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Topic: Shelby All Aluminum 427 Engine
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DropTopFox
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I want the engine that they are putting into those supersnakes. I just have a few quick questions. First off does anyone know how much they cost? Second, how much power does it make without the blower? and third what would I need to do to my car for it to fit(95 gt)? Damn those new GT500's are tight ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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Posts: 4003 | From: San Bruno | Registered: Aug 2002
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Stimson
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Taking a step back.... what is your goal?
If you want to say "I have an aluminum 427 under the hood", then you're on the right path.
If your goal is XXX HP, then there are much more cheaper and proven ways of achieving it.
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Chris M.
Ignore me, all I do is argue online!
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i saw a build up of one on like hot rod tv or something without a blower and it only made like 500 or 600 hp and they said it was something like 50-60k. I'm thinking that 1000 hp blown engine is like 80k. Shelby isn't cheap.
if you're talking about something different than me then ignore this post. actually ignore it anyway because there is not one absolute fact in it.
Posts: 2828 | From: West Bay, CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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JoeT
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is that the side-oiler 427 all aluminum SOHC 'cammer' 427? That's a collectors piece!
427 buildups (wrathofZ06 here did one) come in under 10k and I believe he would've been making ~ 700 HP or more with AFR 205's, big cam, big carb, big intake. That's with a beefy motorsport block and all the right forged internals.
You could 'cheap' a 427 E4TE casted production hyd-roller block complete (heads/longblock/carb/pan/headers) for probably about $6K and be in the 500 HP range and on the verge of danger but still a lot more durable than a 500 HP 302!
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Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001
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Chris M.
Ignore me, all I do is argue online!
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shade tree, are you talking 427 fe or 427 stroked small block?
the 427 i'm talking about is not the sohc 427... however they did use roller cam berrings on the camshaft.
Posts: 2828 | From: West Bay, CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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v8toyota
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Its a good idea but probably not very feasable to stick one of shelby's 427 side oiler copies in a 95 gt, tons of fab work would have to be done. Plus it wouldn't pass smog at all (the 427 side oiler is a 1960's engine). I think they are 30K + , you can make much more or equal power with much less money if you stick with a windsor or mod motor.
Posts: 13 | From: Rocklin | Registered: Feb 2002
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DropTopFox
drama
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I'm talking about the Fe. I am not going for numbers, I just want the shelby 427 fe engine because it is the whole basis for the concept of my car that I am trying to build. I don't really care how much money it costs, I'm not looking to do this right away obviously. I'm just looking for a ball park figure here and want to know if it is definately possible that it could be swapped in with any amount of work neccessary. Thanks for the info.
Ryan ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
[ December 13, 2002, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: PseudoCobra ]
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Posts: 4003 | From: San Bruno | Registered: Aug 2002
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Chris M.
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where are the prices?
Posts: 2828 | From: West Bay, CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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FasterDamnit
Bad Attitude
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Maybe in the link on the left that says "order engine components"? maybe.
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Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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FasterDamnit
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quote:
Originally posted by PseudoCobra:
no it doesn't give any prices however int eh article it says the black goes for $5,000 and the heads for $1890
CLICK THE LINK! Or do yo u need me to hold your hand so you don't get lost?
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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FasterDamnit
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Since you geniuses are incapable of navigating a web page, here you go.
PN# Description Price Quantity
CS01002 Shelby aluminum block $5,150.00
CSA3000 Head studs (required for Shelby alloy block) $350.00
CSA2000 Shelby aluminum cylinder heads (complete) $2,175.00
CS02002 Shelby aluminum cylinder heads (bare) $1,675.00
N/A Stage II porting $375.00
CS02020 Shelby stainless roller rocker arms $1,120.00
CS03000 Shelby billet crankshaft $2,700.00
CS02026 Shelby dual plane intake manifold $455.00
CS0… Shelby single plane intake manifold Available late 2002
CS03057 Shelby aluminum water pump $190.00
CS03036 Shelby timing cover $120.00
CS03038 Shelby rocker covers $165.00
CS02008 Rough duty stainless valves intake $159.00
CS02009 Rough duty stainless valves exhaust $159.00
CS02010 Valve springs (endurance) $131.00
CS02015 Valve springs seats $64.00
CS02011 Titanium retainers $98.00
CS02012 10-degree valve locks $58.00
CS02016 Valve stem seals $23.00
CS02022 Extreme duty stainless valves intake $280.00
