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Topic: Vortech v1 compared to Vortech v2 on a Cobra
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BlownCobra98
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I know the V1 Vortech is for a 2v GT and it has a bigger air flow than the V2 Vortech Cobra charger. Would it be beneficial to use a V1 even though I have a V2. Cus I want to upgrade to a T-trim later and just want to know should I just stick with my V2 s-trim vortech and then upgrade to a T-trim for my cobra.
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Posts: 142 | From: Carmichael | Registered: Aug 2005
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BlownCobra98
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man people don't know to much on here.
Posts: 142 | From: Carmichael | Registered: Aug 2005
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SmokinLX
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Correct me if im wrong but v-1 is a strait cut gear and gives the classic votech whine where as the v-2 has a heli cut gear which is almost silent. v-1 or v-2 have nothing to do with flow capibilities of a blower thats why there are a,sc,s,etc.......
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Posts: 4388 | From: East Bay | Registered: Aug 2002
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94gt
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yeah we are all idiots, and i Found this straight off their website
one of the biggest chokers on a s/c set up is the inlet and discharge tube diameter... High PSI is nice but airflow efficeny is better
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VORTECH V-1 S-TRIM SUPERCHARGER
The industry standard supercharger
Fits engines up to 680 horsepower
Maximum airflow: 1,000 CFM
Maximum boost pressure: 20 PSI
Absolute maximum impeller speed: 50,000 RPM
Adiabatic efficiency: 72%
Available with straight or curved discharge and clockwise or counterclockwise rotation
Part numbers below do not include drive pulley
8.75" Wide, 9.44" Tall, 5.52" Deep (not including input shaft)
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VORTECH V-2 SC-TRIM SUPERCHARGER
Fits engines up to 680 horsepower
Maximum airflow: 1,000 CFM
Maximum boost pressure: 20 PSI
Absolute maximum impeller speed: 53,000 RPM
Adiabatic efficiency: 75%
Available with straight or curved discharge
Part numbers below do not include drive pulley
8.75" Wide, 9.44" Tall, 5.52" Deep (not including input shaft)
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VORTECH V-2 SQ (Super Quiet) SUPERCHARGER
The new generation supercharger included in most Vortech street supercharging systems
Helical cut gear profile with SQ technology
Near silent operation
Fits engines up to 680 horsepower
Maximum airflow: 1,000 CFM
Maximum boost pressure: 20 PSI
Maximum impeller speed: 50,000 RPM
Adiabatic efficiency: 72%
Available with straight or curved discharge and clockwise or counterclockwise rotation
more info:
Flow and boost ratings are based upon efficiency. All Vortech superchargers can exceed these ratings but they cannot perform efficiently above these ratings. Vortech uses an efficiency rating of 60% and above as the approximate minimum usefull range.
** Efficiency shown is for straight discharge. Curved discharge is 1-2% lower
[ September 01, 2005, 12:16 AM: Message edited by: 94gt ]
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BlownCobra98
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thanks guys I will look into it.
Posts: 142 | From: Carmichael | Registered: Aug 2005
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69DodgeCharger
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basically the v1Strim will make more boost at a givin RPM compared to a v2SC trim because the impeller on the sctrim is less efficiant than the impeller in the s-trim. S-trim with 3.6 pulley makes 8 psi on a stock motor at about 6Krpms. while a sc-trim will make 8 lbs at 7k rpm's. That is basically what I was explaining to you over the phone the other day. Anyways if you are planning on upgrading blowers to a t-trim I wouldnt bother swaping to the v-1. If you want the polished blower like we were talking about just have vortech polish it for you when you upgrade. The polish is about $200.
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NO MANRZ
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Your post is a little misleading. (69dodgecharger)
There are these blowers from vortech
v1 s-trim
v1 sc-trim
v2 s-trim
v2 sc-trim
Now the s-trim is the gt head unit. The sc-trim is the cobra s-trim hence the C is sC-trim. 69 dodge charger got this part right. Now take a v1 s-trim vs a v2 s-trim. The v2 in theory should make more power faster because it has a higher step up internal gear ratio. This should make a broader hp/tq curve, but it is not always the case.
You need to figure out if you are going to keep the motor stock. If so go with the s-trim. You will be able to use a bigger pulley when compared with a sC-trim because you will not have to spin the blower as hard to make the same amount of boost. The sc-trim is just an s-trim with a clipped impeller, so that is why it can't make the same amount of boost with the same pulley. If you are going to go with the built motor route, you will want the t-trim. This is offered again in v1 and v2. This blower will need to be spun harder and faster than the s-trim to feel/have a good power band. You are going to also want to swap to 8 rib or else you are going to be hard pressed to make high boost.
You can always put a huge blower on a stock motor, but the feeling you get from driving the car is nothing compared the feeling of a smaller sized blower that works in its efficiency range.
The same thing goes with turbos, you always need to take a close look at the compressor map. Put too big of a turbo on a motor and it will be a total dog until the last 1-2K rpms. Is that fun, nope, not at all.
If you want around 400-525 rwhp go with the s-trim. If you want 525-650rwhp go with a the t-trim. If you want 660-840rwhp the next step is a jt-trim.
To answer your question, do you have a v2 S-trim or a v2 SC-trim? If you have a v2 sc-trim or the v2 s-trim just send the blower to vortech and have them upgrade the interals to the t-trim. It will run you 1000 all said and done. There is no reson to upgrade a sc-trim to a s-trim impeller if you want to later to a t-trim upgrade. It would be like pissing your money away.
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94gt
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Originally posted by NO MANRZ:
Now the s-trim is the gt head unit. The sc-trim is the cobra s-trim hence the C is sC-trim.
where does it say that? in my vortech book, the only difference it mentioned was for the FMU, where you had to install a different disc in there
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NO MANRZ
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It says that from the horses mouth. I've talked to them many times about this before.
edit - This is only for modular motor cars.
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94gt
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quote:
Originally posted by NO MANRZ:
edit - This is only for modular motor cars.
Ah! My apologies.. I thought we were talking in reference to 5.0's ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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69DodgeCharger
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I know my post is not exactly what he was asking. I was talking with him on the phone before he made the post, and I think the way I worded things made him ask the question a little different than he should have, so I was just trying to answere what he really needed to know. He has a v2-sctrim, and I have a v1-strim he wanted to swap me blowers because I was selling my car and he wanted the polished blower and was curious what the differences between the two were.
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SmokinLX
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quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:
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Originally posted by NO MANRZ:
edit - This is only for modular motor cars.
Ah! My apologies.. I thought we were talking in reference to 5.0's
Me too.
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