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PonyBoy
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I would a appreciate it if someone could thoroughly explain to me how to advance the timing on my 91 5.0 lx hatch. Form 10 degrees to about 14 degrees. Thank you.
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Posts: 114 | From: Sacramento CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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Milesblown03
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going to need a timing light, and 1/2 wrench. Do you know how to check timing at all?
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Posts: 1002 | From: Hayward, CA | Registered: Jun 2000
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90gtverrt
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Okay you need what he said.
1st Disconnect the SPOUT connector. It is located near the distributor. Its a little 2 pin connector.
2nd Hook up the timing light. Positive Negative.....Hook the Timing Sensor to Spark Plug Wire #1
3rd Turn the car on
4 Check timing on the Balancer near the crankshaft pully.
5 loosent the 1/2 inch nut on the distributor
6 turn it either left or right until the timing mark points to 14
7 Tighten nut back up
8 Check timing
9 Turn motor off
10 Disconnect timing light
11 reconnect SPOUT Connector
12 drive around and be happy
Mike
Posts: 1199 | From: Livermore, CA | Registered: Jun 2002
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WANARNM
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Member # 587
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Originally posted by PonyBoy:
I would a appreciate it if someone could thoroughly explain to me how to advance the timing on my 91 5.0 lx hatch. Form 10 degrees to about 14 degrees. Thank you.
Be carefull. Alot of 5.0 dont like that much timing and will pre-detinate (i think i spelled that wrong). My car would only go up to 12* timing. Anything after that would detinate. Good luck. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Posts: 1390 | From: San Jose | Registered: Nov 2001
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hidnn.o.s.
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I have never heard of a car (86-93 without blower,nos, or major mods) that cannot handle at least 14 degrees of timing. If you can't, you might want to do a thourough tune up and run the proper gas.
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WANARNM
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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I have never heard of a car (86-93 without blower,nos, or major mods) that cannot handle at least 14 degrees of timing. If you can't, you might want to do a thourough tune up and run the proper gas.
My car would only take 12* timing WITH 91octane. Well... That was my stock block. I havent tried 14* on my new motor. I'm staying at 10* because of the chip. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Posts: 1390 | From: San Jose | Registered: Nov 2001
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Stimson
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Another member of the 12 degree club here. At the track I would actually lose .5 mph if I pumped it up to 13-14 degrees. I think 13-14 is more suited for that good TEXAS gasoline, not this hippie California junk
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www.50tech.com
they have pictures for your n00b ass ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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ShowRoomStang
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Originally posted by 87Saleen:
www.50tech.com
they have pictures for your n00b ass
NOW THAT IS A NICE ASS 87' SALEEN!!! i have a black 87' but its not a Saleen! sweet ride man!
[ August 27, 2002, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: ShowRoomStang ]
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Posts: 18 | From: Brentwood CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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UNLUCKIER
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I had mine up to 21 degrees advanced ![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
Posts: 1023 | From: ODENTON MD | Registered: Sep 2001
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BIGJUNE
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sup . a fiveohmike is on the dot but i think u should first mark ur stock timing of 10 degrees btdc with some whiteout to be safe. then mark the balancer at 12 or 14 btdc. its eaiser becauses it can be hard to see the marks at times.good luck
Posts: 110 | From: los banos | Registered: Aug 2002
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Glenn
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Member # 520
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quote:
Originally posted by PonyBoy:
I would a appreciate it if someone could thoroughly explain to me how to advance the timing on my 91 5.0 lx hatch. Form 10 degrees to about 14 degrees. Thank you.
Where you from? I got a gun if you want to do it... I have mine at 12*, my car didn't like 14 too much.
Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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street_illegal_stang
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i run it at 18 degrees and it friggin pulls hard.
somthing though its hard to strat the car back up anfter shuting off....could be that i have a battery p.o.s ing on me.
Posts: 1276 | From: Long Beach C.A | Registered: Jul 2002
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street_illegal_stang
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i'm drunk as hell right now,and its kinda hard to type in the dark also.
Justin R.
Posts: 1276 | From: Long Beach C.A | Registered: Jul 2002
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FasterDamnit
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Originally posted by st5150:
Another member of the 12 degree club here. At the track I would actually lose .5 mph if I pumped it up to 13-14 degrees. I think 13-14 is more suited for that good TEXAS gasoline, not this hippie California junk
Stock intake/heads/cam went 13.39 at 102 w/ 16* timing.
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Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
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Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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whoa there, what's the catch? this sounds too easy. why doesnt' everyone just run a fugged up timing and have fast ass cars? it's gotta mess something up to have the engine running so hot... no?
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'70 - Drop Cutthang
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Posts: 3953 | From: Thebay | Registered: Jul 2002
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Stimson
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Originally posted by 87Saleen:
whoa there, what's the catch? this sounds too easy. why doesnt' everyone just run a fugged up timing and have fast ass cars? it's gotta mess something up to have the engine running so hot... no?
More timing doesn't mean more power. Your timing has to match your compression ratio, octane, power adder, ect.
I've also seen many people mis-read their timing. Each tick on the stock balancer is TWO degrees of timing. Many people set their timing on the third or fourth tick after ten degrees BTDC and think they're at 13 or 14 degrees initial when its really 16 or 18 degrees ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Its also worth nothing that some EEC problems (codes) will withdraw timing and thus allow you to get away with an 'abnormal' amount of initial timing.
Lets not forget the stock balancer could have spun, the reference pointer could be bent and good 'ol user error reading the balancer which all could explain differences between how much initial timing a stock 5.O can take.
Posts: 2373 | Registered: Jun 2000
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PonyBoy
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hey glenn that would be great if you could help me. i live in sacramento aroud sunrise area. but i don't mind a little bit of a drive if its for some free horespower.
Posts: 114 | From: Sacramento CA | Registered: Aug 2002
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Midnight5.0
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Glenn - What would be good for my car? Would it be worth going to 12 or 14 degrees opposed to stock? Right now I run 89 octane, but I wouldn't mind going higher if i'm going to feel a noticeable difference. I also don't know how to do timing.
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Posts: 551 | From: 925 | Registered: Dec 2001
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FasterDamnit
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Member # 442
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Stock intake/heads/cam went 13.39 at 102 w/ 16* timing.
Properly measured, good balancer and pointer. No codes. At 18* she would ping, at 14* she ran slower. So, more timing gave me more power up to a point. Every car is a little different- that's what tuning is all about. Use all this info to get you into the right ballpark and then tune your car to what it wants. I can't afford dyno time so I tune at the track.
Oh yeah, - that's on 91 octane.
JL
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Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
'65 Mustang 347
www.fordmuscle.com
Livin' in the Carolina Pines
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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street_illegal_stang
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i've had it at 15 degrees and it felt really strong..(91octane)
now since i've ported my lower intake i've bumped it up to 18 degrees.with 91+ octane booster(108 turbo)..doesn't ping or feel like shit.
its a lot stronger than before..
the tires rip in 1st,2nd, and cherps in 3rd.
those are 3:08 gears mind you
i don't know maybe i got a magic 5.0 ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
but everyones 5.0 is differnt in there own way.
spark gap,fuel,compession..whatever you know what i'm saying..i think 15 degrees is cool for mild mods on a 5.0.
Posts: 1276 | From: Long Beach C.A | Registered: Jul 2002
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