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Topic: long tubes or shortys?for a 4.6
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NvrGoFullRetard
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i was about to buy shortys for the price but i was wondering how much more power would the longtubes actually give me.i have a decently built motor.i also already have a h pipe for shortys but if it is worth it i would look in to getting the long tubes and an x pipe it it will giving a considerble amount of power gain over the shorty's.
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"formally 4.6 eatin gm's"
white 97gt n/a 320rwhp/325rwtq
01 sierra rcsb lsx 408 (murdered out)
03 ecsb sierra 6.0 on 22's
2011 Tahoe
Posts: 2759 | From: PITTSBURG/FAIRFIELD | Registered: Aug 2002
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99gt-UJSTLST
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Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
i was about to buy shortys for the price but i was wondering how much more power would the longtubes actually give me.i have a decently built motor.i also already have a h pipe for shortys but if it is worth it i would look in to getting the long tubes and an x pipe it it will giving a considerble amount of power gain over the shorty's.
hey no comparison is all I have to say
you will see way more power from some Long tubes
I say at least 2times more power from long tubes
but if your goin long tubes make sure you get some BBK ceramic coted they are better then MAC's
but of course MAC's will be cheaper in price
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SOUTH BAY STANGS
MINOR BOLT ON'S
www.southbaystangs.com
Posts: 2558 | From: SAN JOSE CA | Registered: Nov 2001
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NvrGoFullRetard
CAFords OG
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HOW MUCH R THEY AND DO THEY HAVE A CARB # ON THEM IN CASE I CANT GET A SMOG. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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"formally 4.6 eatin gm's"
white 97gt n/a 320rwhp/325rwtq
01 sierra rcsb lsx 408 (murdered out)
03 ecsb sierra 6.0 on 22's
2011 Tahoe
Posts: 2759 | From: PITTSBURG/FAIRFIELD | Registered: Aug 2002
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99gt-UJSTLST
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Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
HOW MUCH R THEY AND DO THEY HAVE A CARB # ON THEM IN CASE I CANT GET A SMOG.
well I dont think your car is goin to be smog legal with the cams
but if you go long tubes it wont pass the visual
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SOUTH BAY STANGS
MINOR BOLT ON'S
www.southbaystangs.com
Posts: 2558 | From: SAN JOSE CA | Registered: Nov 2001
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NvrGoFullRetard
CAFords OG
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my eingine builder says the new cams will pass,and i have a way around the visual.but will they actually pass the smog test with them on?
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"formally 4.6 eatin gm's"
white 97gt n/a 320rwhp/325rwtq
01 sierra rcsb lsx 408 (murdered out)
03 ecsb sierra 6.0 on 22's
2011 Tahoe
Posts: 2759 | From: PITTSBURG/FAIRFIELD | Registered: Aug 2002
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Camara90
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the only way it will pass the smog check is if you buy a shorty h-pipe with some cats on it, that is if a buddy hooks you up on the visual part.
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92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans.
std. 356hp, 350tq
11.85@111.9mph on motor.
Posts: 2351 | From: 707 | Registered: Jan 2001
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Copello
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Sure go ahead and buy the long tube's you will get twice the power right....uh no you probably won't notice the difference and the shorties are a much cleaner install and have lots more h pipe options.
Posts: 1309 | From: San Mateo | Registered: Jul 2002
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99gt-UJSTLST
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Originally posted by 5.0#3 88'conv:
Sure go ahead and buy the long tube's you will get twice the power right....uh no you probably won't notice the difference and the shorties are a much cleaner install and have lots more h pipe options.
wont feel the power ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
i dont now let see 5rwhp appose to 20rwhp hmmm
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SOUTH BAY STANGS
MINOR BOLT ON'S
www.southbaystangs.com
Posts: 2558 | From: SAN JOSE CA | Registered: Nov 2001
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JARED
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Just go long tubes, I wish I would have and now regret it. My buddys 5.0 feels a lot more powerful with the longtubes we just put on his. It will pass the sniffer if you get a shorty h-pipe with high flow cats but will not pass visual but you said you have a hook up on visual so there you go.
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TRY2PAZ
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If you are running a power adder get the long tubes. Bob Cosby has the fastest 99 4V and he was running JBA shorties. I f you have to change your clutch, you have to change one side completely. Big bitch! Its all on you, but the LT's are worth it in the long run ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Posts: 4033 | From: Bay Area, CA | Registered: Dec 2000
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JARED
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So to take the tranny out to do a clutch or torque converter you would have to remove one of the long tubes? Damn I never thought about that that would suck on a 2v or 4v but not that bad on a fox. If that teh case I change my vote and go with the shortys.
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Posts: 5685 | From: EASTBAY | Registered: Jan 2002
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NvrGoFullRetard
CAFords OG
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so how much would a nice set of longtubes coast me?and if i was to get them anyone have a hook up on smog?
i can have a friend pass the visual but hes not sure on the actual test.
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"formally 4.6 eatin gm's"
white 97gt n/a 320rwhp/325rwtq
01 sierra rcsb lsx 408 (murdered out)
03 ecsb sierra 6.0 on 22's
2011 Tahoe
Posts: 2759 | From: PITTSBURG/FAIRFIELD | Registered: Aug 2002
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JARED
Member # 779
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It will pass teh sniffer just not visual so it looks as if you are covered. I think BBK's Longtubes are like $350 but I have heard SHM are a little better because of there dyno numbers.
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Posts: 5685 | From: EASTBAY | Registered: Jan 2002
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88gt
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4.6 EATIN GM's, can you send me a PM if you can help me pass the visual smog part too. I can pass the sniffer, but not visual right now. Thanks
Posts: 1482 | From: Santa Clara/Bay area | Registered: Nov 2001
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NvrGoFullRetard
CAFords OG
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how do i post a pm?
and where is los altos
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"formally 4.6 eatin gm's"
white 97gt n/a 320rwhp/325rwtq
01 sierra rcsb lsx 408 (murdered out)
03 ecsb sierra 6.0 on 22's
2011 Tahoe
Posts: 2759 | From: PITTSBURG/FAIRFIELD | Registered: Aug 2002
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88gt
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Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
how do i post a pm?
and where is los altos
Just click on my profile and then go to "send private message." Or just email me at markdicello@msn.com. Los Altos is near mountain view, about 10 min north of san jose. Im actually in santa clara right now. I'm willing to drive a little though if it'll work
Posts: 1482 | From: Santa Clara/Bay area | Registered: Nov 2001
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00silver-gt
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I have a bbk off road x-pipe with my 4.6liter gt and I put on shorty headers. I tried to fit the longtube headers, but it required me to make a few cuts. If you want longtubes, you will obviously get more horsepower, but not that much. Go with the shorty's they sound really good and provide a lot more horsepower.
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5-SPEED
BBK OFF ROAD X-PIPE
SHORTY HEADERS
MAC MUFFLERS W/3"TIPS
MAC COLD AIR INTAKE
EIBACH SPORTLINE SPRINGS
Posts: 48 | From: Pleasanton, CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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Copello
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yea 25 to 30 hp with the long tube headers because you have to change the h-pipe as well to get them to work you bunch of idiots. the only reson you only get about 10 hp with the shorties is because they are testing it with the stock cats if you compare both long tube and shorties with off road h pipes there is only a 1-2 hp difference......do you understand, and the long tubes are a bitch to install.
Posts: 1309 | From: San Mateo | Registered: Jul 2002
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