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bunchmyfunky
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I'm in need of a K-member A-arms & Coil Over kit for my 4.6 Looking to do mostly a drag setup. I've been looking at the PA and the AJE's. Thoughts? Motor is coming out so it will be the perfect time to put this in [Big Grin]

[ October 28, 2005, 11:45 PM: Message edited by: bunchmyfunky ]

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I have the AJE set up in my fox. It was definetley worth it. I only daily drive and do a few street races. I'm not sure how it would do in a sn95 but am sure it will be well worth it also. [patriot]

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Call Maximum Motorsports and they'll hook u up with a good set up...i used my GT in autocrossing and i used various Maximum Motorsports Chassis Parts...they're awsome...

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The 2 best K-Members are made by Griggs and Maximum Motorsports. If you want something which is very light get the Griggs unit. OR you can also get the Maximum Motorsports unit which is also very good. Griggs and Maximum Motorsports make the best suspension systems for the Mustangs.. BAR NONE.

Give us a call at the shop and I am sure we can take care of you. We have in stock most suspension components from Griggs and Maximum

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[ October 29, 2005, 12:39 AM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]

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[ November 06, 2006, 01:31 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]

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A friend of mine has a 93 notch that he drags and he's got the QA1 setup. Pretty nice setup, has worked great for him and his low 11 second car. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by season'd 88:
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Originally posted by bunchmyfunky:

Mark, If i did it again it would be Griggs for the weight not necessarily the strength. Keeping your funds local never hurts either [Wink]
season'd 88,

Thanks ALOT! I really appreaciate that! Our shop's success depends on local customers such as yourself [Smile]

[ October 30, 2005, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]

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yeah but for a budget griggs doesnt really fit in

i have seen the griggs k member and it seems to be a very nice piece, i have been working around one on a car for a the last two years

but for a drag car its probably not needed

check out pa and aje, get either one if u cant afford the griggs, or want to spend the money elsewhere

[ October 30, 2005, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: 66 AC COBRA ]

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quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
yeah but for a budjet griggs doesnt really fit in

i have seen the griggs k member and it seems to be a very nice piece, i have been working around one on a car for a the last two years

but for a drag car its probably not needed

check out pa and aje, get either one if u cant afford the griggs, or want to spend the money elsewhere

[patriot]

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Yes Griggs & Maximum is more expensive but only about $200 of so more for the unit. If you are going to keep your car for the long term, why not spend a little more and get something FAR superior than PA, AJE, Granatelli, QA1, etc. Maximum and Griggs and Maximum have years/ seasons of racing testing to improve their product every year. Griggs and Maximum products are made in the USA. Alot of other products are made in China and use inferior steel.

Also, the Griggs and Maximum units will change the geometry of your K-member to improve handling which the AJE does not.

[ October 30, 2005, 12:10 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]

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quote:
Originally posted by mustanggt5091:
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
yeah but for a budjet griggs doesnt really fit in

i have seen the griggs k member and it seems to be a very nice piece, i have been working around one on a car for a the last two years

but for a drag car its probably not needed

check out pa and aje, get either one if u cant afford the griggs, or want to spend the money elsewhere

[patriot]
Thanks everyone for the input.

I will never buy anything that's "Griggs" after the screwing he gave to 9Cobra8. From the research that I've done I think I will be going with PA they seem to fit all my needs.

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Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:
Yes Griggs & Maximum is more expensive but only about $200 of so more for the unit. If you are going to keep your car for the long term, why not spend a little more and get something FAR superior than PA, AJE, Granatelli, QA1, etc. Maximum and Griggs and Maximum have years/ seasons of racing testing to improve their product every year. Griggs and Maximum products are made in the USA. Alot of other products are made in China and use inferior steel.

before you start saying everything is made in china [Roll Eyes] its not

dnd, upr, yeah garbage, it could be made in taiwan who cares

aje and pa are of good quality

this is for a drag car, street car, not an autocross or open track car

and PA vs griggs

how does 629.99 - 249.99 = 200, unless you sell it for 180 less than griggs website

im fine with you trying to sell a good product and keeping your business alive, but dont skew the facts and put other good products down in the process

if mark goes with a griggs, he should buy it from you, but he should also spend his money wisely, and 600+ for a k member only doesnt seem to wise

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Griggs hand down is the best..I've had three cars with parts from them...Yes, they are expensive..Yes, John griggs is a tight ass, but they know what their talking about when I go up there and ask questions...i have put every bit of GR40 suspension on my 91 and I can saw off pretty much any car that comes at me on the road...when it comes to money, I'd rather spend a lil bit more than a lot later on due to a k-member breaking or something like that....

