Author
|
Topic: SVO Spindles??
|
Wht86drop
¯
Member # 12104
|
posted
How can i install a SVO brake system up front on my 86 ttop? Is it just straight replacement or do i have to change the whole shabang?
-------------------- Jalapeña Red 86 GT Vert Yellow 72 Chevelle Rio Red 97 Cobra
High-Output Generations CC
Posts: 1669 | From: East Palo Alto, Fiji Islands | Registered: Jun 2012
| :
|
|
fredfifty
Since 9/2010
Member # 10320
|
posted
for the fronts, 50resto sells the SVO 73mm calipers and it says they are a direct bolt on (if you have V8 spindles/rotors) [ 2014-01-16, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: fredfifty ]
-------------------- RIP EDSON VELORO IM A NOOB, EXCUSE ME. THANKS. 92 LX Coupe 5.0 CARB'd BOLT-ONS SMOG LEGAL 62 Rag Impala
Posts: 4948 | Registered: Sep 2010
| :
|
|
Wht86drop
¯
Member # 12104
|
posted
So it doesnt matter on what year the spindles are? As long as they are from a V8 i should be fine correct?
-------------------- Jalapeña Red 86 GT Vert Yellow 72 Chevelle Rio Red 97 Cobra
High-Output Generations CC
Posts: 1669 | From: East Palo Alto, Fiji Islands | Registered: Jun 2012
| :
|
|
|
redvenom
¯
Member # 12651
|
posted
quote: Originally posted by Wht86drop: So it doesnt matter on what year the spindles are? As long as they are from a V8 i should be fine correct?
I'm pretty sure but not 100% .....I'm sure someone will corect me if I'm wrong
-------------------- 1990 Gt Some what stock 1993 GT vert-(stolen)
Posts: 623 | From: cali | Registered: Dec 2012
| :
|
|
MUSTTANGUY
¯
Member # 2251
|
posted
If you want to stay 4 lug and want a slightly better brake setup for your 86 I would go with the 87-93 V8 spindles, rotors (these are 11"), and the Lincoln MK7 calipers (73mm) Ditch those 10" rotors. SVO spindles use a larger balljoint so the spindle wont fit your 86's control arm. If you are wanting to go 5 lug, I would go with the 94/95 setup which is a far improvement with room to upgrade in future.
-------------------- Tim (Musttanguy) 97 5.0 coupe 82 GT 427/T56/9"
Posts: 1690 | From: Lodi | Registered: Dec 2002
| :
|
|
racsirx
CAFords OG
Member # 1710
|
posted
quote: Originally posted by MUSTTANGUY: If you want to stay 4 lug and want a slightly better brake setup for your 86 I would go with the 87-93 V8 spindles, rotors (these are 11"), and the Lincoln MK7 calipers (73mm) Ditch those 10" rotors. SVO spindles use a larger balljoint so the spindle wont fit your 86's control arm. If you are wanting to go 5 lug, I would go with the 94/95 setup which is a far improvement with room to upgrade in future.
Tim, don't forget if he goes with a 94/95 GT brakes in the front, he can upgrade to 99-04 calipers for even more braking.
-------------------- 88 Saleen #564 88 GT 331 NOVI2000 88 Coupe TURBO 9.75@142 95 Cobra R #75-SOLD 06 F250 13 BMW AH3 17 GT350 #5556 GOD'S NOT DEAD
Posts: 20750 | From: Concord & Pittsburg, CA | Registered: Aug 2002
| :
|
|
Wht86drop
¯
Member # 12104
|
posted
Thanks guys i appreciate the help. One more question. When and if i do the 94/95 spindles, do i have to change the ball joints as well or can i get away with throwing in a bunch of washers on topto compensate for the length of the ball joint? My brakes are metal to metal now so i would need to do this swap asap. If anyone has spindle pm me. Im trying to sell the car after i fix all the issues it has.
-------------------- Jalapeña Red 86 GT Vert Yellow 72 Chevelle Rio Red 97 Cobra
High-Output Generations CC
Posts: 1669 | From: East Palo Alto, Fiji Islands | Registered: Jun 2012
| :
|
|
Tom Renzo
¯
Member # 13165
|
posted
You have to shim the nut with washers. And only the offset spindles will work. Otherwise the steering geometry will be off. I use mustang offset spindles 94-95 ONLY!! [ 2014-01-16, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: Tom Renzo ]
-------------------- I spend money i don't have. Building cars i don't need. To impress people i don't know.
