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Originally posted by shade-tree:
no tubes needed at all, and you don't need screws by themselves. If screws, you need tubes.

8" rim is perfect for 26x10.5 ET Streets (they are 8.5" actual)

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WHAT?????????????????????
If you're talking about M/T ET STREETS (which as far as I know are the only tires named ET STREET) then YES you NEED tubes. Since you HAVE to use tubes you might as well screw them to the wheels. You have to drill your own holes but I think the Mr Gasket kit somes with the correct drill bit.

Shade Tree, you say 8.5 is a perfect wheel width which is exactly what M/T recomends, so that means you have read correct info somewhere which makes me wonder how you could possibly miss the part that says, and I quote, "TUBES REQUIRED". ET STREETS aren't radials like drag radials (where tubes and screws are not necessary), they're still bias ply slicks with a soft sidewall. USE TUBES UNLESS YOU FEEL LIKE PUTTING AIR IN THEM EVERY 2 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by imbroken (Member # 165) on :
 
I had a set of M/T E.T's w/ no tubes.. no problems here..
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
I disagree there Chris buddy, but that's ok, do whatever works for you.

I re-iterate my statement. If you run tubes you'll need screws as without you'll tear the valve stem off.

~ 80 passes in my ET Streets and zero problems so far.

If you were to use an ET Street as your daily driver tire (heh!), I'm sure tubes would keep the air from escaping.

In my application, I swap tires at the track and use a compressor to get the exact pressure I need for every pass. The amount of air that leaks in an hour is negligible.

But if you go to the Mickey Thompson web site, they recommend tubes for their tires and I'm sure they have their reasons for doing so.

Countless 1/4 racers in this country do it without any problems.

/me shrugs
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
damn you guys are scaring me. Do you mind if I take a piss on your cars to help put out the fire when the bead jumps off the rim since they're not designed to hold any kind of air pressure???? Sure it hasn't happened yet but...

I did not see anywhere on their web site that says they're only recommended, it "suggests" a tube part # but that's only because you don't have to use M/T brand tubes. If you go to the tube section of their web site it clearly says "NOTE: Besides being required for air retention, M/T® Tubes will enhance the reaction time, increase stiffness and reduce sidewall shock and deflection whtn launching." (and yes they misspell the word when "whtn") REQUIRED . Pick up your Summit catalog and it clearly says in the M/T ad "TUBE REQUIRED" Mickey Thompson knows their product better than you so I'd listen to what they're saying. What you people are basically saying is that you don't NEED a condom but if you really want to be overly cautious then go ahead and use them.
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
Hey more power to you. Reading really is fundamental. I'll let you know when I blow up my car and kill everyone at the track 'cause I'm not using tubes.
I've marked the tube/rim and they have yet to slip one iota.
Have you ever noticed that manufacturers err to the side of extreme caution to avoid product liability lawsuits? No? Ever read the side of a McDonald's styrofoam coffee cup?

/me happily motors down the road with no tubes
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
Your motor needs to have a respectable amount of torque to make the wheel spin on the rim, obviously you have that problem solved. That's not really want I'm concerned about, what I'm concerned about is when you start getting a little loose side to side and as you're correcting.. OOPS, time for Chris to come put out the fire with his urine. The McD's cup says the shit inside is hot so don't pour it on your balls... do you pour it on your balls or do you keep it in the cup until you're ready to drink it?

Brian, if you dont want to spend $70 on tubes then go to Kragen and spend $15.

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did you know their are people that use two spare tires for skinnies up front....

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Originally posted by 5.0Brian:
Are tubes needed for these? They are 26x10.5". Will this width fit on an 8 inch rim? Also, do I mount them and just take them to get balanced or what? And, do I need to screw them onto the rim (there are already holes on my rims for screws)?

(Should this be in the tech section? If so, sorry about that)

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Originally posted by PunkINa5.SLOW:
Hey chris_the_cum_bucket

I have had plenty cars and I have one right now.

Why we lookin at a race?

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Sure, all I ask is that you give me two weeks to get the parts and finish my new rear end.
 

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Posted by PunkINa5.SLOW (Member # 10) on :
 
Sure. Do you mind if I put some nitrous on it to make it a fair race?

It is just a stock 5.0L right now.
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
judging by his trap speeds, I'd keep the jug in the garage
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
Put whatever you want on it. Win, Lose, I don't really care, just so long as it's a good race. Just keep in mind that I can only trap 104 and I'm sure it won't change any with gears, traction and tuning.

Only problem is that you have to wait a month now.
 

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Posted by PunkINa5.SLOW (Member # 10) on :
 
I dont care.

Ive been wanting to race your punk ass every since that night you caught me with your mom and snapped those pics.

Now she wont put out for me.

Im pissed.

If I grenade one more tranny trying to get this crack addict nitrous kit tuned then you will be the one waiting a month.

