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Cali5.0Boy925
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My car was dumping smoke out of exhaust and I tested the compression and it was good so yuan I figured it was head gasket so I pulled the heads and my gaskets look solid and there was water in my cylinders I'm really in desperate need of some help anything will do thank you oh and I still havent got my heads checked

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Maybe the water passages in the lower intake started to leak into the intake ports? Just a suggestion. Did they use sealant on both sides of the intake manifold gaskets by the water passages?

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I dont remember seein any silacone and I did notice that alot of stuff wasnt very tight at alland a bolt or two on the heads and intake were like finger tight

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compression was good so i thought it was head gaskets?
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Yea that might be the problem right there if the intake bolts where loose and there was no sealant around the water passages that could cause a leak the passages are right next to the intake ports. Was it leaking any water from the front or rear of the lower intake?

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Yea my compression was good so thats what I thought cus I read that in other forums people having good compression but still have a blown head gasket but my gaskets still look good so I was now thinking maybe my heads are fucked

[ March 04, 2011, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: Cali5.0Boy925 ]

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Before all this happened were you havin to put oil and water in but it wasnt visibly leaking? Or just water? Or just oil?

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Nothing visible but yea I had to put both. Oil alot more than water

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Well I couldnt literally see leaks but I could see oil under the motor so it was leaking some how

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Dumb ?..... You sure its out the exhaust (were you seeing it as you drove or were you outside the car?)

Only reason I ask, my oil dipstick somehow came loose one day and when I got on it oil would spill out the hole and burn. Id look back and see smoke. So it was more under the car vs out the exhasut but had the same apperance. Just another possible answer. -Joe

[ March 04, 2011, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: bottled95GT?? ]

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dipstick is the driver side the problem is on the passenger side it sounds to me like a bad gasket seal

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Yea I jacked the car up and started it and haver it had while I was under it and it was leaking and smoking off the exhaust but also was heeeella poring smoke out of the pasenger side exhaust enough to leave a grey circle mark on the cement were my tips point down some one was telling me it could be injectors?

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I hope so I'm taking my heads to a shop tomorrow to see if thats it if not than I'm just ganna seal everything back up and see if it fixes it cus thoughs are the only things I can think of and when I looked at the bottom of my valves on my grads one was rich and the other was lean on pretty much all of them

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What color smoke?

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Like a grey kinda dark if I remember correctly

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Originally posted by Cali5.0Boy925:
I hope so I'm taking my heads to a shop tomorrow to see if thats it if not than I'm just ganna seal everything back up and see if it fixes it cus thoughs are the only things I can think of and when I looked at the bottom of my valves on my grads one was rich and the other was lean on pretty much all of them

its common for the exhaust valve to be discolored.
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what kind of heads

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K good I was worried about that but there stock heads

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I think it's gonna end up being either an intake gasket leak or a cracked head. good luck with it!
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go in and get a diagnosis. ask them to magnaflux the heads for cracks
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Thats what its coming down to taking my heads in monday and putting it back together thanks for all the help everyone we will see thanks again

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Hope they changed the valve stem seals....

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valve stems come in most of their standard package if it doesn't stomp back in there
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Haha yea thanks [patriot]

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