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Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on
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Mark took me out the first round in bracket2.
I suck at bracket racing... ![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on
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I heard Christ Alston Jr. took Outlaw with a 7.54 at 183 mph ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
I heard Christ Alston Jr. took Outlaw with a 7.54 at 183 mph
I hope that jason's problem was something stupid like a loose fitting or something, i wouls have like to see him take out alston ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
I heard Christ Alston Jr. took Outlaw with a 7.54 at 183 mph
I hope that jason's problem was something stupid like a loose fitting or something, i wouls have like to see him take out alston
Are you talking about the Red Saleen? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by stockishlx (Member # 5804) on
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i heard it was another loose fitting and due to that ANOTHER siezed turbo ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by stockishlx:
i heard it was another loose fitting and due to that ANOTHER siezed turbo
Yeah thats what he told us is what happened in Vegas. The oil line blew ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
That thing would have been badass to see run!
I got a tight picture of it i will post later
Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
I heard Christ Alston Jr. took Outlaw with a 7.54 at 183 mph
I hope that jason's problem was something stupid like a loose fitting or something, i wouls have like to see him take out alston
I would liked to have seen those 2 race. Alston had a huge advantage being that his car is a damn bracket car and has run several sevens at Sac. Jason has a lot of power and has been down the Sac track many a times when it is not prepped well causing a lot of tire spin/shake.
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on
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This is one clean ass dragster! He didn't ruin it with stickers all over the paint.
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
This is one clean ass dragster! He didn't ruin it with stickers all over the paint.
![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
I think everyone was a little dissapointed when that car did'nt make it through the burnout. Hope it's nothing to expensive!
Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on
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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
This is one clean ass dragster! He didn't ruin it with stickers all over the paint.
I think everyone was a little dissapointed when that car did'nt make it through the burnout. Hope it's nothing to expensive!
I was lucky enough to see him run once at a TnT about a year ago...
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on
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Knocked out in the first round (10.8@134.6) by a carb'd car in Stroker+PA. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
No offense to the folks putting on the event, but it was a cluster-fuck. I don't know why they even bothered with lanes, no one stayed in them.
Did they even finish up? It was after 11 when I split...and they were still running.
[ September 11, 2005, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: JohnB ]
Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on
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Originally posted by JohnB:
Knocked out in the first round (10.8@134.6) by a carb'd car in Stroker+PA. No offense to the folks putting on the event, but it was a cluster-fuck. I don't know why they even bothered with lanes, no one stayed in them.
Did they even finish up? It was after 11 when I split...and they were still running.
Besides that...getting only three runs for $55 is kinda weak too and what happened to a loser lane???
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on
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Originally posted by JohnB:
Knocked out in the first round (10.8@134.6) by a carb'd car in Stroker+PA. No offense to the folks putting on the event, but it was a cluster-fuck. I don't know why they even bothered with lanes, no one stayed in them.
Did they even finish up? It was after 11 when I split...and they were still running.
finished at 12 or maybe a little after, there was some drama with that turbo yellow camaro in SPA, he was hiding out in the pits and got a bye run in the 1st race, then wanted another bye run to put him im the finals
the staff said no to that dumbass, then brian in the faster white buick ran him for fun and cleaned him out easily ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on
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That car was supposedly from LA. I couldn't help but wonder why a person would drive all that way for what, $500? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
And thats IF they won.
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on
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Originally posted by JohnB:
That car was supposedly from LA. I couldn't help but wonder why a person would drive all that way for what, $500? And thats IF they won.
and he didnt
i still think its funny that he made one qualifying pass then thought that he could bye his way into the finals, after the winner had been crowned
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
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Originally posted by JohnB:
That car was supposedly from LA. I couldn't help but wonder why a person would drive all that way for what, $500? And thats IF they won.
and he didnt
i still think its funny that he made one qualifying pass then thought that he could bye his way into the finals, after the winner had been crowned
Yeah we were talking to john with the turbo blue striped 5.0 and that guy pulled up and asked him some questions, and the guy came off like an ass-no big surprise I guess.
Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on
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JohnB was robbed by a racing a car that was NOT legal for the class it was in.
bunchmyfunky had to go up after the oil down and try and race in the damn speedy dry- so no wonder he spun and went no-where. bogus. And what happened to Ford vs. Chevy??? Cars were simply run how they were lined up and quite a few imprts were racing, too. The LS1 RX7's were cool and I can see letting those guys run in an LS1 sponsered event. And why were all those race cars that raced during the day allowed to run in Bracket 1???
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Yes it was a cluster fuck.
I got there around 5:45 & they were just letting people in. 30 minutes later & they were still running the cars from the previous event....& no one was teching the incoming cars.
Rob, his wife Krissy, Heather & I did our best to blow everybody through tech since it was getting so late. Sorry if I put a few of you in the wrong class.....we were more concerned with getting the racing started as we teched the last car at 7:45!
They had 8 classes & 7 lanes with no lane designated for lossers....nor any lane designated for each class....which I took care of a little late & that's why there was some confusion on who was in what lane. I tried my best to have them open up lane 1 for fun runs....but after the turbo car layed down a few quarts of oil......they decided to let the lossers sit in the Pit area..... Some of those guys got only 2 runs in. Then there was the 'cleanup' of the oil. Why Brandon didn't burn it off I don't know....but that lane was useless after 40 minutes of cleanup.
