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[QUOTE]Originally posted by theguywhoknows: [QB] Hey onelowsplitbumper, your blown 408 sounds pretty cool, but remember, we are talkin about a naturally aspirated 408 here, not a blown 408, and Missy's is a nice engine, but certainly not even close to my all-out nasty race 408's and it is light years away from any of the supercharged engines I build. She's just a pump gasser and a fairly mild one at that compared to other engines I build. But even with that, she runs easy 10's with the front wheels up. If you want a heads-up race between two blown cars, my own 65 Fastback has twin NOVI 1200's and twin 250 HP shots of nitrous if you want to play, but I'd have to race you in an all out "Cannon Ball Run" style race because my car isn't set-up for drag racing and launching off the line. It's my exehibition car that I take to shows with CNC'd Victor heads, an R-302 block, 4340 everything, roller everything and the best of the best everywhere else. You can say it runs quite well and makes well into the 4 digit HP area. I'm sure you'll see the car in some of the major shows in the bay area and beyond. Josh, I can't really say anything bad about DSS. They are a good company and I know Eric over there (a good guy). They do build some nice engines and use some good parts in "most" of their engines. As with any company that advertises though (we don't do any advertising), they all have their "bargain" priced engines for the price shopper's out there. With DSS (and any other engine builder for that matter) you have to know what "series" engine to get. Don't just go by the size, HP rating and price of the engine. Just because an engine is a 332, 347, 396, 408 or 427 stroker, doesn't mean its built as good as it can be, hence the stock 302 rods in one of the other 396 engines out there, where ours uses a VERY long 6.250" Chevy ( I know, bite my tongue) rods that are 4340 forged H-beam style. The saying is true, you get what you pay for and the real deal stuff ain't cheap. Hell, I build $45,000 engines for sand dragsters over seas, $30,000 boat engines and so on. So you can see that an engine price for the real stuff can jump WAY up, REAL fast. Missy's car has a simple, decent 408 that has 11:1 compression, out of the box (untouched) Victor Jr. heads. One of my custom solid roller cams (.624" / .636" lift) which is small compared to the real race cams we use, JE pistons, a 4340 crank, one of our billet main supports, a ported Victor Jr. intake and a customized Holley 750 carb and that's really about it without getting into too much detail. It's nothing spectacular and it runs on 92 octane fuel and peels-off easy 10 second times with the front wheels off the ground with nothing more than 8" M/T cheater slicks, a 3.89 9" rear-end on stock leaf springs with slapper bars and not much else. That equates out to some pretty good power. Of course there is more to it than just that, but those are my secrets, and I could tell you some of them, but then I'd have to kill you afterwards... ha-ha-ha!! One of our "real" race 408's (still naturally aspirated and single carbbed) would propell her car well into the 9's, although with her existing suspension, that would be pretty hard on the car and fairly dangerous to boot and I'm sure her car wouldn't pass tech for that kind of speed with what she has right now. This winter, I am going to massage the heads a little, change-out the cam to a slightly more aggressive profile and maybe change the valve angles a bit and that's about it. That should drop her down about 2, or maybe even 3 more tenths and maybe gain about 5 MPH. We'll see. I'm one of those guy's that say's nothing is final until the fat lady sings, and guess what my dyno's name is.... I call it "the fat lady"! Talk is cheap, but real numbers and time slips tell the truth. Good luck with your engine adventure and if I can be of any help (to ANY of you out there for that matter), please feel free to ask, OK? Have a good one everyone and remember, it's all about fun. :-) [URL=http://www.BadAssCars.com]www.BadAssCars.com[/URL] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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