Posts: 557 | From: CT | Registered: Sep 2013
| :
|
|
Duncan Motors
¯
Member # 7045
|
posted
i think the svo uses a bigger wider balljoint, this isnt like throwing the sn 95 stuff on a fox and then adding washers to compensate the cotter pin hole, i think the ball joint is larger in diameter
Posts: 6310 | From: Vallejo | Registered: Sep 2006
| :
|
|
MUSTTANGUY
¯
Member # 2251
|
posted
I supply spacers with all of my 94/95 reconditioned spindle sets. This allows you to install the 94/95 spindles onto the fox control arm without changing the ball joints. While you "can" use washers to shim the height of the castle nut I am NOT a fan of doing so. You can upgrade to the 99-04 GT/V6 calipers but you must clearance the radius on the spindle for it to fit. I do this to ALL of the 94/95 spindle sets I sell (over 150 sets to date) You are correct Duncan, the SVO uses a larger diameter ball joint stud.
-------------------- Tim (Musttanguy) 97 5.0 coupe 82 GT 427/T56/9"
Posts: 1690 | From: Lodi | Registered: Dec 2002
| :
|
|
|
Tom Renzo
¯
Member # 13165
|
posted
Mustang guy. Just a question why do you not like shimming the castle nut?? I have found some extra long castle nuts from a TC. Question over the years MOOG has furnished washers with many of there ball joints for this reason. Not only on FORDS as i can remember. So i guess you provide a solid spacer which i agree is 100% better. But according to MOOG washers are acceptible and supplied with several of their joints. Please respond i am interested in your issue with washers as i am also. Thanks
-------------------- I spend money i don't have. Building cars i don't need. To impress people i don't know.
Posts: 557 | From: CT | Registered: Sep 2013
| :
|
|
MUSTTANGUY
¯
Member # 2251
|
posted
quote: Originally posted by Tom Renzo: Mustang guy. Just a question why do you not like shimming the castle nut?? I have found some extra long castle nuts from a TC. Question over the years MOOG has furnished washers with many of there ball joints for this reason. Not only on FORDS as i can remember. So i guess you provide a solid spacer which i agree is 100% better. But according to MOOG washers are acceptible and supplied with several of their joints. Please respond i am interested in your issue with washers as i am also. Thanks
In theory, you would have the possibility of more rotational stress with greater ease since you are using 3-4 washers per side which would be easier to rotate between each washer than that of a spacer which has two contact spots (on spindle below and castle nut above) A lot of guys are going to go buy zinc plated washers which in time will rust. While a lot of guys do in fact use washers and have had no problems, I have always used 304 stainless steel machined spacers which is harder than mild steel and doesn't rust. I just can't bring myself to stack washers, nor do I want my customers doing so with my spindles.
-------------------- Tim (Musttanguy) 97 5.0 coupe 82 GT 427/T56/9"
Posts: 1690 | From: Lodi | Registered: Dec 2002
| :
|
|
Tom Renzo
¯
Member # 13165
|
posted
I totally agree and you are correct. I spoke to MOOG about this and they say there washers are hardened. I checked them and that is true. I hate stacking washers as it looks crappy and unprofessional. Have you seen the long castle nuts the TC comes with. They work a lot better than shims. Normally replacing the joint is the way to go. Thank you for your reply and i visited you website. I could not get past the first page is it new?? I use those spindles on occasion and they are getting hard to come buy. My junk yard sends me all he gets but they are hard to come by now. Thanks again nice talking shop with you. TOM!
-------------------- I spend money i don't have. Building cars i don't need. To impress people i don't know.
Posts: 557 | From: CT | Registered: Sep 2013
| :
|
|
4 CAM FOX
¯
Member # 11891
|
posted
quote: Originally posted by racsirx: quote: Originally posted by MUSTTANGUY: If you want to stay 4 lug and want a slightly better brake setup for your 86 I would go with the 87-93 V8 spindles, rotors (these are 11"), and the Lincoln MK7 calipers (73mm) Ditch those 10" rotors. SVO spindles use a larger balljoint so the spindle wont fit your 86's control arm. If you are wanting to go 5 lug, I would go with the 94/95 setup which is a far improvement with room to upgrade in future.
Tim, don't forget if he goes with a 94/95 GT brakes in the front, he can upgrade to 99-04 calipers for even more braking.
Or just go to any parts store and buy re-manned cobra calipers and 13" rotors for a little more than the cost of used PBR brakes. Skip the grinding on the spindles. 99% of parts guys wont know you're not giving them back a Cobra core.
-------------------- "The clutch is on the left. Gas on the right." "What's this one in the middle?" "It's for pussies."
Posts: 1798 | From: NOR*CAL | Registered: Apr 2012
| :
|
|