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
" before you start saying everything is made in china [Roll Eyes] its not
dnd, upr, yeah garbage, it could be made in taiwan who cares
aje and pa are of good quality
this is for a drag car, street car, not an autocross or open track car
and PA vs griggs
how does 629.99 - 249.99 = 200, unless you sell it for 180 less than griggs website
im fine with you trying to sell a good product and keeping your business alive, but dont skew the facts and put other good products down in the process
if mark goes with a griggs, he should buy it from you, but he should also spend his money wisely, and 600+ for a k member only doesnt seem to wise"


OK, Let's look at the REAL prices for the PA K-Member. Also, PA states on their website, "NOTE: While we sell this product as "streetable", it is still a race-inspired piece and may not be choice for an everyday drive" PA's pricing is very deceptive and does not include all the options most people want or need.

PA Unit
$250=Base Unit
$50= Standard 5.0L and 4.6L Mounts (Optional)
$150=Road Race Option: Provides for extra bracing and thicker material (.120 DOM Tubing)(Optional)
$50=Drop Rack (Optional)
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$500=with all the options tha Griggs & Maximum Motorsports INCLUDES!


$649.99=Maximum Motorsports K-Member
$629.99=Griggs Racing K-Member
-Standard Motor Mounts (No charge, unlike PA)
-reduces weight
-Widens track and wheelbase of car (Which PA and many others does not)
-Engines are setback into the firewall about 1" to improve weight distibution (Which PA and many others does not)
-Changes the geometry for improved handling (Which PA and many others does not)

So, thanks for correcting me... I was mistaken... the costs is NOT $200 more it is ONLY $130-$150 depending if you get a Griggs or Maximum K-Member. AND yes, if you purchase it from us, the difference will even be lower. The choice is up to him... BUT if it was up to me I would spend the extra $150 and purchase a product made by one of the companies which pioneered the best suspensions available for the Mustang. In fact, Motor Trend Magazine called the Griggs Racing suspension the BEST aftermarket suspension available for the Mustang.

[ October 30, 2005, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]

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Apex,

With all due respect to companies that you sell/support (i.e. Griggs), could you please shed some light as to why you feel AJE is inferior? AJE is very well known for their awesome drag suspension, including the k-member, one piece race strut with drop spindle, etc.

Greg

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Greg,

Unfortunately AJE's website really does not tell you much about the product. It just says it lowers the weight, better steering, etc... it does not go into detail why their's is good. So I do not feel compfortable giving an accurate comparison for the 3 products.

We recently had a chance to pickup another K-Member manufacturer which was ALOT cheaper than Griggs/ Maximum. They approached us and sent us samples. after looking at the samples, trying fitment, we decided there really was no comparison.

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I haven't heard anything bad about the PA Products from any of the Modular guys on other boards only good reviews and they do offer a 1"inch setback. I understang that you want to sell your products to people on the board but what you have doesn't really fit my needs or budget. I can get a complete PA K-member kit with A-arms and coilovers for Under $800. And with my budget and the many other things that I'm doing I have to look at the best bang for my buck.
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Honestly,

I have owned a Griggs equipped car WAY before I ever owned Apex. I am just giving my opinion as to why I think Maximum & Griggs are superior. I am sure AJE product is not bad after you add all the options. BUT, IMO for the small amount of difference between Griggs/ Maximum VS. AJE+Options I do not think is worth going with AJE... BUT that is my opinion.

[ October 30, 2005, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]

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thats the point, mark is not going to pay all the options for thicker material, more strength, dropped rack, etc

he just wants the weight savings,

this is a street/strip car with drag style suspension, this is what i have been saying this whole time, the options make the aje/pa k member almost as much as the griggs but mark isnt going to need it

if this was a car that would EVER see autocross or open track duty we wouldnt be having this argument, but we are because its not

do you have a dart/r302 block and a full rollcage in your mustang??

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Well, as a consumer myself of high performance parts, even before I bought Apex.... I learned it is better to have a setup a little better than what you need or else you might end up spending more money replacing items in the future. BUT, if he is happing with the AJE setup then more power to him.
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