At that point it was 10:30pm.....there was no way they were going to be able to open up a fun-run lane.
IMO the event was great to watch, I had a good time doing what I could to keep things moving, but it was not well orginized (a lot of standing around talking & little action) & most of the racers had plenty to complain about. I would too if I'd been racing.
In the end....it was a success for Norcal as the turnout was awesome, but not a lot of fun for most racers.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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oops
[ September 11, 2005, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: 93PONY ]
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
JohnB was robbed by a racing a car that was NOT legal for the class it was in.
bunchmyfunky had to go up after the oil down and try and race in the damn speedy dry- so no wonder he spun and went no-where. bogus. And what happened to Ford vs. Chevy??? Cars were simply run how they were lined up and quite a few imprts were racing, too. The LS1 RX7's were cool and I can see letting those guys run in an LS1 sponsered event. And why were all those race cars that raced during the day allowed to run in Bracket 1???
A few classes were questionable..... Like John91coupe fitting into stock+1 power adder & a few others. I eventually moved all single digit cars to the stroker+power adder lane....which was suppose to be one step up from stock+power adder. JohnB was simply out-gunned. The only other class to put those guys in was Outlaw....which they definately didn't fit into.
I put the electronic equiped cars in Bracket 1. That class had 2 cars in it.....I figured, 'what the hell' & let 3 electronic equiped cars from the previous race in that class. It got a few other fast cars out there & the electronic equiped cars made for some close races when they lined up with each other. I wasn't about to exclude anybody from racing! & that's why we let the imports race as well. We put them in bracket 2 as that was their best chance at winning.
As for Ford vs Chevy..... It was not well orginized. I saw only track officials calling lanes to race. No one from Norcal took the initiative to place Fords vs Chevys. It seemed this was more of a 'Norcal Event' rather then Ford Vs Chevy.
Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on
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JohnB was simply out-gunned.
Simply is right. Quite a few carb'ed cars were turned away before the event- but the Goat was allowed to run the day of. That's BS and you know it.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
JohnB was simply out-gunned.
Simply is right. Quite a few carb'ed cars were turned away before the event- but the Goat was allowed to run the day of. That's BS and you know it.
No I don't know it Jim. I had not been keeping up on all the 'drama' leading up the the event.
I offered my help 3 days before the event... Comeing to the track I thought all I'd be doing was 'helping'. I had no idea I'd be in charge of turning people away, or even placing any Chevy at all. I was under the impression I'd ONLY be placing the Fords as I had a hand in changing the rules to make it more 'Ford friendly'. Rob & his wife, Heather & I were the only ones placing the cars.....not just the Fords. We were given NO instructions on who was allowed to race & who wasn't. No instructions on what setups were 'legal' & what wasn't. The rules did not cover every last setup we ran across. Mainly LS1's, LT1's, & Fords.
After ariving at the track I soon realized nobody seemed to be in control of organizing the event staff. As time slipped by without anybody teching (close to 7pm) I realized there'd be no racing if we took the time to go over each & every setup thuroughly (as it was suppose to be). We teched over 120 cars in 45 minutes. That's on average of less then 30 seconds per car. If I'd taken even twice that amount of time (1 minute per car) We'd have been teching cars till 9pm! I did what I could to get thing rolling.... I was not about to turn away ANY cars from racing at the event.
I'm sorry if I screwed up in any way. Keeping the racers racing was my only motivation.
[ September 11, 2005, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: 93PONY ]
Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on
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93Pony, what was unfair about John91Coupe being in stock plus 1? His car definitely fit the rules. Are you saying that just because he is smart and built a fast car that he should be bumped up a class because some 18-22 year old kids couldn't afford to build a 9 second bad ass car like John91? Just trying to understand the logic here....
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
93Pony, what was unfair about John91Coupe being in stock plus 1? His car definitely fit the rules. Are you saying that just because he is smart and built a fast car that he should be bumped up a class because some 18-22 year old kids couldn't afford to build a 9 second bad ass car like John91? Just trying to understand the logic here....
Nope, I had no problem at all with John running in that class. He fit right in IMO.
I got 'bitched' at from some of the Norcal Staff & was forced to place the faster Fords in the SPA class. From there I took the initiative to place ALL sub 10 second cars in the SPA (stroker+PA) class that were in the PA class (stock+PA). I moved 3 Fords & one Chevy.
Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
93Pony, what was unfair about John91Coupe being in stock plus 1? His car definitely fit the rules. Are you saying that just because he is smart and built a fast car that he should be bumped up a class because some 18-22 year old kids couldn't afford to build a 9 second bad ass car like John91? Just trying to understand the logic here....
Nope, I had no problem at all with John running in that class. He fit right in IMO.
I got 'bitched' at from some of the Norcal Staff & was forced to place the faster Fords in the SPA class. From there I took the initiative to place ALL sub 10 second cars in the SPA (stroker+PA) class that were in the PA class (stock+PA). I moved 3 Fords & one Chevy.
That doesn't sound right. Everything I have read is that this race was intended for LS1 Camaro's and 86-current mustangs as it was an EFI race. I understand that carbed cars were put where they could fit depending on violations. My car should be in stock n/a but with all the violations, I would be in Outlaw. That was stated to me, understood, and respected. However, considering that John91Coupe fit the rules 100% (to my knowledge) then he should have been in stock plus 1 unless his violation is that he ran nines which is complete BS!!!
Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on
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Exactly. Which means the GTO should not have been in the class it was put in. Maybe one of the bracket classes, instead. And if you are the only staff member working the tech- then the hosting club is at fault for not having reps that knew the rules.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
93Pony, what was unfair about John91Coupe being in stock plus 1? His car definitely fit the rules. Are you saying that just because he is smart and built a fast car that he should be bumped up a class because some 18-22 year old kids couldn't afford to build a 9 second bad ass car like John91? Just trying to understand the logic here....
Nope, I had no problem at all with John running in that class. He fit right in IMO.
I got 'bitched' at from some of the Norcal Staff & was forced to place the faster Fords in the SPA class. From there I took the initiative to place ALL sub 10 second cars in the SPA (stroker+PA) class that were in the PA class (stock+PA). I moved 3 Fords & one Chevy.
That doesn't sound right. Everything I have read is that this race was intended for LS1 Camaro's and 86-current mustangs as it was an EFI race. I understand that carbed cars were put where they could fit depending on violations. My car should be in stock n/a but with all the violations, I would be in Outlaw. That was stated to me, understood, and respected. However, considering that John91Coupe fit the rules 100% (to my knowledge) then he should have been in stock plus 1 unless his violation is that he ran nines which is complete BS!!!
I agree.
The people who were sticklers on the rules were not around during teching...nor did they even attempt to place any cars in any classes. That was left up to the 4 of us rookies teching.....& by that late in the night I for one was not being a stickler for rules. I was simply trying to place the cars where they'd be around the most cars of similar ET. I would have placed your car in one of the N/A classes...probably the stroker N/A class because it's so fast.....My opinion of the rules was cube for cube, power adder for power adder.
But once those 2 8 &9 second mustangs ran, the chevy boys had a fit.
There were 13 second PA cars in that class (not that it matters). But, to keep the peace I moved John & the others to a faster class.....were there were other cars of similar ET/MPH running.
I did not force anybody into Outlaw.....even with 'violations'. I put the cars where they seemed to fit ET/MPH wise.
Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on
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I hear where you are coming from. But even if YOU placed me in one of the N/A classes, I would guarantee you that I would be bumped up to Outlaw. Whyt Lie already told me that on the phone Friday night.
[ September 11, 2005, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: Team SOLO ]
Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on
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Well in my opinion I have noticed that Sac Raceway has gone way downhill within the last 6 months. This has no reflection upon Shaun or Rob's teching cars yesterday though. In general though from Wednesday night rice nights to T & T Fridays to Grudge Night Saturdays not one track official ever seems to know what direction up is. That probably comes from having 50 different fucking people every week doing tech and running lanes. Lately they have been using these fuckin 14 year old dumbshit kids that know absolutely nothing about pits, teching nor lane direction.
Admission costs seem to vary according to whom is working the ticket kiosk that week. I'm just pretty goddamned fed up with paying good money of mine to sit around watching guys whom are supposed to "tech cars" or "direct cars" and end up looking like a monkey fucking a football! Shaun perhaps you can have a chat with Tony and let him know that half of his staff seem to be suffering from "head up your ass" syndrome. I've already voiced my concerns to him and he didn't seem all that interested in hearing what a customer thought.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
I hear where you are coming from. But even if YOU placed me in one of the N/A classes, I would guarantee you that I would be bumped up to Outlaw. Whyt Lie already told me that on the phone Friday night.
That ain't right.
IMO the rules were made to keep cars of similar ET/MPH running with each other. Not bump them to a 7 second class if you 'didn't build your car to fit their rules'. (as some have been told)
Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on
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Between the Fords and Chevys whats the number of wins per? More chevys or fords?
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
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Originally posted by JohnB:
Knocked out in the first round (10.8@134.6) by a carb'd car in Stroker+PA. No offense to the folks putting on the event, but it was a cluster-fuck. I don't know why they even bothered with lanes, no one stayed in them.
Did they even finish up? It was after 11 when I split...and they were still running.
finished at 12 or maybe a little after, there was some drama with that turbo yellow camaro in SPA, he was hiding out in the pits and got a bye run in the 1st race, then wanted another bye run to put him im the finals
the staff said no to that dumbass, then brian in the faster white buick ran him for fun and cleaned him out easily
Is that the yellow car that got owned by john91coupe with his best run?
I think the chevy guys cheated, it was supposed to be a regular tree and then they did a protree so john got a crappy reaction time cause he wasn't ready for it and if you notice the yellow car reaction time was good so he knew it was going to be a protree.
We calculated it out and the yellow car beat John by .002 of a second.
john91coupe 9.35@151mph
[ September 11, 2005, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
93Pony, what was unfair about John91Coupe being in stock plus 1? His car definitely fit the rules. Are you saying that just because he is smart and built a fast car that he should be bumped up a class because some 18-22 year old kids couldn't afford to build a 9 second bad ass car like John91? Just trying to understand the logic here....
Nope, I had no problem at all with John running in that class. He fit right in IMO.
I got 'bitched' at from some of the Norcal Staff & was forced to place the faster Fords in the SPA class. From there I took the initiative to place ALL sub 10 second cars in the SPA (stroker+PA) class that were in the PA class (stock+PA). I moved 3 Fords & one Chevy.
It figures the Chevy guys would start crying.
Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on
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The whole thing was a nightmare. I feel like I was robbed of my money and that the people putting on the event only wanted our money. There was no orginazation after you paid and got in. It was complete BS after the oil down and they suddenly change the running order of the lanes B1 was supposed to go instead they sent us B2 and of course the chevy that I had to race took the good lane and didn't even offer to flip a coin for the lane. I've never been to an event (and I've raced alot) where they changed the running order because someone broke and oiled the lane down. I pulled up into that lane and it looked like snow was covering it. I launched the car and it sat and spun. I'm not happy and WILL NOT ATTEND any of there events in the future. And there was no Ford vs. Chevy it was run who ever you were next too.
Posted by kwikrob (Member # 835) on
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
JohnB was simply out-gunned.
Simply is right. Quite a few carb'ed cars were turned away before the event- but the Goat was allowed to run the day of. That's BS and you know it.
I was one of those guys. I basically begged whyte lie to let me run stroker plus power adder. he said no i would have to run outlaw. i wouldn't even have won the spa class, not even top 5. total bs. it's no big deal that the goat had a carb. in fact it was a duel 4 barrel, maybe why he was running stroker class. plus, he drove from reno. that would've been messed up to send him home.
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on
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Originally posted by bunchmyfunky:
The whole thing was a nightmare. I feel like I was robbed of my money and that the people putting on the event only wanted our money. There was no orginazation after you paid and got in. It was complete BS after the oil down and they suddenly change the running order of the lanes B1 was supposed to go instead they sent us B2 and of course the chevy that I had to race took the good lane and didn't even offer to flip a coin for the lane. I've never been to an event (and I've raced alot) where they changed the running order because someone broke and oiled the lane down. I pulled up into that lane and it looked like snow was covering it. I launched the car and it sat and spun. I'm not happy and WILL NOT ATTEND any of there events in the future. And there was no Ford vs. Chevy it was run who ever you were next too.
All i gotta say is that the whole thing was fuked from start to finish........
Street car event
Organization
Staff playing favorites
Complete ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif)
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
JohnB was simply out-gunned.
Simply is right. Quite a few carb'ed cars were turned away before the event- but the Goat was allowed to run the day of. That's BS and you know it.
Would it have been different if JohnB ran against John91coupe? By the rules JohnB's car was in a faster class....yet he still would have lost horribly.
Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
JohnB was simply out-gunned.
Simply is right. Quite a few carb'ed cars were turned away before the event- but the Goat was allowed to run the day of. That's BS and you know it.
Would it have been different if JohnB ran against John91coupe? By the rules JohnB's car was in a faster class....yet he still would have lost horribly.
Yes.
Either you set up the rules for a reason or you just forget it and run like any other grudge night.
Come on, there was all this talk about no fiberglass hoods and full interriors, etc. None of that mattered last night. You were left hangin' and did what you could.
Posted by stockishlx (Member # 5804) on
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yah i saw a fully gutted maro in na class i think not even a dash board..lol o well...i paid for 2 runs
Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on
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Wasn't there some issues with this last year? Sound like it is not put together very well.
Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on
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[ November 06, 2006, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
Posted by dame94 (Member # 2932) on
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This isn't going to make ANYONE on here happy.... but when we (me and brian (whyt lie) got there we were told that they didn't even know about our event apparently there was some miscommunication and the staff had already left and gone home(after working the et event earlier)
anyway they (the track management) ensured us that those problems wont happen next year.... and to cover our butt on "our" end: we have plans on renting the track for the WHOLE ENTIRE DAY to make sure we have enough time to get everyone PLENTY of runs.
I know some of you are pissed right now, and I wish our event wasn't on the LAST ET RACE OF THE SEASON (which ran long on top of that)
as far as organization (or lack thereof) is concerned........considering they (the track) told us it was suppose to be from 6-11....THEN WE GET THERE AND THEY SAY ITS OVER!!!!AT 10
We had a choice: get everybody racing ASAP or waste valuable time trying to grouping people up.
BIG THANKS to shaun,Rob, his wife Krissy, and Heather for teching, and helping the best way they could.
Dame
Posted by Screamn03 (Member # 5774) on
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I had a horrible night with the car:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35175
I thought we had two trial runs before elimintaions which I later figured out (after making a third run) that we didn't so sorry to whoever it was that I ran twice (a 5.0 hatch) and sorry you had to beat me twice...lol.
I had nothing to do with setting up this event and found out about it kinda late so I'm not going to slam it but all these race cars trailed in were pissing me off. I thought it was a GM vs Ford street car event. And then the whole deal with that Nova skipping semi but allowed to race in the final was BS IMO, Jeff S got screwed on that deal.
-Mike-
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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Originally posted by JohnB:
Knocked out in the first round (10.8@134.6) by a carb'd car in Stroker+PA. No offense to the folks putting on the event, but it was a cluster-fuck. I don't know why they even bothered with lanes, no one stayed in them.
Did they even finish up? It was after 11 when I split...and they were still running.
No offense taken... but what problems did you see? I am trying to figure out the problems people saw and fix them for the next event.
The biggest problems that I was aware of was the prior event cutting nearly 1 1/2 hours into our event. The last race was at 11:45pm and we were supposed to be done at 10:30-11:00pm. Also, turns out the lanes are FREAKING MARKED WRONG, which is on Sacramento Raceway.
This caused people to be in the wrong lane, which burned up a LOT of time and caused a ton of headaches. How do we as organizers correct that?
