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so i was thinking bout upgrading my gears to 3:73s: question. is there any other vehicles that i can get these gears from? any dofference from stock 3:73s that came in other fords compared to ford racing 3:73s? i work at pik n pu;; and if ican save me some money why not? but also i need an opinion and whats better
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Any 8.8 ring/gear set should work. Explorers, f150, even some jeeps have the 8.8.

If you take more than the ring/pinion then it gets complicated with 28 vs 31 spline.

Also make sure you take the shims, you may need them because the 3.73 is thicker.

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Never use used gears if possible. They are cheap enough to buy and set up properly they will live a long time.

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So ive looked and I was looking at sone of the explorer rears and im not sure what to get. Some tags say 3L73 8.8 and sum say 3.73 8.8 whats yhe differece?
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gears will be the same, it just the 3L73 is limited slip
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So just getvthe non "L" right? Theyre both possi no?
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no, only the L is. but either one of the gears will work
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So Dam cheap why use old gears that have been run in. We never use old gears or swap over gears it is just not a good idea.

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/M420988373/Mustang-Ford-Racing-Rear-End-Gears-M-4209-88373?utm_source=google-shopping&utm_medium=comparison-shopping&utm_campaign=google-sh opping-v2&year=1996&gclid=CJzU5dHZn7sCFSRk7AodLUcAtA

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He did say what vehicles have the gears he can use I seen plenty ppl run used gears including my self using same gear I ran in my 2002 since 05 no whine and I installed them myself

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Originally posted by Tom Renzo:
So Dam cheap why use old gears that have been run in. We never use old gears or swap over gears it is just not a good idea.

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/M420988373/Mustang-Ford-Racing-Rear-End-Gears-M-4209-88373?utm_source=google-shopping&utm_medium=comparison-shopping&utm_campaign=google-sh opping-v2&year=1996&gclid=CJzU5dHZn7sCFSRk7AodLUcAtA

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Reason why he wants to take it out of a used car is because shimming it and all the crap you would go through to install brand new gears yourself is hard so getting a complete unit and straight installing it is easier

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Just for the record whenever you install any gears in a different housing they have to be EXACTLY set up as the doner housing . Another words used gears are much harder to set up. New gears are not run in yet. You just cant change them around with out setting them up. New or old the procedure is the same but old gears are run in and have to be set exactly as the old unit they came from. So you need the setting numbers from the old housing and use the exact setting in the new housing you are putting them in. This is why so many gear changes i do in my shop are messed up by other shops or individuals is so profitable to me.Most people do not know how to set up gears . Either way you need specialized tools and knowledge of how to set them up. Bottom line new gears are easier to set up. Most gears give you pinion depth numbers as ball park. Ford gears do not. Most aftermarket gears give you pinion depth. But the 8.8 does not. So pattern setting is critical and back lash still has to be dun either way. And he will still have to crush a new sleeve either way so he has to set the gears up either way.If it a is cost issue i can understand that. Thanks!!

[ 2013-12-08, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: Tom Renzo ]

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Originally posted by Tom Renzo:
Just for the record whenever you install any gears in a different housing they have to be EXACTLY set up as the doner housing . Another words used gears are much harder to set up. New gears are not run in yet. You just cant change them around with out setting them up. New or old the procedure is the same but old gears are run in and have to be set exactly as the old unit they came from. So you need the setting numbers from the old housing and use the exact setting in the new housing you are putting them in. This is why so many gear changes i do in my shop are messed up by other shops or individuals is so profitable to me.Most people do not know how to set up gears . Either way you need specialized tools and knowledge of how to set them up. Bottom line new gears are easier to set up. Most gears give you pinion depth numbers as ball park. Ford gears do not. Most aftermarket gears give you pinion depth. But the 8.8 does not. So pattern setting is critical and back lash still has to be dun either way. And he will still have to crush a new sleeve either way so he has to set the gears up either way.If it a is cost issue i can understand that. Thanks!!

I never use used gears!!!

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It is never good to use used gears. Been doing final drives for a really ling time and i learned the hard way many years ago. New gears are a must. Thank you

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Well if you are on a buget by all means go for it.....but it would be wise to spend the few dollars and get new gears [patriot]

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I totally understand trying to save money. That is a given. Good luck Tom

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alot of folks on here have run used gears with lil to no problems, used gears any dam gears all have to be shimmed or set up, no two houseing are the same. but as a shop its impossible to warranty some body's install with used stuff, so used gears go for 100 bucks, new is 70 bucks more, as a shop id almost pay the difference to 100 percent make sure the job goes with no hiccups long term. as a coustomer quit being cheap lol
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