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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,13,22,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i think im going to start looking for a 351 roller shortblcok this weekend. any tips on finding a good shortblock? where exactly should i be looking? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE</b> <br /><small>Member # 904</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,13,22,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> looking for a roller shortblock, thats gonna be hard to find, i dont know what u have to spend, but 04parksrider has a s-351 roller block with the rotating assembly for 800 unassembled <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>BOTTLED.LX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3267</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,13,22,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> YOU SHOULD LOOK FOR THE 1969-1970 BLOCKS I HEAR THERE STRONGER THAN OTHER YEAR BLOCKS HOPE THIS HELPED <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,13,22,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> thanks for the replies, but that means i have to spend more money to turn it over to a roller block. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,14,8,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I paid $200 for my 351 core (its a 70 block), and another $1800 for the stroker kit (scat crank/rods and probe pistons) and assembly including machining for the dogbones and spider. 2 grand for basically the Keith Craft 393 Econo-Stroker shortblock is pretty good in my opinion. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,14,20,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i have a question guys. i was going to try and find a 351 roller block.Are the other 351 blocks flattappet or solid roller? i beleive they are flat tappet. i will be driving this car on the street so i want it reliable. can i do that with a flat tappet? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>ON N2O</b> <br /><small>Member # 2067</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,7,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 93mustangt:<br /><strong> i have a question guys. i was going to try and find a 351 roller block.Are the other 351 blocks flattappet or solid roller? i beleive they are flat tappet. i will be driving this car on the street so i want it reliable. can i do that with a flat tappet? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ya every single v8 engine built before the 90's had flat tappet... even those muscle car things that made over 450 horsepower back in the 70's <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>cheap</b> <br /><small>Member # 858</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,8,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ON N2O:<br /><strong> ya every single v8 engine built before the 90's had flat tappet...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">so you're saying that an '89 5.0 was flat-tappet as well? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,10,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 93mustangt:<br /><strong> i have a question guys. i was going to try and find a 351 roller block.Are the other 351 blocks flattappet or solid roller? i beleive they are flat tappet. i will be driving this car on the street so i want it reliable. can i do that with a flat tappet? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">351 roller blocks from I learned are somewhat rare. you would either have to go aftermarket which is expensive, or find one from a late model bronco, saleen, etc. etc. there is absolutely nothing wrong with flat tappet valvetrains -they are very reliable, relatively inexpensive, and if they are hydraulic -very low mainetenance. roller lifters are reusable, and generally speaking, they usually put out better results. and yes they are reliable as well. if you go roller -go solid. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,12,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> THANKS FOR THE REPLIES GUYS. THIS IS AN EVERYDAY DRIVER SO RELIABLITY IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE. IS A FLAT TAPPET MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD? OR WOULD A ROLLER? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,12,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> hydraulic flat tappet = cheap as fuck!<br /><br />they are equally reliable for a daily driver. naturally a roller setup is superior performance wise, and more expensive, but you can get a cam and lifter kit from summit for under $80. and they work just fine and are very reliable. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>cheap</b> <br /><small>Member # 858</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,13,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> PAW has a cam and lifter kit that closely resembles a B-cam for $99. Part # 10326. It's what Im gonna be putting in my 351 hyd flat-tappet block tomorrow. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>shade-</b> <br /><small>Member # 298</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,15,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> '69 is the year to get for the 351. I almost bought a cougar (non running) simply because it had a 351. should have bought it in hindsight (very cheap, non running) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,15,18,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Thanks for the responses. my biggest question is what harnesses/ electronics will i need for the swap? would i need more harnesses/ electronics if i were to use a flat tappet engine as apposed to a roller engine? i need everyone response because i want to do this as cheap and as smooth as it can be. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,16,10,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ttt <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE</b> <br /><small>Member # 904</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,16,11,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 93mustangt:<br /><strong> Thanks for the responses. my biggest question is what harnesses/ electronics will i need for the swap? would i need more harnesses/ electronics if i were to use a flat tappet engine as apposed to a roller engine? i need everyone response because i want to do this as cheap and as smooth as it can be. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">no, i had a lightning motor (roller block, b ut came with a flat tappet cam) in a 88 coupe, it was just like hookin up a 5.0 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,16,11,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> would i have any computer/ tuning problems with a flat tappet block? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,16,12,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> no. make sure you get the right distributor gear. there are already several posts in the tech section that address distributor gear choice.<br /> <br /> <small>[ October 16, 2003, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: Chosen1 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>04ParksRider</b> <br /><small>Member # 786</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,16,21,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <a href="http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=012278" target="_blank">http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=012278</a> <br />Comes with all internals, cam, lifters, and oil pan...<br />Willing to negotiate, pm me if interested <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ October 16, 2003, 09:55 PM: Message edited by: 04ParksRider ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,17,12,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> SORRY MAN I CAN GET THE WHOLE LONG BLOCK FOR CHEAPER THAN THAT. THANKS ANYWAYS <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,17,12,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Performance Engine & Products in Long Beach sells a 351W Shortblock (2 piece seal) with forged pistons for $752.00. They also sell one with a 1 piece seal for $771. Im looking at the ad right now.<br /><br />6110 Paramount Blvd<br />Long Beach, CA 90805 <br />888-770-4888<br /><br />You wont find anything "less expensive" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93mustangt</b> <br /><small>Member # 680</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,17,19,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> where are you looking at that ad? do they have a website. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>street_illegal_stang</b> <br /><small>Member # 1554</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,19,10,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Chosen1:<br /><strong> Performance Engine & Products in Long Beach sells a 351W Shortblock (2 piece seal) with forged pistons for $752.00. They also sell one with a 1 piece seal for $771. Im looking at the ad right now.<br /><br />6110 Paramount Blvd<br />Long Beach, CA 90805 <br />888-770-4888<br /><br />You wont find anything "less expensive" </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">holy shit thats fugin awesome man<br />do you recall ifs roller or solid?year?<br />and does it already come assembled?<br />are they any good? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,9,20,9,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Yes it is already assembled. I dont know about the quality, but for less than $800, you have a 351 shortblock. If something goes wrong you already have a block, crank, and pistons. My buddy bought a similar 351 from Larry's Performance in Montabello for $900, put some GT40's on it and went mid-high 13's in a 69 Mach 1. Just give them a call. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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