The other thing was the trucks/trailers/cars up front from the prior event that took up all our room... we were going to put the Grudge/Loser lane over there, but there was no way we could. And with starting so late, there just was no time with the amount of cars we had... to run Grudge/Loser lane.
Next year we will be renting the track for the entire day and won't have the issues of time constraints and folks WILL get many more runs.
Also, the 35 minute "break" we had for the cleanup from the "oil down" from the Turbo Mustang... which BTW cost us $275 worth of VHT and Alcohal. The same EXACT thing happened to him already? Seems that car needs to be gone COMPLETELY over again and EVERY nut/bolt/fitting touched again.
So, if you have any complaints or grievences, please post them up... in fact, I'll start a new thread for that. I want next years event to run smooth and for everyone to be happy.
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
JohnB was robbed by a racing a car that was NOT legal for the class it was in.
bunchmyfunky had to go up after the oil down and try and race in the damn speedy dry- so no wonder he spun and went no-where. bogus. And what happened to Ford vs. Chevy??? Cars were simply run how they were lined up and quite a few imprts were racing, too. The LS1 RX7's were cool and I can see letting those guys run in an LS1 sponsered event. And why were all those race cars that raced during the day allowed to run in Bracket 1???
This was NOT a Ford vs Chevy Event. It was a NORCAL Shootout event... "Norcal" as in Norcal LS1 car club providing the event and Norcal as in Northern California. Our only limiations were no imports (which sorta got relaxed) and NO front wheel drive cars, so they wouldn't tear up the track.
As for the car having to race in the "speedy dry", that isn't OUR fault. The track runs it how they do, and the car that oiled down is ultimately responsible for that.
If any car wasn't legal for the class they were in, the other people in that class should have brought it to the attention of a staff member to correct... can't put blame there, sorry.
Once again, I'll start a thread were all grievences can be aired so we can learn and better the next event.
Thanks to all who supported us by coming out, racing, and hopefully having a good time.
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Yes it was a cluster fuck.
I got there around 5:45 & they were just letting people in. 30 minutes later & they were still running the cars from the previous event....& no one was teching the incoming cars.
Rob, his wife Krissy, Heather & I did our best to blow everybody through tech since it was getting so late. Sorry if I put a few of you in the wrong class.....we were more concerned with getting the racing started as we teched the last car at 7:45!
They had 8 classes & 7 lanes with no lane designated for lossers....nor any lane designated for each class....which I took care of a little late & that's why there was some confusion on who was in what lane. I tried my best to have them open up lane 1 for fun runs....but after the turbo car layed down a few quarts of oil......they decided to let the lossers sit in the Pit area..... Some of those guys got only 2 runs in. Then there was the 'cleanup' of the oil. Why Brandon didn't burn it off I don't know....but that lane was useless after 40 minutes of cleanup.
At that point it was 10:30pm.....there was no way they were going to be able to open up a fun-run lane.
IMO the event was great to watch, I had a good time doing what I could to keep things moving, but it was not well orginized (a lot of standing around talking & little action) & most of the racers had plenty to complain about. I would too if I'd been racing.
In the end....it was a success for Norcal as the turnout was awesome, but not a lot of fun for most racers.
First off, the gates were not supposed to open until 6:00pm... as the prior event was not over untill 6:00pm. The track made us open the gate early as cars were lining up all the way out to and onto Excelsior Rd, which can create fines from the County.
Second, thanks a TON to Shawn (I'm sure I spelled that wrong) his wife Heather, Rob, and Krissy for the work they did. There was so much to do, I didn't have a chance to help tech/classify cars myself. They stepped up and did an AWESOME job and made that process as fast as possible. Much appreciated from me and the rest of our Club.
Third, there must have been some miscomunication, as I was standing with you, Rob and Tony (the track guy) when we were explaining that cars with 1xx were in lane one. Cars with 6xx were in lane 6, etc. The problem came from the track NUMBERING the lanes wrong...
As for the loser lane... They were going to line up along the far right hand side, but the prior events trucks/trailers/cars were still there so we couldn't use that area. Outlaw was supposed to be there as well.
Shit, it was such a cluster fuck that we got to the track and they didn't even know we were supposed to be holding our event... How the FUCK do they not know or forget that???
Not to mention the track running the prior events classes nearly 1.5 hours into our time... That totally burned up the time we could have used for fun runs. Not to mention the lane marking fuggup which caused a lot of the standing around bit.
Tony (the track official) was in charge of running the event and the lanes... he was payed $500 for this. I don't know how WE could have done anything better.
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
JohnB was robbed by a racing a car that was NOT legal for the class it was in.
bunchmyfunky had to go up after the oil down and try and race in the damn speedy dry- so no wonder he spun and went no-where. bogus. And what happened to Ford vs. Chevy??? Cars were simply run how they were lined up and quite a few imprts were racing, too. The LS1 RX7's were cool and I can see letting those guys run in an LS1 sponsered event. And why were all those race cars that raced during the day allowed to run in Bracket 1???
A few classes were questionable..... Like John91coupe fitting into stock+1 power adder & a few others. I eventually moved all single digit cars to the stroker+power adder lane....which was suppose to be one step up from stock+power adder. JohnB was simply out-gunned. The only other class to put those guys in was Outlaw....which they definately didn't fit into.
