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cobraman_1994
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anyone running one? the only person i know running one i think got sawsoned
if so, how do you like it?
and what about the flaming river quick ratio rack&pinion? hows that feel?
i need to go to manual rack so i can free up some room te ease the turbo install. bye bye PS, AC, and smog. hello hair dryer ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
[ March 31, 2004, 08:42 PM: Message edited by: cobraman_1994 ]
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Posts: 4882 | From: eldorado hills | Registered: Sep 2001
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I've got a flaming river rack on my coupe ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
its a little hard to turn when the car is sitting in one spot, but I think it looks really good installed.
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02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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cobraman_1994
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Originally posted by blind:
I've got a flaming river rack on my coupe
its a little hard to turn when the car is sitting in one spot, but I think it looks really good installed.
yeah, it just helps make the engine compartment look much cleaner. so only when stopped its hard to turn? fuck that, i hate making u turns anyways
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Posts: 4882 | From: eldorado hills | Registered: Sep 2001
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white1990stang
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yeah im gonna be switching to a manual rack soon to. my a/c and all my smog is already gone. my blower is also going on soon. good thing i got smog hookups.
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You must be fast, cause I was haullin ass when I passed you.
Posts: 1308 | From: martinez | Registered: Jan 2003
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well my car hasn't driven in 3 months, but I will be able to let you know by this weekend, I am hoping to have it on the road tomorrow, I need to fix a minor leak on my fuel return line then I take it to get it aligned, discharge the a/c system so I can take it out, then get it smogged. I should have plenty of short trips where I'll be able to get the feel for the rack.
but from pushing my car around the driveway during my 4 cylinder swap and getting rid of related parts from the garage, it seems to be very easy to turn once the car is rolling.
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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66 AC COBRA
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i have driven the three different common types of manual rack cars
my car, ghetto styel, stock rack without lines and just open airs, not bad at all when moving, from a stop not so fun, on 205/x/15 shit tires right now
quick ratio road racing rack with cobra r's and 245's up front, not that easy unless going 35+mph, almost impossible to turn from a stop or very slow role
slow ratio 20:1 with 225/x/16's, easily the best of the bunch, not that hard to turn even from a stop
get the slow ratio rack and just get ready to turn the wheel alot, but its worth it because the effort isnt that much freater that stock with PS
both aftermarket racks were from flaming river
eventually i will be getting a flaming river slow ratio rack
talk to kasey, jmclesky's (sp?) cousin, he goes by kcmustangboy on here, gumby had the slow ratio rack and 245/45/17 and was just fine when i was in it
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FFR AC Cobra
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Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
talk to kasey, jmclesky's (sp?) cousin, he goes by kcmustangboy on here, gumby had the slow ratio rack and 245/45/17 and was just fine when i was in it
I bought gumby, the rack, engine, driveline, brakes, etc for my 4 banger swap are from gumby
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by blind:
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
talk to kasey, jmclesky's (sp?) cousin, he goes by kcmustangboy on here, gumby had the slow ratio rack and 245/45/17 and was just fine when i was in it
I bought gumby, the rack, engine, driveline, brakes, etc for my 4 banger swap are from gumby
i see, so that is what he did wit hthe car
man i remember that motor, i did the headgaskets on it with casey, that motor is strong for being stock ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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FFR AC Cobra
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Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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yea I noticed the ARP bolts on the heads and wondered what was up...
the engine still runs great
it may be a stock motor, but with the underdrive pullies, a/c delete, smog pump bypass, electric fan, and manual rack it doesn't have that much load except to send the power to the wheels
it will be getting GT-40 heads and an edelbrock performer intake and the longtube headers will go back on after I smog it
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02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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cobraman_1994
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so how much weight will be lost on my car?
manual rack
tubular k member
coilovers
no ac
no smog
no back seats
no power options at all
86 GT t top with 6pt roll bar
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Posts: 4882 | From: eldorado hills | Registered: Sep 2001
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probably near 80 pounds, flaming river advertises the rack saves 30 pounds alone in the swap
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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mustanggt5091
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curious about this as well, I will be swapping to a manuel when I can afford it, I want to do it when i do my K member and switch to the welds
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Posts: 2353 | From: Fairfield / Santa Rosa , Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by cobraman_1994:
so how much weight will be lost on my car?
