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Author Topic: Ram Air z pyro ¯ Member # 3745 posted                              ever see one of these? http://www.stangnet.com/reviews/banshee/ I think this would be pretty cool, but it's >$600! Any thoughts? -------------------- '95 Integra LS '08 Buell XB12R Firebolt '65 Mustang 289 - soon to be 306 Posts: 1732 | From: Fresno, CA | Registered: Nov 2003  |  : JoeT ¯ Member # 298 posted                                 lame, unless you have a Mach 1 seriously, ram air is great for catching flies, dirt, rainwater, and trashing motors. I doubt that's what you're after so stick a K&N filter in the stock panel and please call it a day -------------------- 1984 Ford Tempo AOD--- RIP Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001  |  : DropTopFox drama Member # 1689 posted                              get a C&L truflo inlet pipe too, you don't want ribs in your intake pipe like the stock one has. Shade is right, Ram Air doesn't because affective until you're at really high speeds anyways. It's too much to maintain. Just remove the silencer, get a K&N and the inlet pipe, and be happy -------------------- Go out and do something for yourself today everyone, quit depending on others -Me http://www.CaliforniaFords.com/cgi-bin/album.pl?album=00001689 Posts: 4003 | From: San Bruno | Registered: Aug 2002  |  : wilit Mustang Messiah Member # 3367 posted                                 Obviously you two have never owned a car with a "ram air" scoop. That doesn't happen. There's also a water drain hole to release any water that might collect in the scoop, so very little water ever makes it to the filter. Why is that kit $1150? You can get a CDC kit for around $800, and I'm sure the shipping isn't $150. -------------------- "If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr. Posts: 4793 | From: 37.78514° North 122.40100° West | Registered: Oct 2003  |  : z pyro ¯ Member # 3745 posted                              well first of all, I don't want to be like everyone else. one of the sites i saw that on said that they sprayed water into it with no problems. I think that kit would make my car look different than probably every other Tbird on the road. now if only i had $ to spend.... -------------------- '95 Integra LS '08 Buell XB12R Firebolt '65 Mustang 289 - soon to be 306 Posts: 1732 | From: Fresno, CA | Registered: Nov 2003  |  : Stimson _ Member # 51 posted                              It will have next to no performance increase. If you want a hoodscoop, just buy one and slap it on your hood, but don't kid yourself into thinking that the worlds most complicated and expensive cold air kit will give you a notible power increase. Posts: 2373 | Registered: Jun 2000  |  : chosen1 ¯ Member # 1906 posted                              If someone is desperate for a ram air kit, why not get the stormin normin hood with the functional ram air kit? It looks a lot better than that. [ December 21, 2003, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Chosen1 ] -------------------- 1967 Fastback. Should go 10's -but doesn't 1993 Cobra 2003 Suzuki SVS 1966 Coupe -For Sale Posts: 2205 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  : z pyro ¯ Member # 3745 posted                              problem is, I don't have a Mustang. I can cut a hole in mine to fit the shaker hood scoop, but I can't put a Mustang hood on it. My uncle has that kit for his Mustang, though. now on fordmuscle.com, they have a couple of articles on induction. one is about the fenderwell cold-air systems... "Testing and Results To determine the effectiveness of the cold-air kit, we took our trusty '88 LX to the track. We made several passes with the stock air box, and also with the cold-air kit. The bottom line? No difference whatsoever. In fact, we've had the car at the track several times, with and without the cold-air kit, and not once has there been a change, better or worse, in ET or mph! We also used a thermocouple to measure the temperature of the air directly behind the air filter. The fenderwell kits boast that they are picking up colder air by moving the filter into the fender. We however measured no change in temperature between the stock box or cold-air kit. On a 64°F morning, both types of air cleaner assemblies measured between 54-56°F behind the air cleaner. (Measured at 60mph). We also measured the temperature of the air inside the engine compartment on a fully warmed-up