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Topic: which thermostat? 160,180,195,or none.........
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gercolla1
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My mods are h/c/i and rebuit radiator and stock fan on a fox. ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
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wilit
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For the most power, you should run a 160. For the most longevity of the motor, you think of a 180 or 190. The proper operating temp for a SBF is 190-210, anything lower, and the wear in the cylinders and to the pistons/rings increases.
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Jeff S
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Originally posted by st5150:
180
Agreed... this may be a first! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Stimson
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Probably ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
In all honesty, I don't think a thermostat makes that much of a difference as far as engine wear goes. A 180 thermo was the first mod I did to my car.... ~110,000 miles ago. I install a 160 thermo when I go to the track to keep the engine cooler between passes. I toss the stock 190 thermo back in every 2 years for SMOG.
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DropTopFox
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I'm about to toss in a 160 for charging reason, I think it will make my fan opperate differently and then I won't hae to worry about shutting the fan on and off ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Stimson
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What you need is a 3G alternator upgrade. If you have one already, you need the over drive alternator pulley from Auto Specialties.
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1SLOWLX
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180
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Stimson
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Originally posted by wilit:
Don't you think if the engineers at Ford had intended you to use a 160° thermostat, it would have come from the factory with a 160° thermostat? Read any automotive text book, you'll find 80% of engine wear comes from driving during warm-up.
Hell, I don't think that the engineers at Ford intended for me to stick in a 5 speed and chirp the 1-2 shift every day, 250,000 miles later
Think about it for a second:
"Read any automotive text book, you'll find 80% of engine wear comes from driving during warm-up."
It does not matter if you have a 160,180,190 or 290 degree thermostat durring warm up. The first ~10 minutes of operation the thermostat will be closed regardless.
Can you give me 5 links on how synthetic oil will make my engine last longer, because after a quarter million miles of 99cents per quart oil and 180/160 thermostats, I better start changing my ways and figuring out how to get some durability out of this 302
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94gt
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Well, when I 1st bought my 94gt, It had a 160deg thermo in it, and boy, oh boy it kept getting up to the "A" and the "L" on me, bad news... So, JohnB suggested that I check and see if I had an stock one or not, and if not swap that out... well I ended putting in a stock replacement, and it helped aLOT.
but then a week later my water pump started to fail... lol. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Posts: 5777 | From: Beavercreek, OH | Registered: Jul 2003
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Blue Oval
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I say 180 works best for me.but my other 89 has a 195 i think and it works great too. i had a 160 in it but it didnt like it much.my gas milage dropped.
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Posts: 2345 | From: Sacramento | Registered: Mar 2003
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wilit
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Originally posted by st5150:
"Read any automotive text book, you'll find 80% of engine wear comes from driving during warm-up."
It does not matter if you have a 160,180,190 or 290 degree thermostat durring warm up. The first ~10 minutes of operation the thermostat will be closed regardless.
I know the thermostat isn't open for the first ten minutes. The point I was trying to make about the engine wear during start up is the fact the engine is not up to the proper operating temperature (190°-210°).
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siri95
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okay okay, after reading all this.. send me to the right store to change my t-stat. im runing 160. and all of u guys make me want to get 180. so, wheres the nearest store and what should i get. and how much does it cost to put in.. cause i dont have the tools to do it.. thanks
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Posts: 783 | From: 510 | Registered: May 2003
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Originally posted by siri95:
okay okay, after reading all this.. send me to the right store to change my t-stat. im runing 160. and all of u guys make me want to get 180. so, wheres the nearest store and what should i get. and how much does it cost to put in.. cause i dont have the tools to do it.. thanks
Kragens has them for $8 and buy the gaskets.. Two bolts it comes right off.. Make sure to drain half or radiator and check if top hose is empty then get to work...Should take 5-10 minz..
I NEVER done it but my boy did it in his and it seemed easy! Im getting 180 tomorrow from Kragens
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Posts: 6501 | From: San Bruno | Registered: Sep 2002
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Stimson
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Originally posted by siri95:
okay okay, after reading all this.. send me to the right store to change my t-stat. im runing 160. and all of u guys make me want to get 180. so, wheres the nearest store and what should i get. and how much does it cost to put in.. cause i dont have the tools to do it.. thanks
Do you have a chip turning on your electric fan sooner? If not, on '94+ stangs, a cooler thermostat with out a chip will only make your car take longer to warm up and make your car run cooler while cruising above ~40 mph.
Napa thermostat gaskets are my fave because they have a sticker on one side that holds the thermostat in place.
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siri95
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Originally posted by st5150:
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Originally posted by siri95:
okay okay, after reading all this.. send me to the right store to change my t-stat. im runing 160. and all of u guys make me want to get 180. so, wheres the nearest store and what should i get. and how much does it cost to put in.. cause i dont have the tools to do it.. thanks
Do you have a chip turning on your electric fan sooner? If not, on '94+ stangs, a cooler thermostat with out a chip will only make your car take longer to warm up and make your car run cooler while cruising above ~40 mph.
Napa thermostat gaskets are my fave because they have a sticker on one side that holds the thermostat in place.
i think ill get an 180*... its just i dont want anything bad happen to my car... seems to me 180* will make my car last longer.. rahter than my 160*
and is there a website i can seee..on how to put a thermostat on??
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Stimson
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Don't worry about the 160* making your motor "die" sooner. Think about it for a bit and then do a search if need be....... When was the last time you heard of a 5.O dying due to a thermostat???? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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wilit
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Originally posted by st5150:
Don't worry about the 160* making your motor "die" sooner. Think about it for a bit and then do a search if need be....... When was the last time you heard of a 5.O dying due to a thermostat????
Yeah, I hope our discussion has scared the crap out of you. It won't explode after 3 days of driving with a 160° thermostat. It's the über-long term affects you have to think about.
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cobraracer46
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195 is the way to go.
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Posts: 1172 | From: Woodside California | Registered: Apr 2002
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