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Topic: How much is safe to spray on a stock motor?
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norcalfiddy
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im looking into spraying my motor for a little while until i go boosted.
motor will be a e303 cammed, ported heads, full exhaust, intake, other little bolt ons 5.0.
im only gunna spray when i need it, so i shouldnt do too much harm to the motor.
and my question is, how much can i safely spray on it? i was looking at a 35-75hp NX proton kit.
is that safe enough to spray? and would the cam be good to spray with?
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Camara90
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You will be fine. I prefer the dry kits for a small shot like that, but the wet will work fine. I would also consider a dry Zex kit. You could always use it in conjunction with a blower in the future depending on how stout of a motor you build.
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Posts: 2351 | From: 707 | Registered: Jan 2001
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norcalfiddy
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Originally posted by Camara90:
You will be fine. I prefer the dry kits for a small shot like that, but the wet will work fine. I would also consider a dry Zex kit. You could always use it in conjunction with a blower in the future depending on how stout of a motor you build.
ok cool. and is the kit im looking at dry or wet? it doesnt say in the jegs and summit catalogs..
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Camara90
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I believe those kits are wet, post up the link so I can see.
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92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans.
std. 356hp, 350tq
11.85@111.9mph on motor.
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SLOWSN95
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Stock motors will take 125-150 shots all day. Just gotta make sure you have the proper fuel delivery.
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norcalfiddy
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Originally posted by SLOWSN95:
Stock motors will take 125-150 shots all day. Just gotta make sure you have the proper fuel delivery.
really? i have stock injectors and rails with a 190gph fuel pump. would that be fine?
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norcalfiddy
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Originally posted by Camara90:
I believe those kits are wet, post up the link so I can see.
yea just looked. its wet, thanks
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norcalfiddy
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also, would you have to change the timing? if so, what should it be at?
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Pure Stang
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I was told for every 50 shot it's 2 degrees that has to be taken out. And different plugs have to be run.
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HaulinAss Motorsports
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Originally posted by norcalfiddy:
i was looking at a 35-75hp NX proton kit.
is that safe enough to spray? and would the cam be good to spray with?
If this is truly what you are planning to run (hp wise) then you do not have to worry about fuel delivery, colder plugs or timing. And yes the cam works well with Nitrous.
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SLOWSN95
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Originally posted by norcalfiddy:
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Originally posted by SLOWSN95:
Stock motors will take 125-150 shots all day. Just gotta make sure you have the proper fuel delivery.
really? i have stock injectors and rails with a 190gph fuel pump. would that be fine?
As long as its a wet shot like you say it is, I dont see why it wouldn't work. If it were a dry shot then I'd highly advise you to upgrade the injectors as well. Just make sure everything is setup correctly by someone that is nitrous-knowledgeable.
Some people say retard 2 degrees for every 50shot.. but most people say retard 1 degree for every 50shot. Its really to each his own. Some people are more cautious than others.
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turbo50
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I ran a 215 shot for a year on my stock longblock 89 5.0.
Went a best of 12.20 at 114
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norcalfiddy
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I ran a 215 shot for a year on my stock longblock 89 5.0.
Went a best of 12.20 at 114
really? damn, i think im gunna just run a 100 shot to keep it safe
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norcalfiddy
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Originally posted by HaulinAss Motorsports:
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Originally posted by norcalfiddy:
i was looking at a 35-75hp NX proton kit.
is that safe enough to spray? and would the cam be good to spray with?
If this is truly what you are planning to run (hp wise) then you do not have to worry about fuel delivery, colder plugs or timing. And yes the cam works well with Nitrous.
ok, yea thats what im most likely gunna run, maybe 100 shot at the most. it will be fine? thanks
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Saleen 00-768
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what about the NOS 75-100hp efi dry kit for 579$ @ summit?
whats more suitable for a completley stock 5 liter, wet or dry?
is there one brand better than the other? any pros n cons over the brands?
nitrous works
zex
nos
for 100hp jets all thats required is 91 octane, upgraded fuel pump, 1 step colder plugs, and retarded timing, is this correct?
[ December 24, 2011, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
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BIGBALLFACTOR
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if it starts knocking or shoting the rods out of the block.back it off a little or pill intill you kill it
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turbo50
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dynotunenitrous
cheap simple and effective.
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Saleen 00-768
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Originally posted by turbo50:
dynotunenitrous
cheap simple and effective.
thank you dan,
i appreciate your input
thats the first ive heard of them, would you recomend a fuel pump upgrade or a fpr with their kit @ 100 shot?,
what are your thoghts on the nitrous works kit with 70mm tb plate?
http://www.poweredbyford.com/store/Nitrous_Works_86-93_5.0L_Mustang_70MM_Plate_50-175_HP
it looks clean n simple but a lil more pricey than the dynotune kit, but i like it more..
again thanks ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
[ December 24, 2011, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
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turbo50
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Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
dynotunenitrous
cheap simple and effective.
thank you dan,
i appreciate your input
thats the first ive heard of them, would you recomend a fuel pump upgrade or a fpr with their kit @ 100 shot?,
what are your thoghts on the nitrous works kit with 70mm tb plate?
http://www.poweredbyford.com/store/Nitrous_Works_86-93_5.0L_Mustang_70MM_Plate_50-175_HP
it looks clean n simple but a lil more pricey than the dynotune kit, but i like it more..
again thanks
The nitrous works kit bangs hard and is what I ran. I loved it. Maxed at 215hp.
I would run an auxiliary fuel pump no matter what if it is in the budget. Wet kits I feel you can get away without one with a good in tank pump and 100shot but thats jus me and very argueable.
Dynotune is great and great for the price if you are on a budget.
Like anything this can get expensive.
Dan
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Saleen 00-768
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
dynotunenitrous
cheap simple and effective.
thank you dan,
i appreciate your input
thats the first ive heard of them, would you recomend a fuel pump upgrade or a fpr with their kit @ 100 shot?,
what are your thoghts on the nitrous works kit with 70mm tb plate?
http://www.poweredbyford.com/store/Nitrous_Works_86-93_5.0L_Mustang_70MM_Plate_50-175_HP
it looks clean n simple but a lil more pricey than the dynotune kit, but i like it more..
again thanks
The nitrous works kit bangs hard and is what I ran. I loved it. Maxed at 215hp.
I would run an auxiliary fuel pump no matter what if it is in the budget. Wet kits I feel you can get away without one with a good in tank pump and 100shot but thats jus me and very argueable.
Dynotune is great and great for the price if you are on a budget.
Like anything this can get expensive.
Dan
Thank you for all the good info !! ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
and Merry Christmas ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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