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Posted by ash (Member # 1523) on
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any shop in the bay area carry super subs?
preferably KB's
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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Apex Motorsports carries Griggs subframes, Griggs racing carries... Griggs subframes and Miar racing carries Maximum Motorsport subframes (I think).
Posted by 99Red250 (Member # 1923) on
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If you know any one that can weld making them is like a 15 min job and installing is like 45 min.
They arent too complex.
Posted by ash (Member # 1523) on
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Originally posted by st5150:
Apex Motorsports carries Griggs subframes, Griggs racing carries... Griggs subframes and Miar racing carries Maximum Motorsport subframes (I think).
thanks, but apex will prolly charge me an assload for them. then theyll want me to buy evry other damn griggs product they have
ill look into maier racing
Posted by 88gt (Member # 579) on
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Originally posted by ash:
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Originally posted by st5150:
Apex Motorsports carries Griggs subframes, Griggs racing carries... Griggs subframes and Miar racing carries Maximum Motorsport subframes (I think).
thanks, but apex will prolly charge me an assload for them. then theyll want me to buy evry other damn griggs product they have
ill look into maier racing
I think that Apex is actually pretty reasonable when it comes to buying and installing the grigss sub frames from them. I think when i looked into it they quoted me a pretty fair price. It couldnt hurt to call
Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on
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Originally posted by ash:
any shop in the bay area carry super subs?
preferably KB's
Ash, i hate to break the news to you, but there is nothing super about kb subs. You need to look at a few cars with subs first, and youll see what im talking about. The road race guys seem to have a better grip in this area.
Posted by ash (Member # 1523) on
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is a 100 bucks a good price for install of subs? i had gone down to a muffler shop to see how much theyd quote me.
Posted by KCmustangboy (Member # 1927) on
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I would advise going to a shop that does a lot of subframes. Any of the above are good. Have the torque boxes welded too while they are at it.
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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Originally posted by ash:
is a 100 bucks a good price for install of subs? i had gone down to a muffler shop to see how much theyd quote me.
$100 to install them? Sounds like you called Apex
Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on
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Apex would probably have said $400, definitely not them, lol.
get griggs or Maximum motorsports. KB subs are the thinnest out there.
Posted by VortechSaleen (Member # 316) on
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Originally posted by 88gt:
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Originally posted by ash:
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Originally posted by st5150:
Apex Motorsports carries Griggs subframes, Griggs racing carries... Griggs subframes and Miar racing carries Maximum Motorsport subframes (I think).
thanks, but apex will prolly charge me an assload for them. then theyll want me to buy evry other damn griggs product they have
ill look into maier racing
I think that Apex is actually pretty reasonable when it comes to buying and installing the grigss sub frames from them. I think when i looked into it they quoted me a pretty fair price. It couldnt hurt to call
Yes, Apex is very reasonable w/ a set of Griggs subframes and install. I think around $180 for everything.
Posted by ash (Member # 1523) on
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well, went with you guy's advice, and got a good deal at apex for a set of griggs full length subs. thanks for the help
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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For the record, how much did you pay?
Posted by ash (Member # 1523) on
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199....for full length subframes and installation
Posted by 88gt (Member # 579) on
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Originally posted by ash:
199....for full length subframes and installation
Good deal!
Didn't someone say that Apex was fairly priced? :cough:me:cough:
Seriously though, let us know how they feel. You're going with Griggs right?
Posted by KCmustangboy (Member # 1927) on
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Where is Apex? i would like to go down there and get some installed as well. Do you know if they weld torque boxes too? Thanks Casey
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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Santa Clara www.apexmotorsports.net
Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on
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yeah, Apex is that new Viper shop that's right where that old mustang one used to be, and there's a cool nissan performance shop (Scott's Performance) right next door in Santa Clara.
Posted by ash (Member # 1523) on
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so far, im happy about the griggs. the car has a lot less body roll goin around turns, and it elminates all minor chassis squeaks which were there before. i recommend them to any1!
Posted by 88gt (Member # 579) on
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You got it done already? That was quick. Glad to hear it helped.
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on
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Originally posted by 88gt:
Didn't someone say that Apex was fairly priced? :cough:me:cough:
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You think that is a good price??? The subs are what? $80-90 at the most. $110 for installation? I have never payed more than $30 to have subs installed on any of my past mustangs. It is a good connection, but I have gotten friends subs installed for $50 (reg price). Welded ALL the way down and then painted afterwards to help prevent rust.
Ash, Regardless of the price you couldn't have stood to save but $60-$70 and now you have them installed. I think that subframes are by far the least expensive and best mod to help prevent flex etc.
Posted by KCmustangboy (Member # 1927) on
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Hidnn.o.s--Where do you think I should go to have them installed?
Posted by Rev Happy (Member # 661) on
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I have never payed more than $30 to have subs installed on any of my past mustangs. It is a good connection, but I have gotten friends subs installed for $50 (reg price).
$100 for installation is not bad at all. When I was looking to get my MaximumMotorsport Full Length subs installed, one place quoted me $240 just for labor... and this place is listed on Griggs' website as an authorized Griggs dealer and installer...MM also had this place listed as well on their site...
I ended having them installed for $80 by a shop where the owner actually fabricates his own subframes... I think that was an awesome price considering that on 96-98 Cobras, the tranny cross member bolts onto the stock subframes, causing the installer to fabricate a new brace that bolts onto the new subframes which then will be welded up.
[ November 01, 2002, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: Rev Happy ]
Posted by Bill/APEX Motorsports (Member # 636) on
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Shade-tree, give us some credit, man!
The Griggs subframes are only $79.95 plus $112 to weld them in. With tax, it's right around $199. (Save 10% on the Griggs subframes in the month of November, and it's $8 less.) They're .120" wall 1"x2" steel, are contoured to the underside of the car, and _really_ strengthen up the chassis.
I agree with the others--KB subs are very spindly. They pretty much would just be dead weight were it not for the seat braces, which really do nothing on a connector that's rigid enough (aka Griggs).
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