I put the electronic equiped cars in Bracket 1. That class had 2 cars in it.....I figured, 'what the hell' & let 3 electronic equiped cars from the previous race in that class. It got a few other fast cars out there & the electronic equiped cars made for some close races when they lined up with each other. I wasn't about to exclude anybody from racing! & that's why we let the imports race as well. We put them in bracket 2 as that was their best chance at winning.
As for Ford vs Chevy..... It was not well orginized. I saw only track officials calling lanes to race. No one from Norcal took the initiative to place Fords vs Chevys. It seemed this was more of a 'Norcal Event' rather then Ford Vs Chevy.
This event was NOT proposed or advertised as a Ford vs Chevy event... it was "NORCAL SHOOTOUT 2005" which can be taken as Norcal LS1 or Northern California. No need to make it Ford against Chevy in a race such as this.
We plan on another smaller EFI ONLY venue next spring. This WILL be Ford vs Chevy and will be lining up Ford against Chevy until the final round... as long as there are enough cars to make the split work.
And the track was PAID to pull the cars, line them up, etc. We were supposed to take care of other things. I think people got the wrong impression about this event...
The electronic cars were NOT supposed to be using their electronics... I told them if I hear them using a delay box or stutter box, or throttle stop I would eliminate them. But I couldn't watch every run. I don't think I stood in one place for more then 60 seconds at one time the entire night. Next time, they will NOT be allowed to run, as they lied directly to me.
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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Ok, this is getting out of hand. We (Norcal LS1 and the staff) are getting a lot of blame we don't deserve. The track and the track officals are the reason most of these things happened.
Now, there are a number of issues that ARE our faults and I have no problem admitting that.
1) The time constraints because of the prior event running long. Remedy? Next year for the "large" event such as this one, we are going to rent the track for the entire day.
2) The track not even knowing we were supposed to be there that night. Remedy? Have a meeting with the track/officals the week of the event and make sure they are aware of what is actually on THEIR Calender.
3) The rules will be dialed in more next time. This event evolved over time from one thing to another... ever heard of too many cooks in the kitchen or too many chiefs and not enough indians? Remedy? Next time, only one or two people will make the decisions to the best of their ability.
4) Number of runs per car/driver were low. Remedy? More time next event will permit a fair number of runs for the money.
5) Grudge/Loser lane, non existant. Remedy? Next event we will have the ENTIRE track to ourselves and won't have to worry about space limitations like we did this event. Also, first round loser buy back.
6) Poorly organized. Remedy? Now we know what we can depend on the track/officals to do and next time be prepared to have more help and what needs to be done.
I can tell you this... If I personally were racing, I would be upset. But I've been to Grudge nights (NORMAL Sacto run grudge nights) where I was there ALL night from open to close and got 2 or 3 runs in. However this was NOT a grudge night, but an actual race. Ask the people who won the money/trophis if they had a good time and thought it was worth the time/money.
I will personally appologize for the mistakes, disorganization, and lack of direction for the event. I hope you do not hold it against our car club or think we were just out to make money. We do donate a good amount of money towards charities from the money we make, and the more money we have in our account the more events we can put on.
How many other events with this idea behind it are available in Northern California, let alone the West Coast?
So once again, sorry for anyone who is upset or feels wronged.
This next year we hope to put on two events. One will be a Ford vs GM event (line up Mustang vs Camaro until the finals, etc) which will be late model EFI ONLY! This event will be on a Sat night in late April or early May (hopefully.)
Then in Sept we hope to put on an event such as this past one, but rent the track for the ENTIRE day. Have more classes and take our time and make sure folks get the number of runs they should.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Just a suggestion:
Too many rules only makes things worse. Add $$$ with purses & you'll get a mess like this. People are gonna bitch when there's rules & $$$ involved.
My opinion would be to have a grudge-type event (like you suggested) with no extra rules. SImply racing Ford Vs Chevy....or Ford Vs Ford, or Chevy Vs Chevy. Basically a typical Grudge night but have the track rented. Have sponsors that setup booths for advertising....or whatever. HCI would love to setup a booth at an event like that. I realize some of the 'Big dogs' wouldn't come out due to a lack of purse, but some would still come out for some fun...
Oh....& if there's 2 events scheduled that day, it's best to be the first.
Mid Spring would also be my preference as the weather is more suited to running faster......although rain delay's can happen.
Also the Sportsman vs Pro tree's got a lot of people confused. The general concessus from what I heard was that only Outlaw should have had a Pro tree. All others .500 Full.
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on
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Anyone know what happened to Rick and his Cobra?
Tony, Marc i didn't even get to see you guys or your cars run how did you guys do (or did you even race?)
John it was nice to meet you and your coupe is really clean
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on
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I remember Norm brought out his mustang to the last free grudge. And C.Chow had hid buick so there was some heavy hitters there.
Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on
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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:
Anyone know what happened to Rick and his Cobra?
Tony, Marc i didn't even get to see you guys or your cars run how did you guys do (or did you even race?)
John it was nice to meet you and your coupe is really clean
Marc and I were looking for Rick too...I wanted to see him click off a 10 second run. I know he said he was gonna be there in the previous posts.
I saw you drive through the pit area and that was about it.
I was in bracket2 and dialed in at 11.59. I ran an 11.60 @116 but red lighted with a -.046 reaction time...
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on
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Originally posted by twstd5.4:
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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:
Anyone know what happened to Rick and his Cobra?
