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Blind
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Ok since most people will skim the post then say "buy this" I will list first off what is brand new and has already been replaced:

O2 wiring harness
both O2 sensors
ECT (replaced, but from another 5.0, so it is not brand new). - heater line coolant sensor
ACT sensor - intake manifold coolant sensor
Thermostat (195* prestone)

Other pertanent info:
100% stock engine from filter box to oil pan.
Stock headers
Stock 4-cat H pipe, known to have passed smog on my brothers car about a year ago
EGR is off his car as well

Just did a MAF swap this weekend because smog ref said I had to have MAF on my `89 to pass visual. - A9L computer and stock MAF.

smog #'s:

15mph / 1483rpm
%CO2 - 13.9 / %O2 - 1.3 / HC (PPM) 174 (121 max) / CO% - 0.18 (0.76max) / NO (PPM) - 1592 (807max)

25mph / 1636rpm
%CO2 - 14.2 / %O2 - 0.5 / HC (PPM) - 150 (96max) / CO% - 0.47 (0.65max) / NO (PPM) - 856 (746max)

He also failed me on the visual because my check engine light didn't work, side effect of the MAF swap, I geuss I need to add a LED on the dash from the EEC's check engine light output and label is "check engine" for the smog nazi's.

Upon scanning for codes I got the following but dont know what they are:
(engine running) 66 98
(engine off) 95 66 29

Smog ref said one of them was for fuel pump voltage, but I know that would be there as I didn't run a new wire for that when I did the MAF swap, he said that code is fine as long as it doesn't trip the engine light when I get one hooked up.


any ideas? I'm so close [Frown] Last smog test the numbers for HC were in the 1000's so all the stuff I replaced helped a lot, but still need to make it run better [Frown]

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02 Harley F150, 15psi

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high HC sounds like still slightly too rich. was it nice and HOT, aka 195 degrees? ever shut the car off before it was tested?

a little methanol in the tank should do the trick at this point...

since your NOx #'s are (relatively) low, you can trade some NOx for HC I believe by messing with the timing (not sure), aka advancing it a hair...

did he test EGR function? it worked?

also, smog pump work ok?

[ November 29, 2004, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: JoeT ]

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quote:
Originally posted by blind:
Upon scanning for codes I got the following but dont know what they are:
(engine running) 66 98
(engine off) 95 66 29

29-VSS signal voltage is too low -> VSS is bad
66-MAF sensor out of range (signal voltage too low)-> MAF sensor is bad or not calibrated correctly.
95-FPM signal indicates circuit failure -> FPM senses fuel pump voltage is out of range.

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drove it from HMB to fremont via the 101 -> 237 route, took an hour.

The engine was turned off to do the visual check, then tested, it was still plenty hot because the fan was tripping on / off and it only trips when the coolent temp is 205 degree's.


Thanks for the codes! [patriot]

VSS = not hooked up at all
FPM = did not add this line when I did the MAF swap

MAF bad...shit

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I believe that 'bad maf' could be a stored code, aka no longer a KOER code...

can verify with a voltmeter during operation

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I highly doubt the MAF is a stored code, considering the MAF swap was done 3 days ago and the MAF has not been unplugged during that time.

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66 Vane Air Flow (VAF) or Mass Air Flow (MAF) signal low - VAF MAF

96 (O) Fuel pump monitor circuit shows no power - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits
(R) AIR Bypass (AIRB) not working - Air Injection
(M) (Service 87 code first if present) Fuel pump relay or battery power feed was open - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits

95 (O) Fuel pump: open, bad ground or always on - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits
(R) AIR not Diverting (AIRD) - Air Injection
(M) Possible bad fuel pump ground or open between fuel pump and pin 8 at PCM (Fuel Pump Monitor signal) - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits

98 (R) Did not pass KOEO yet (Get 11 in KOEO first)


98 looks like its nothing...

I may have the running / KOEO list of the codes reversed, in that case the AIRD valves arent opening? I geuss I get to check on that vacuume routing again, joy.

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02 Harley F150, 15psi

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