CS02023 Extreme duty stainless valves exhaust $295.00
CS02014 Chromoly super 7 retainers $68.00
CS02013 Super 7 valve locks $45.00
CS03037 Push rods std. ball/cup $102.00
CS03028 Camshaft, solid or hydraulic $170.00
CS03031 Lifters $85.00
CS03029 Roller camshaft $310.00
CS030….. Roller lifters $425.00
CS020….. Roller cam valve springs, starting at: $285.00
CS03032 Dual roller timing set $85.00
CS03033 Hex-a-just true roller timing set $155.00
CS03009 Vibration damper $365.00
CS03008 Damper spacer $58.00
CS03050 Cobra road race "T" oil pan $575.00
CS03053 Remote oil filter adapter (billet) $58.00
CS03047 Oil pump $68.00
CS03049 Oil pump drive $22.00
CS03068 Distributor breakerless $225.00
CS04000 High torque super starter $300.00
CS03012 Billet Ford connecting rod $730.00
CS0 Billet stroker connecting rod $625.00
CS03013 Forged pistons (shelf) $555.00
CS03014 Forged pistons (custom or stroker) $655.00
CS03019 Piston Rings $135.00
CS03021 Main bearings $85.00
CS03024 Rod bearings $62.00
CSA1007 Alternator brakets $72.00
CS03062 Head gasket with pre-flattened o-ring $42.00
CS03063 Intake gasket, print-o-seal $27.00
CS03064 Oil pan gasket $18.00
CS03065 Rocker cover gasket $18.00
CS03061 Timing cover/seal set $35.00
CSA1….. Gasket set with 2 pan gaskets $200.00
CS01015 Cylinder sleeve 4.250 bore $113.00
CS03034 Camshaft thurst plate $25.00
Water Pump Pulley $115.00
Alternator Pulley $32.00
Bock to Head dowels $12.00
Drill for SOHC oil drains $175.00
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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67stang
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Um...fasterdamnit,
there is no TOTAL...like, uh, what does the whole engine cost? I didnt see a link titled "this is the total price of the engine" ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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quote:
Originally posted by shade-tree:
is that the side-oiler 427 all aluminum SOHC 'cammer' 427? That's a collectors piece!
427 buildups (wrathofZ06 here did one) come in under 10k and I believe he would've been making ~ 700 HP or more with AFR 205's, big cam, big carb, big intake. That's with a beefy motorsport block and all the right forged internals.
You could 'cheap' a 427 E4TE casted production hyd-roller block complete (heads/longblock/carb/pan/headers) for probably about $6K and be in the 500 HP range and on the verge of danger but still a lot more durable than a 500 HP 302!
Actually he had AFR 205's and a big cam (250/258, 664/665, 114) and yeah, I wonder what ever happened to that engine
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Posts: 1785 | From: Livermore | Registered: Jan 2002
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FasterDamnit
Bad Attitude
Member # 442
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quote:
Originally posted by 67stang:
Um...fasterdamnit,
there is no TOTAL...like, uh, what does the whole engine cost? I didnt see a link titled "this is the total price of the engine"
LMAO!
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Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
'65 Mustang 347
www.fordmuscle.com
Livin' in the Carolina Pines
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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CustomFastbackCA
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I looked into this engine before I bought my car. After all is said and done, you are looking between $15,000 to $20,000, depending on how crazy you get.
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Posts: 346 | From: Santa Clara | Registered: Jun 2002
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Chris M.
Ignore me, all I do is argue online!
Member # 1708
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quote:
Originally posted by 7.0L:
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Originally posted by shade-tree:
is that the side-oiler 427 all aluminum SOHC 'cammer' 427? That's a collectors piece!
427 buildups (wrathofZ06 here did one) come in under 10k and I believe he would've been making ~ 700 HP or more with AFR 205's, big cam, big carb, big intake. That's with a beefy motorsport block and all the right forged internals.
You could 'cheap' a 427 E4TE casted production hyd-roller block complete (heads/longblock/carb/pan/headers) for probably about $6K and be in the 500 HP range and on the verge of danger but still a lot more durable than a 500 HP 302!
Actually he had AFR 205's and a big cam (250/258, 664/665, 114) and yeah, I wonder what ever happened to that engine
gross 114 LDA???? was that the cam for the blower motor? or was that used of idle quality?
CustomFastbackCA, that's just parts right? or does that include labor too?
Posts: 2828 | From: West Bay, CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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88gt
Custom
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15-20k is parts only I believe.
Posts: 1482 | From: Santa Clara/Bay area | Registered: Nov 2001
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CustomFastbackCA
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just parts
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1967 GT Mustang Fastback (Eleanor)
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Posts: 346 | From: Santa Clara | Registered: Jun 2002
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Don
CAFords OG
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There isn't much left for us FE guys, but Dove makes an alum. block too. There is also supose to be a block from a company called Genises comming out soon. There is still lots of options if you are just looking to have that FE look. I am buying a cross-bolt kit for my 428 that give the block simalar strenght to a 427. This was Fords longest lasting production race engine so there is lots of old timers out there that can get you in the right direction.
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/74182
This is a great site that is full of helpfull info.
Posts: 962 | From: Manteca, CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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