Tony, Marc i didn't even get to see you guys or your cars run how did you guys do (or did you even race?)
John it was nice to meet you and your coupe is really clean
Marc and I were looking for Rick too...I wanted to see him click off a 10 second run. I know he said he was gonna be there in the previous posts.
I saw you drive through the pit area and that was about it.
I was in bracket2 and dialed in at 11.59. I ran an 11.60 @116 but red lighted with a -.046 reaction time...
I didn't get much time to check things out as i blew the I/C pump fuse right when i got there and thank god there was a guy in a RED GT w/ slicks that had a spare and saved my pathetic night (if you're out there THANKS AGAIN i owe ya a nice cold one)
How did Marc do?
Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on
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Marc's car wasn't ready... Lentech screwed him over and his parts haven't arrived yet.
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on
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Originally posted by twstd5.4:
Marc's car wasn't ready... Lentech screwed him over and his parts haven't arrived yet.
Yeah they have Me cornered I was just going to cancel my order and order a pa valvebody from summit but those are on back order also. All I can do is wait!
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on
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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
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Originally posted by twstd5.4:
Marc's car wasn't ready... Lentech screwed him over and his parts haven't arrived yet.
Yeah they have Me cornered I was just going to cancel my order and order a pa valvebody from summit but those are on back order also. All I can do is wait!
That sux!
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on
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[ September 12, 2005, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: jayl ]
Posted by Bounty Hunter (Member # 1422) on
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I would just like to apoligize publicly to all racers and fans who were inconvienced due to my oil down! I know how pissed you guys who were out there must have been, and I can't tell you how pissed and embaresed I was! I have had some really bad luck with the car this year and was really hoping to put on a show that night with some fast passes. But again sorry for the hassle we caused.
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on
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Originally posted by Bounty Hunter:
I would just like to apoligize publicly to all racers and fans who were inconvienced due to my oil down! I know how pissed you guys who were out there must have been, and I can't tell you how pissed and embaresed I was! I have had some really bad luck with the car this year and was really hoping to put on a show that night with some fast passes. But again sorry for the hassle we caused.
Much respect for the apology but to me that's part of racing and to be expected ....and that was just a drop in the bucket of things that went wrong with the event.
Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on
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You have nothing to be sorry about. Shit breaks, we've all been there. I think most of us are upset with the overall event and how things went.
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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Originally posted by Bounty Hunter:
I would just like to apoligize publicly to all racers and fans who were inconvienced due to my oil down! I know how pissed you guys who were out there must have been, and I can't tell you how pissed and embaresed I was! I have had some really bad luck with the car this year and was really hoping to put on a show that night with some fast passes. But again sorry for the hassle we caused.
If my posts came across wrong then I am sorry. I was told that your line failed from INSTALLATION. Not that you split the line. I am not talking down to this driver or car at all.
But from what I heard (from people who know the car/driver) the same thing happened twice and they were saying it was caused from poor installation.
Now, if the line actually split (never seen a good quality steel braided line "split") then there must be something else going on.
Either way, $4,000 in turbo's in under two weeks has got to be hard to swallow.
Wish we could have seen your car make a good pass.
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by Bounty Hunter:
I would just like to apoligize publicly to all racers and fans who were inconvienced due to my oil down! I know how pissed you guys who were out there must have been, and I can't tell you how pissed and embaresed I was! I have had some really bad luck with the car this year and was really hoping to put on a show that night with some fast passes. But again sorry for the hassle we caused.
Don't trip, it was a badass burnout and that car looks sik as hell. I just hope you get the problem fixed soon so you can run it!
Posted by twstd5.4 (Member # 1981) on
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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
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Originally posted by Bounty Hunter:
I would just like to apoligize publicly to all racers and fans who were inconvienced due to my oil down! I know how pissed you guys who were out there must have been, and I can't tell you how pissed and embaresed I was! I have had some really bad luck with the car this year and was really hoping to put on a show that night with some fast passes. But again sorry for the hassle we caused.
Don't trip, it was a badass burnout and that car looks sik as hell. I just hope you get the problem fixed soon so you can run it!
Hey it's racing...stuff happens.
I'd seen you run once before and can't wait to see you run again...
Posted by 02EBZ06 (Member # 436) on
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Just want to say I had a blast out there, but only got two good passes in. I think test n tune is more fun to run. Even with all the lane jumping, etc, I still think they moved things fairly quick. I got 4 passes in after arriving at 8pm.
93PONY, I asked where tech was at the gate on arrival and they told me way in the back!!!!!!!
I think you and your wife did a great job teching people in. I was totally late for the event and was never so happy to see people in the tech lane when I drove up. I was teched in within 3-5mins.
Thanks.
BOUNTY HUNTER, very cool ride, also I heard what sounded like a slightly off balance turbine when you did your burn out. Could be wrong, just thought you would be interested. Whatever on the oil drop. I had very little problems with traction in that lane later. Actually gave my engine time to cool down.
I think its time for another --->>>EFI<<<<----
event, for late model stuff. No race cars, just street machines...
Posted by Rob [5LVENOM] (Member # 2282) on
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Good fun overall.
Posted by 66 InjectedCobra (Member # 819) on
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John why tr rolled eyes at the car you raced? don't you run stroker plus power adder too? Just wondering.
By the way it was nice to talk to you bud!!
You have a PM too!
