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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,17,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> What do you all think of thier work?<br />Do you see anything wrong w/the combo below? <br />Would I be better of going w/AFR205's and a demon carb.?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /> Tinner<br /><br />450 - 525HP 408 Ford stroker: Fully prepped & machined (cleaned, bored, honed, decked, align honed) 351W tall deck block fitted with ARP main bolts and new cam bearings, 4340 forged steel stroker crank, 6.25" 4340 forged steel H-beam rods fitted with huge 7/16" ARP bolts, JE/SRP forged super lite pistons with full floating wrist pins and plasma moly rings, Melling oil pump and hardened shaft, Special hardened main and rod bearings, new double row timing assembly, custom solid roller cam with after market light weight roller lifters, Edelbrock Victor Jr. aluminum heads, Chrome moly push rods and aluminum roller rockers, Fel-Pro gaskets, SCE race head gaskets, new nodular iron harmonic balancer and flex plate, Port matched Edelbrock Victor Jr. intake manifold. Holley 750 carb and billet MSD distributor. Engine is assembled with stainless steel bolts and comes fully balanced. $7.995 outright. Add one of our billet main supports for an extra $349.95<br /> <br /> <small>[ April 07, 2003, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: Tinner ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>1990GT50</b> <br /><small>Member # 2119</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,17,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> are you gonna stay all motor or do you want to add a power adder sometime? if so be sure you plan your compression accordingly. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,18,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Maybe a small shot later on. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>67stang12s</b> <br /><small>Member # 2314</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,18,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> im not sure about the afr 205s but the victor jrs are okay and it should be a 750 barry grant carb<br />i was wondering what is the compression ratio of the motor?<br />and a nice little 100 shot atleast youre forged you gotta do it <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,18,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I would guess around 10:1 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Jeff S</b> <br /><small>Member # 371</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,21,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> What is the purpose of the car(drag racing, street/strip, roadracing)? How much REAR WHEEL horsepower are you looking for? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>racercosmo</b> <br /><small>Member # 1864</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,22,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Arron is a good guy to work with. He built the motor for my old Chevy truck, and I didn't have any complaints. There is a girl that runs a 65 Mustang in the 10s at Sears Point with a 408 from Badass. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>st5150</b> <br /><small>Member # 51</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,7,23,18,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The guy knows more about building small block fords than any of us so I'd listen to him.<br /><br />As for the AFR vs Edelbrock victor debate..... here is the local run down from what I've seen. Someone correct me if I'm wrong <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />Pretty much all the all motor 10 second local small block fords run the edelbrock victor series heads <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" /> <br /><br />Pretty much all the local internet guys that talk about a motor they're building ten (10) years from now plan to run AFR205's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,14,17,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The car will be used for street/strip I would be happy w/ any thing above 425 rwhp. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Jeff S</b> <br /><small>Member # 371</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,14,18,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Tinner,<br /><br />If you are only are looking for a 425-450rwhp street/strip combo there is absolutely no reason for a solid roller cam. I'd go with a hydraulic roller. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,22,16,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Here is an estimate from a shop I was told "they are expensive but they do really good work and they stand behind their work". <br /><br /> ALL PART TO BE TOP OF THE LINE<br /><br /> PARTS<br /><br />forged crank,h-beam rods,forged pistons,<br />race bearings and rings---------------$2000<br />core engine ---------------$250 <br />AFR or Brodix track1's complete ------$1700<br />roller rocker set---------------------$295<br />moly pushrods-------------------------$120<br />lower end gasket set------------------$26<br />fel pro perf. head gaskets------------$78<br />fp-18 cam bearings h.p.---------------$22<br />flat tappet cam and lifter kit--specs to be discussed ---add $500 for roller kit-$200<br />hex adjust timing set-----------------$180<br />brass freeze plug kit-----------------$12<br />m84hv oil pump and drive--------------$48<br />sfi approved balancer-----------------$200 <br />Vic jr intake manifold----------------$300<br />misc. ARP fasteners-------------------$200<br /><br />BALANCE V-8---------------------------$185-400<br /><br />BORE & HONE V-8-----------------------$150<br /><br />ASSEMBLE LONG BLOCK -- TIN EXTRA -----$350<br /><br /> LABOR<br /><br />releive block for strocker crank------$125<br />r&r piston set------------------------$55<br />press off and heat and assemble<br />degree camshaft-----------------------$65<br />hot tank block------------------------$95<br />resuface common v-8 block-------------$85<br />file fit rings------------------------$65<br />sales tax-----------------------------$425.18<br /><br /> TOTAL $7,269<br /><br />What do you all think????????<br /> <br /> <small>[ April 22, 2003, 04:26 PM: Message edited by: Tinner ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,22,19,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Have Bayshore Racing Engines build you a motor. Give them a call and a projected budget amount and they will build you something wicked!!! I am wiling to bet that they are superior dollar for dollar. Lots of local people on this board have gone through Bayshore. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,22,19,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Where are they located? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,22,19,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Has any one herd of Paul's Empire Head ? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,23,12,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Tinner:<br /><strong>Where are they located?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Bayshore Racing Engines is at 301 Barneveld in San Francisco. Call and talk to Dave. He is the owner and KNOWS HIS SHIT!!! Very Cool Guy! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>ONELOWSPLITBUMPR ON N2O ANDONELOWLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 2067</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,23,12,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Chosen1:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Tinner:<br /><strong>Where are they located?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Bayshore Racing Engines is at 301 Barneveld in San Francisco. Call and talk to Dave. He is the owner and KNOWS HIS SHIT!!! Very Cool Guy!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">415-647-9575.... <img border="0" alt="[Whoo Whooooo!]" title="" src="graemlins/woowoo.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Tinner</b> <br /><small>Member # 2688</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,23,15,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Do you think it is worth the time to buy the parts myself and have a shop put all together? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2003,3,23,20,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I wouldnt buy any parts until you know EXACTLY what you want your motor to do, and you have an idea of how much money you are willing to spend. Call Bayshore!!! <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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