manual rack
tubular k member
coilovers
no ac
no smog
no back seats
no power options at all
86 GT t top with 6pt roll bar
the manual rack will weigh exactly what ur stock rack weighs, the 30# weight savings is from removing the pump, lines, and fluid
if u do everything mentioned above, i bet u will take 200 pounds off the car, but u will add 80 pounds of rollbar, but u will gain 10-15hp up top with the removal of the PS drag on the belt
so its a weight savings of 120, but u are talking almost 200 pounds off the front and adding 80 pounds just infront of the back tires and adding chassis stiffness
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72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by blind:
yea I noticed the ARP bolts on the heads and wondered what was up...
the engine still runs great
it may be a stock motor, but with the underdrive pullies, a/c delete, smog pump bypass, electric fan, and manual rack it doesn't have that much load except to send the power to the wheels
it will be getting GT-40 heads and an edelbrock performer intake and the longtube headers will go back on after I smog it
i dont even think the head gasket blew, the car was having overheating problems, but when we did the HG it seemed fine, i think it was mainly because the radiator was plugged
if i remember we put in a better radiator that wasnt pluged, new t stat, and HG, and the car got to temp at about 185
kasey drove that car from sac all the way to fairfield open longtube header to get the gears done, and after all that we couldnt do it because of a bolt, so he had it done a week later
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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i got a manual rack from autozone for a 85 mustang or so and put it on my 89 and it feels just the same as my budys who has a flaming river but at 300 dollars less and i dont even have the skinnies up front yet i vote for a autozone rack
Posts: 1021 | From: sac | Registered: Jun 2003
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TheBrain
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Originally posted by blind:
I've got a flaming river rack on my coupe
its a little hard to turn when the car is sitting in one spot, but I think it looks really good installed.
Ditto, Although mine is in my 'vert
I actually like the feel of the manual rack WAY better than the power rack when it comes to being sideways on the track, the steering input is much more positive and I am 100% sure I would have tagged the wall @ Sac the last time I was squeezing out of the hole if it hadn't been for the Flaming River manual rack !!!!
I bought a 20:1 rack from a guy on this board, but when I picked it up, it turned out to be the 15:1
I have skinnies (on Welds, happy Mr. Go Fast?) and it isn't bad at all even from a dead stop
Good Luck
Brian
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10.227 @ 134.59 1.41 60ft 200 shot 3600lbs
2003 Ranger 4 door
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MR GO FAST
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Originally posted by TheBrain:
I have skinnies (on Welds, happy Mr. Go Fast?)
hell yeah ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Posts: 3729 | From: ATWATER/SANJO/RWC | Registered: Nov 2002
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TheBrain
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Originally posted by MR GO FAST:
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Originally posted by TheBrain:
I have skinnies (on Welds, happy Mr. Go Fast?)
hell yeah
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11.662 @ 116.65 1.57 60ft. N/A
10.227 @ 134.59 1.41 60ft 200 shot 3600lbs
2003 Ranger 4 door
15.99 @ 87
Posts: 1264 | From: Back in Redding CA | Registered: Jul 2000
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Fostang
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So how many turns is it lock to lock with the slow ration rack?
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67' Fastback TT 408
67' Camaro Lsx
64' Corvette Fuelie
57' Chevy Bel Air Lsx
68’ Pony Convertible
66’ Pony Coupe
Posts: 3013 | From: Stockton/Danville | Registered: Nov 2003
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TheBrain
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Originally posted by Fostang:
So how many turns is it lock to lock with the slow ration rack?
The "standard" ratio Flaming river rack
Part #FR1503 is 3.75:1 lock to lock
Quick ratio Flaming River rack
Part #FR1520 is 3.3:1 lock to lock
I got this info from here
Brian
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1989 LX vert 342
11.662 @ 116.65 1.57 60ft. N/A
10.227 @ 134.59 1.41 60ft 200 shot 3600lbs
2003 Ranger 4 door
15.99 @ 87
Posts: 1264 | From: Back in Redding CA | Registered: Jul 2000
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Fostang
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Well that aint too bad.
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67' Fastback TT 408
67' Camaro Lsx
64' Corvette Fuelie
57' Chevy Bel Air Lsx
68’ Pony Convertible
66’ Pony Coupe
Posts: 3013 | From: Stockton/Danville | Registered: Nov 2003
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