a turbo and a supercharger??
i like the way that sounds
Please read my first reply in this thread.
-------------------- "If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
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FasterDamnit
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If big power from multiple power adders is what you want, then get multiple turbo's and stage them. Have one feed into another. How about 200psi boost? Tractor pull guys run setups like that.
-------------------- '92 LX T5 Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
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