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Posted by five-0 (Member # 3513) on :
 
Hey I'm wondering what company makes the best clutch?

I was thinking of getting a ford racing king cobra clutch.
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe I don't have a fast car (Member # 895) on :
 
it depends on your application if you are not that fast but have some mods then I would suggest a king Cobra Clutch. I had it and it was great!
 

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Posted by the50ho (Member # 73) on :
 
yeah, I ran several king cobra clutches on my old fox and LOVED them...

I'm going with a spec stage 3 on this car soon though
 

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Posted by five-0 (Member # 3513) on :
 
How about ram clutches ? Are they any good? Horse power around 400.
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe I don't have a fast car (Member # 895) on :
 
ram clutchs are really good but I think you need the billet flywheel, so thats just another cost but they are really good clutchs!
 

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Posted by five-0 (Member # 3513) on :
 
For the ram clutch would I have to get a new quad link cable?
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe I don't have a fast car (Member # 895) on :
 
I don't think so but its always something nice to have an adjustable clutch cable
 

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Posted by five-0 (Member # 3513) on :
 
thanks
 

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Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
DO NOT USE A RAM CLUTCH, THEY SUCK. Use only the best MCLEOD. I run that clutch and its next to nothing
 

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Posted by the50ho (Member # 73) on :
 
too each thier own, but I'm also not a big fan of Ram clutches.

Get a spec and you wont regret.......hey wait....that ryhmed...I think i May call spec and tell themn I want to work on thier advertising team
 

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Posted by MR GO FAST (Member # 2088) on :
 
Go with Spec. I will be installing my Spec 1 this weekend that i got from Jim at fourvalve.com I have a 86 Gt that will be getting gears and an off road very soon.
 

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Posted by Sean90GT (Member # 33) on :
 
Well if you are putting out 400hp then I would not suggest the King Cobra. Look at a SPEC Stage II or III depending on the street manners you are looking for.

I am only making a little over 300hp and did this to my King Cobra:



The friggin' thing exploded on me on the freeway shifting to fourth (at about 5500 RPM). I now have a SPEC Stage II and am very happy with it. It has the same pedal feel as the King Cobra (a little stiff), grabs nicely and is rated up to 475HP.
 

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Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
I love my centerforce DF clutch. A little stiff, but it has never slipped, and its been through 2 motors.
 

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Posted by five-0 (Member # 3513) on :
 
ok no king cobra
 

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Posted by five-0 (Member # 3513) on :
 
For the spec stage 2 clutch would I need a new flywheel?
 

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Posted by Sean90GT (Member # 33) on :
 

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Originally posted by five-0:
For the spec stage 2 clutch would I need a new flywheel?

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Originally posted by Sean90GT:

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Originally posted by five-0:
For the spec stage 2 clutch would I need a new flywheel?

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No. I am running the FMS flywheel which is basically the stock replacement. Just make sure that yours is smooth or have it turned.

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Just what Ram clutch are you people not liking? I ran a Ram 900 for a long time with NO problems. And we are talking HUNDREDS of passes and 10's of THOUSANDS of miles with no problems.

Spec on the other hand.....

Spec is the perfict examle of a poor product getting enough internet hype that it somehow becomes the "top of the line". Spec products are VERY hit and miss, I would say that about 1 in every 5 clutch kits they sell actually has a throwout bearing that DOESN'T squeel and about 7 out of 10 of there clutches DO NOT live up to there rating, thats if they work at all. I have delt with more than my fair share of Spec products and I have to say that I will NEVER use any of there stuff on a vehical I own or work on ever again.

You can listen to those who sit and read message borads all day or you can listen to those who have already done the things you have questions about. Your choice.

Just my .02

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holy jesus...so glad I just bought a spec clutch from you
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
stage 3 spec

sqeeek pop pop pop going while in first gear and taking off.

Definatly now how I want to impress the ladies.
 

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Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on :
 

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Originally posted by the50ho:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Just what Ram clutch are you people not liking? I ran a Ram 900 for a long time with NO problems. And we are talking HUNDREDS of passes and 10's of THOUSANDS of miles with no problems.

Spec on the other hand.....

Spec is the perfict examle of a poor product getting enough internet hype that it somehow becomes the "top of the line". Spec products are VERY hit and miss, I would say that about 1 in every 5 clutch kits they sell actually has a throwout bearing that DOESN'T squeel and about 7 out of 10 of there clutches DO NOT live up to there rating, thats if they work at all. I have delt with more than my fair share of Spec products and I have to say that I will NEVER use any of there stuff on a vehical I own or work on ever again.

You can listen to those who sit and read message borads all day or you can listen to those who have already done the things you have questions about. Your choice.

Just my .02

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holy jesus...so glad I just bought a spec clutch from you

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Posted by 98slowhoe I don't have a fast car (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by the50ho:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Just what Ram clutch are you people not liking? I ran a Ram 900 for a long time with NO problems. And we are talking HUNDREDS of passes and 10's of THOUSANDS of miles with no problems.

Spec on the other hand.....