engine. With ambient temperature at 64°F, the stagnant air under the hood was around 110°F. This indicates that the worst possible type of filter would be a conical element placed open in the engine compartment. Incidentally, placing the thermocouple out the window at the same speed showed air temperature as low as 51°F, indicating that a true ram-air kit, drawing from the air flowing over or under the car, would increase power via a denser air charge. It is pretty conclusive that the aftermarket conical filter, relocated to the fenderwell, offers absolutely no performance advantage over the stock air box fitted with a clean K&N panel filter. Both the stock air-box and the Moroso kit pick up air from the same source -the right fenderwell. So the quality of air entering the engine is not changing. In the long run, the conical fenderwell elements may even prove to hinder power due to the accelerated rate at which they get dirty and clogged with dirt kicked up under the fender." another one installs a ram-air kit on a carbed mustang... "AIS claims most users see a 2 to 4 tenths improvement in ET, and as much as 10% increase in power and long range fuel economy. We decided to see if we could confirm these claims for ourselves. Our 1967 Mustang had been running consistent 13.0 - 13.10 for the past five months, with seemingly no hope for a 12 second time slip. No matter what we tried we could not gain that extra tenth. So needless to say, we weren't too convinced that the Ram Air Box would do it. Fortunately we were proved wrong! Very wrong! Quarter mile results confirmed over 2 tenths improvement and a gain of 3 mph over our previous bests without ram-air. To top it off, we noticed an increase of about 2 mpg on our 100 mile roundtrip drive to and from the racetrack. Ram Air Box w/ air filter (Best Run) E.T.-12.80@107.32 60ft-1.76 (2nd best) E.T.-12.83@107.12 60ft-1.75 (3rd best) E.T.-12.83@106.60 60ft-1.77 Ram Air Box w/o air filter E.T.-12.95@106.12 60ft-1.78 No Ram Air Box (Previous Best ET) E.T.-13.03@104.16 60ft-1.78 There is absolutely no doubt that the design of the Ram Air Box yields convincing results. This may in fact be the cheapest horsepower you can buy for your carbed Ford! We were also curious if the Ram Air Box worked better without an air filter, but we actually lost a tenth and 1 mph without it. We figure the air filter reduces turbulence in the box and straightens the air flow to the carb. As mentioned before, we used a cheap paper filter, but a good cotton gauze will flow better." Granted, this is for a carbed Mustang, but same concept nonetheless. The same basic automotive performance rules apply; colder air=more power, and forced induction(however slight)=more power. -------------------- '95 Integra LS '08 Buell XB12R Firebolt '65 Mustang 289 - soon to be 306 Posts: 1732 | From: Fresno, CA | Registered: Nov 2003  |  : FasterDamnit Bad Attitude Member # 442 posted                                 That ram air system is two 4" pipes going to holes cut in the radiator support that feed a purpose built two snorkel ram air air cleaner for the Holley DP. I doubt the setup you are looking at has that kind of volume or direct shot into the intake. -------------------- '92 LX T5 Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph. '65 Mustang 347 www.fordmuscle.com Livin' in the Carolina Pines Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001  |  : z pyro ¯ Member # 3745 posted                              hey, you're a tech editor at fordmuscle. why don't you guys test the thing out? well regardless, the thing is still sucking air from outside, rather than the engine compartment or the fenderwell, which, shown in the fordmuscle article, is no different from the stock intake. so it has to have at least some difference (rather than the cost, which is pretty damn steep. ) -------------------- '95 Integra LS '08 Buell XB12R Firebolt '65 Mustang 289 - soon to be 306 Posts: 1732 | From: Fresno, CA | Registered: Nov 2003  |  : FasterDamnit Bad Attitude Member # 442 posted                                 1. The fender well is the same as outside. 2. The air path w/ the CDC system is very poor. The air has to go into the scoop, reverse direction to go back to the air box, then into the intake. And the piping is not very big. 3. The setup requies a stock intake. None of the F/M cars run one. Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001  |  :

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