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66 AC COBRA
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does anyone have a csi or other type of electric water pump on a car with some decent mileage, any horror stories, im guessing the cooling was fine all the time, just tryin to get some info
its not my daily, it will see maybe 2k miles a year

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i have no problems with mine [Whoo Whooooo!]

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I've heard that they flow like complete crap and that a stock water pump outflows them in a MAJOR way!

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeff S:
I've heard that they flow like complete crap and that a stock water pump outflows them in a MAJOR way!

Wow your the only one that I have ever heard say that. I am also considering an elec water pump but first need to do a 3g upgrade and battery relocation with cutoff switch.

What are the better elec water pumps out there?

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If you do run one, hook up a warning light to your temp guage.

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66 AC COBRA
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quote:
Originally posted by Primer GR40:
If you do run one, hook up a warning light to your temp guage.

i was going to do that anyway with my motor, cant be too cautuious

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shade-tree has a few horror stories [patriot]
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I bought the cheapy moroso piggy-back-your-stock water pump and spent 5 hours on the side of the road waiting for AAA after a friday night test-n-tune at Sac, made it back just past the richmond bridge (doing around 100) and it frags itself and flies apart. didn't have the right parts to return to stock.

I figured I was going to get shot/mugged/stabbed out there [Razz]

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66 AC COBRA
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quote:
Originally posted by shade-:
I bought the cheapy moroso piggy-back-your-stock water pump and spent 5 hours on the side of the road waiting for AAA after a friday night test-n-tune at Sac, made it back just past the richmond bridge (doing around 100) and it frags itself and flies apart. didn't have the right parts to return to stock.

I figured I was going to get shot/mugged/stabbed out there [Razz]

i was hopping u had a horror story about the shitty ad on ones
yeah im gonna get a csi or meizer pump, the ones that replace what u already have, shit i could carry a belt, a stock stock pump, 2 wrenches, and a gallon of water and change it on the side of the road in 10 miuntes [Big Grin]

anyone with a csi pump or meizer pump

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Those piggy back water pump things are not ideal for street use. I have heard horror stories about those ones. I have never heard horror stories about the CSI/Mezeire pumps. I want one too. I would be interested in seeing the flow comparisons between a stock style HP one and an electric one. [patriot]
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66 AC COBRA
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edelbrock victor pump
that is flow data from edeldbrocks victor circle track water pump, how much more does the curcle track pump mpre than a reagular victor pump i dont know

but csi claims 36gpm, so at cruise speeds or at idle the electric watre pump outflows a pulley driven pump [Whoo Whooooo!]

at idle would be the most benefit from a electric pump i would guess, 20 gpm vs 36gpm for the elctric

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I looked into them for a while and heard no complaints about them keeping the car cool, Shit when you have a crank pulley as small as mine an electric pump is probablly better! The only bad thing is they are only rated for so many hours but with as much driving as you plan on doing you will be fine.

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66 AC COBRA
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csi claims 3600 hours on the water seals, and i can get the water seals for $5 because of my dads business, and i know how to change them since i have done it before
csi says the motors are good for 50,000 miles in a daily driven car [Eek!] , i dont know if i beleive that but electric motors usually last a good amount of time, and if not i know the guy who owns Electric Motor Service in walnut creek so i guess he could just rebuild it for me [Big Grin]

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My buddy has a meizer on his LX ,with no problems.

It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.

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i keep hearing about this "3g" upgrade.
please explain...thanks!

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66 AC COBRA
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quote:
Originally posted by castor:
i keep hearing about this "3g" upgrade.
please explain...thanks!

3g upgrade is a high amp alternator

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quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE:
quote:
Originally posted by castor:
i keep hearing about this "3g" upgrade.
please explain...thanks!

3g upgrade is a high amp alternator
I see...does this eliminate the harness to catch on fire? i think this is what i've heard.
if so, how much does this cost and where would i be able to parts?

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How-to:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2001/03/paperformance/index.shtml

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quote:
Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
How-to:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2001/03/paperformance/index.shtml

thanks

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quote:
Originally posted by FORDNUT:
It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.

Can you explain why on earth you'd remove your t-stat? Was this a track car?

Castor - here's a how to article on the 3G upgrade. http://www.racesystems.com/3gproj/index.htm I'm not sure sure if you can get onto that fordmuscle link...it makes me sign in there.

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Damn! That article was supposed to be unlocked. Sorry.
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quote:
Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
Damn! That article was supposed to be unlocked. Sorry.

damnit jim ur slackin, no pun intended on ur SN [Razz]
whats the status on the green machine, do u have a tranny yet that u can thrash

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quote:
Originally posted by 88gt:
quote:
Originally posted by FORDNUT:
It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.

Can you explain why on earth you'd remove your t-stat? Was this a track car?

you would remove it so there is no pumping restriction in the engine [Roll Eyes]

it moves more water than the internatl bypass can flow... and what if you blocked the bypass hose..... well then the water dead heads at the water pump.... not good


i dont have a thermostat in the camaro.. runs fine right at about 165 or so... it i get on it like for hella long, it gets to 190 then cools down very quickly, and with the electric fan and water pump, it cools off in like 3 minutes with the engine off [dance]

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good shit
while at the drag strip i can turn the fan and pump on and cool the car off for the next run, sweet [Whoo Whooooo!]

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quote:
Originally posted by 88gt:
quote:
Originally posted by FORDNUT:
It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.

Can you explain why on earth you'd remove your t-stat? Was this a track car?

Castor - here's a how to article on the 3G upgrade. http://www.racesystems.com/3gproj/index.htm I'm not sure sure if you can get onto that fordmuscle link...it makes me sign in there.

[patriot]

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