Spec is the perfict examle of a poor product getting enough internet hype that it somehow becomes the "top of the line". Spec products are VERY hit and miss, I would say that about 1 in every 5 clutch kits they sell actually has a throwout bearing that DOESN'T squeel and about 7 out of 10 of there clutches DO NOT live up to there rating, thats if they work at all. I have delt with more than my fair share of Spec products and I have to say that I will NEVER use any of there stuff on a vehical I own or work on ever again.

You can listen to those who sit and read message borads all day or you can listen to those who have already done the things you have questions about. Your choice.

Just my .02

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holy jesus...so glad I just bought a spec clutch from you

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that one is actaully one of the 7 out of 10 that works. your in luck.
 

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Posted by the50ho (Member # 73) on :
 
okay wtf....

What clutch do I need to buy at this point?
 

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Posted by Rev Happy (Member # 661) on :
 
To be honest, my SPEC has been good to me with absolutely no problems... Clutch grabs hard and is silky smooth during normal driving... I guess I'm in the 30%... When I first installed it, the TO bearing was a bit noisy, but now the noise is basically gone...

Mcleod clutches are the best out there period IMHO... That will be my next clutch.... But overall, I'm happy with my SPEC...

[ February 18, 2004, 03:47 PM: Message edited by: Rev Happy ]
 

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Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
OK these are the clutches i have been through.
Stock clutch ~ broke after i powershited.
ford motorsport cluch~ broke downshifting on the freeway.
Ram clutch ~ slipped like a bit** would not take any power.
Mcleod ~ The best clutch i have owned and will never by another one the customer service is really good too. If you need any help talk to Les at Mcleod. I am yet to hear one dissatisfied Mcleod customer. Most of my friends use mcloed also.
 

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Posted by five-0 (Member # 3513) on :
 
Mcleod clutch any one have a website?
 

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Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
this is there website.
http://www.mcleodind.com/

I Personaly have been to mcleod since they are 5 min from me and the quality is next to none. My car drive so smooth with the clutch and it has never slipped.
I would order mine from FPS (Ford performance solutions) they are a Mcleod dealer. HERE IS THERE NUMBER (714)773-9027 and (714)773-9028 Talk to Vince if you can and he will lead you the right way. They also sell a cable/quadrant/ firewall adjuster kit for around $90 bucks.
 

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Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
Oh BTW have you ever seen a video of the fastest 5 speed driven car? If not look at this link. Look at the red coupe. And guess what clutch they use in that car? Mcleod!

http://www.x2cmotorsports.com/X2CMovies/
 

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Posted by 9lbpony (Member # 3510) on :
 
Interesting. I, on the other hand, have 60k miles on my King Cobra clutch in a car that makes 430/460 at the wheels and it feels just as good as it always did. Pedal effort is a little more then I'd like.
 

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Posted by MR GO FAST (Member # 2088) on :
 
I find it amazing how people blame most problems on the clutch. Input shaft play, throw out bearing, how the flywheel was surfaced and trans to bell housing alignment all play into how long/how well a clutch last(and performs).
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
A clutch also performs better if the car is sitting on welds.
 

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Posted by MR GO FAST (Member # 2088) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fostang:
A clutch also performs better if the car is sitting on welds.

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we'll see tomorrow when I pick mine up tomorrow
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 

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Originally posted by Rev Happy:
To be honest, my SPEC has been good to me with absolutely no problems... Clutch grabs hard and is silky smooth during normal driving... I guess I'm in the 30%... When I first installed it, the TO bearing was a bit noisy, but now the noise is basically gone...

Mcleod clutches are the best out there period IMHO... That will be my next clutch.... But overall, I'm happy with my SPEC...

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I went through 2 King Cobra's they were both great clutches...I've also been through Centerforce and those were a pile of shit...

I have had NO problem with my SPEC II clutch...IMHO its the best clutch that I've ever felt on a Mustang..I just talked to the guy who now owns my 94 with the SPEC II and he thinks its the greatest too!...

Drew~Last time I saw you at the track, you said how good the SPEC was and you wished you had put one on your car instead of the Ram...Although that was probably over a year and a half ago ...Like I said, I've had no problems with my SPEC, but if you've had some problems what were they(specifically)??.....Have you installed 10 SPEC clutches or just driven cars with 10 SPEC's?...I've driven cars with brand new clutches and they feel like shit, just cuase of a bad install...I know you know your shit, but this is the first thing I've ever heard bad about the SPEC brand....I plan on doing a SPEC stage II and T5 conversion on my Merk, so any info is appriciated...

Thanx Rob
 

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Posted by Bill/APEX Motorsports (Member # 636) on :
 
Don't forget us! Our APEX Dual Kevlar clutch has been used by hundreds of customers, from drag racing supercharged Mustangs to road racing '00 Cobra Rs.

We've had it up to 800hp and 8,500rpm, yet it's still extremely streetable. It will also last quite a bit longer than other brands.
We have them for standard or fine-spline input shafts.
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Kits come with Dual Kevlar disk, specific pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing, and alignment tool.
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[ February 19, 2004, 02:35 PM: Message edited by: Bill/APEX Motorsports ]
 

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