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Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
My next Mustang project is goint to be eather a 65-66 or 67 fastback. I want to run the 4.6 4v motor and up graded suspention wrapted in a shelby clone. I know it will fit in a 67 but what about a 65-66. Any info and pics if they exist would be great.
 
Posted by cobraman_1994 (Member # 467) on :
 
i think it will. but it will be a VERY tight fit. VERY VERY VERY tight [Eek!]
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
Thats just fine... At 18 you could care less if it is tight or not and now at 31 I look for it [Wink]
 
Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
gad damnit F the 4.6 and put a 351 or a 460 in the classic stang or seriously I might just jump out of the bushes and kick you in the nuts as hard as I can while you;re tryin to drop the motor in! [Mad] [Mad] [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
a 5.4 based mod swap and you won't need to wear a cup around me [Eek!]
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
Yeh I got a efi 5.8 around here but the 4.6 just isn't right in a old car and that is halt the fun!
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
And just what is the 5.4 How tall is it compaired to a 4.6 I would want to keep a stock type hood over it.
 
Posted by cobraman_1994 (Member # 467) on :
 
its a navigator motor. thats the best one to get.
but your problem wont be how tall it is, just the width
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
ok thanks for the info.. The 4.6 with a few mods would be ideal. Plenty of hp decent gas milage and extremly reliable. And mated to a 6spd would be a blast for a DD
 
Posted by cobraman_1994 (Member # 467) on :
 
im putting a 4.6 DOHC in my 86. i just like 305hp with a completly stock smogable motor [Big Grin]
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
I know what you mean. And once you put a few small mods you are about 350-400. Any one know the demention from out side of head to out side of head ( widest part) and also from CL of crank to top of motor and how much more for the SC 4.6's
 
Posted by 1 FLy5Oh (Member # 2425) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rokcrln:
Thats just fine... At 18 you could care less if it is tight or not and now at 31 I look for it [Wink]
HAHAHHAHAHAHA [worship] [worship] [dance] [Whoo Whooooo!] hahahahhahaha
 
Posted by 1 FLy5Oh (Member # 2425) on :
 
that gets a nother [worship] [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by rr_mustang (Member # 888) on :
 
I have seen a 460 wedged in a 66 if that helps.
btw, do you know the deck height of a 4.6?

[ June 05, 2003, 01:10 AM: Message edited by: rr_mustang ]
 
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
Im gonna go on a limb and say...IT WONT FIT unless you cut the shock towers. Go ahead and do it to a coupe. Dont hack a fastback.
 
Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
a 4.6 is wider than a 460, LMAO
 
Posted by KCmustangboy (Member # 1927) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shade-tree:
a 4.6 is wider than a 460, LMAO
well hey looking at the numbers they are the same right? 4.6 / 460 LMAO! maybe they will fit just the same!
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
Well I went by Maier racing to day and they have a bad a$$ project 65 fastback in the shop and I checked #'s. I will be going the route of a 5.0 SC'ed and not cut a fast back to hell and that is just about what it would take and still need a fat ass hood cowl to close. With the 5.0 I can fit it under a shelby hood. It will still be getting all new suspetion but just not cut to the extent a 4.6 would take. I will try and get some pics of their project and show you guys.
 
Posted by FORDNUT (Member # 2348) on :
 
I've seen a 4valve cobra motor in a 65 fastback at the goodguys show.

I talked to the owner and he said that all he did was install a rod and costom mustang 2 front end on it and the rest was the same as an 50 efi swap.

So to answer your question yes a 4.6 will fit...With a little mod.

also there's a 65 fastback with a mustang 2 front end all ready on it for sale on here.it's a friend of mine
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
did the one you saw have a stock hood or have to have a cowl hood?
 
Posted by FORDNUT (Member # 2348) on :
 
can't remember for sure but i think it was a stock hood because the mustang 2 front end if i'm not mistaken drops the cross member,motor sets lowwer.
 
Posted by -NORCALCOBRA- (Member # 2383) on :
 
let me know if you want a motor i have a 01 long block for 2500 brand new e mail me if you want pics
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
Thanks but I am still in the gathering info stage. I normaly run one project behind....(now only 3/4 behind)LOL And when I start I will find a doner car and get every piece at once.

[ June 06, 2003, 04:55 PM: Message edited by: rokcrln ]
 
Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
Any mod motor (4.6 or 5.4, SOHC or DOHC) but you need to install a Mustang II suspension package that will eliminate the shock towers. There are only a few problems. With the Mustang II front end the weight of your engine and the sprung weight of the front of the car is resting on a box of sheetmetal that is welded to 37 year old frame rails. In other words, it's not that strong. It would be ok for a weekend cruiser but I couldn't see that combination holding up too well on an open track or drag car. Also the motor would use EEC V. EEC V is more complex than EEC IV, but it is also easier to diagnose than EEC IV. It is doable, but you have to realize that you can get twice as much horsepower and torque from a Windsor more easily than a Mod motor.
 
Posted by rokcrln (Member # 2536) on :
 
As far as the frame rails that is not a problem, I will be doing a full cage tied into the front rails. As far as the motor I know you can built up almost any motor but I like the looks of the 4V's and it would be different being in a 65-66.
 




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