Homo.
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
Now that she has pictures and batteries, she doesn't need you.

If I have to wait a month after making you wait a month then you might need more than just nitrous on a stock 302. Here is an idea, buy a Lentech.
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
Oh and when we race I'll be rolling on my Hoosier Quick Time Pros (which are better than ET Streets because of their section/tread width ratio) WITH TUBES.
 

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Posted by PunkINa5.SLOW (Member # 10) on :
 
heeehehee
cool chris sounds fun man.
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
So if your hoosiers are better, what kind of 60's are we lookin' at?
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
NO CLUE, here is the info, you tell me.

1.954 60' with a one legger 2.79s, 245/50/15 BFG T/A radials

Now I'll have a detroit locker 4.11s, and 28x14.50 (about 325/50/15s) Hoosiers

10" 2500 stall converter which stalled to 2800 rpm on the 1.954 60'
 

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Posted by customN2O (Member # 914) on :
 
I use ET Streets, with no tubes. The tires leak air, and go flat about every 2 or 3 days, but thats because they are screwed to the rims. I could fix it, but too lazy. The car pulls consistant 1.34 60 fts, and runs at over 150 mph. NO PROBLEM without tubes. Definately balance them. And I have never had any problems with the balance going bad. I burn the shit out of them also! Good tires. Suck in the rain though..I wouldnt do any high speed getaways with them. Not good for cornering.

[ June 06, 2002, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: customN2O ]
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
Yeah Scott and you have a billion hp on a stock small block. We already know you do things that aren't suggested.
 

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Posted by customN2O (Member # 914) on :
 
damn, a little hostile Chris? lol. Actually, the stock block has been laid to rest. Took too much. Just had to upgrade to a Iron Eagle block. Should be together soon. I must say, this aftermarket block is the shit!!! My cylinder walls are now .4 inches thick! Can you say MORE NITROUS!!!!! hahahaha. But on a serious note, dont worry about tubes in the tires. Personally, I would recomend it. It is safer, but....Lots of people do it, and MT says its ok also. Just a mans opinion! Dont bite my head off!!!!
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
I wasn't biting any heads off. My girlfriend got here as I was reading your post so I made mine short and to the point. Now she's gone so I can post again, You spend $300 on two wheels, $360 on two tires, $10-20 on wheel screws, why not spend $30 more for tubes. It's just one of those things that doesn't add up. There is a reason "tube type" is written on the sidewall of the tire.

Was the block willingly retired or was it forced into retirement?
 

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Posted by customN2O (Member # 914) on :
 
The block was forced into retirement. The head gasket started seaping water, so I tried to take head off, and reseal copper gasket. Where it was leaking, a head stud was pulling out of the block, so I tried to Helicoil it. Well, I screwed that all up by putting it in crooked. Then I pulled motor apart to take to machine shop and have a thread insert put in. Good thing I took it apart, cause the block showed more wear in the last 30 passes (about 10 miles) then it has ever shown in its life...Its a 68 block. The tops of the cylinders were bowing. Block filler from the bottom, to about 1 inch from the top. In that inch, the cylinders were moving around. Right at the filler line, was a groove where the rings where running agains the part of the block that wouldnt stretch....The tops were going out. Really wierd. Too much power I guess! The main caps were walking all over the place too, so I figured it was time to step up. Now I wont have to worry about splitting the block, so other then the money, its all good now!
 

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Posted by yellow67stang (Member # 903) on :
 
Hey Chris,

If you treat what every manufacturer says as "gospel" then you will always be stuck in the 13's or 14's(whatever times you run). Make sure and keep the posted tire pressure in the tires you have according to what Hoosier/MT says to do! Better yet, I would also call Ford and run the correct size tire that your car was built for! Most recommendations are there for insurance and liability issues.

Congrats on the new block Zim! I have never seen a Dart block on the inside but have heard great things about them!
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
I wonder if the Ford owner's manual says to do your burnouts in 1st or 2nd gear?
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 

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Originally posted by shade-tree:
I wonder if the Ford owner's manual says to do your burnouts in 1st or 2nd gear?

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Their web page recomends second gear
 

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Posted by Chris_67_SC_408 (Member # 936) on :
 
Then I guess I should stop using third.

And Yellow67, I run 15s
 

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Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
Shade tree you are right. you can run them any way you want to. I ran 12.4@111.00 with a high 1.6 foot time on NO TUBES NO screws. Have ran 1.63 on tubes and no screws oh buy the way I have broken 28 and 31 spline axles with and with out tubes and the tire stayed in the same place kinda makes you wonder??????
 

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Posted by customN2O (Member # 914) on :
 
Eric, how did you do in Vegas? I heard you were there, but no one that I talked to saw your car run. How is that thing running?


[ June 07, 2002, 08:31 PM: Message edited by: customN2O ]
 

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