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on
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I do run a stroker plus power adder. The only issue I had was the stink that was raised with Kwikrob wanting to run (carb'd) and then this. Shit happens.
Thanks for the info on the bracket~
Posted by shiftylx (Member # 2670) on
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heres a nice vid of the racing:
dial-up beware...75mb
[ September 15, 2005, 12:02 AM: Message edited by: shiftylx ]
Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on
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john91coupe's 1st run for the night
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=1D23E22A-43C9-4597-A4C2-FE136BF77C61
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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Originally posted by 02EBZ06:
Just want to say I had a blast out there, but only got two good passes in. I think test n tune is more fun to run. Even with all the lane jumping, etc, I still think they moved things fairly quick. I got 4 passes in after arriving at 8pm.
93PONY, I asked where tech was at the gate on arrival and they told me way in the back!!!!!!!
I think you and your wife did a great job teching people in. I was totally late for the event and was never so happy to see people in the tech lane when I drove up. I was teched in within 3-5mins.
Thanks.
BOUNTY HUNTER, very cool ride, also I heard what sounded like a slightly off balance turbine when you did your burn out. Could be wrong, just thought you would be interested. Whatever on the oil drop. I had very little problems with traction in that lane later. Actually gave my engine time to cool down.
I think its time for another --->>>EFI<<<<----
event, for late model stuff. No race cars, just street machines...
Next year we hope to put to use all we learned at this event. As for the number of runs, EVERYONE should have gotten at least 3 runs. 2 Time Trials and at LEAST one elimination run. It was out of our hands for the loser/grudge lane because of the time constraight from starting lane from the prior event and the lack of room from the trucks/trailers/cars from the prior event up front. If folks didn't get 3 runs, then they either showed up late, or were not where they were supposed to be.
We also lost a LOT of time due to folks not staying with their cars in the staging lanes and holding up traffic.
Think about it though, if you show up to a RACE, you don't get many runs if you don't win.
I personally saw or talked to nearly all the winners and runner ups. Some had some negative feedback, but they ALL had smiles on their faces.
We hope to put on two events next year. One smaller GM vs Ford, late model EFI ONLY (more intimiate, smaller, etc) simialar, night race.
The other will be large like this one, but we will rent the track for the ENTIRE day.
Again, sorry to those of you that didn't have any fun... But I hope those that did have fun, speak up.
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
QUOTE]Next year we hope to put to use all we learned at this event. As for the number of runs, EVERYONE should have gotten at least 3 runs. 2 Time Trials and at LEAST one elimination run. It was out of our hands for the loser/grudge lane because of the time constraight from starting lane from the prior event and the lack of room from the trucks/trailers/cars from the prior event up front. If folks didn't get 3 runs, then they either showed up late, or were not where they were supposed to be.
We also lost a LOT of time due to folks not staying with their cars in the staging lanes and holding up traffic.
Think about it though, if you show up to a RACE, you don't get many runs if you don't win.
I personally saw or talked to nearly all the winners and runner ups. Some had some negative feedback, but they ALL had smiles on their faces.
We hope to put on two events next year. One smaller GM vs Ford, late model EFI ONLY (more intimiate, smaller, etc) simialar, night race.
The other will be large like this one, but we will rent the track for the ENTIRE day.
Again, sorry to those of you that didn't have any fun... But I hope those that did have fun, speak up.
Another suggestion as i know i wasn't the only confused but......maybe announce to the racers to return to the staging lanes once finished with the prior run.
After my first time trial i went back to the pits expecting another call for cars in my grouping but never heard another comment made only to "have drivers be ready at your car" but no explanation of what group
I think that could have helped out also with some of the confusion at least on my part ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Also it would maybe be a good idea to set someone at the end of the staging lanes be assure people are in the right lanes and also to just be there to answer ?'s and such.
Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on
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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:
Another suggestion as i know i wasn't the only confused but......maybe announce to the racers to return to the staging lanes once finished with the prior run.
Bad idea...time is needed between runs. This time could be to ice down a turbo, put a new bottle in the car, time the car, gas up the car, etc.
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on
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Originally posted by Team SOLO:
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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:
Another suggestion as i know i wasn't the only confused but......maybe announce to the racers to return to the staging lanes once finished with the prior run.
Bad idea...time is needed between runs. This time could be to ice down a turbo, put a new bottle in the car, time the car, gas up the car, etc.
Exactly my point!
I did the exact thing you speak of.....after the first run as usual i pit and ice down my blower and let the I/C pump cycle the fluid as well.
But much to my surprise i hear everyone in the staging lanes saying to return right after.
And that's why i only got 1 time trial run
I should have stated either tell people to return back to the staging lanes or ANNOUNCE WHEN EACH GROUP SHOULD BE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE STAGING LANES!
All i kept hearing over the p.a. system was "if the boyfriend wins he's sleeping on the couch yada...yada...yada "
Not to mention a call for eliminations in "30 minutes" which i never knew really even started.
Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on
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This is one area where we did screw up. The organization of the lanes and classes.
A few things contributed to this, but I was not prepared for it as well.
First, the track wanted to call different lanes at different times (for some reason they skipped B1 in eliminations.)
As for calling cars to the lanes... I had invisioned having everyone pit in the back and calling up the classes when we were ready to run them. The track said with how little time we had that wouldn't work. And with how little space was available from the prior event it made it difficult to do.
And after we found out there was an issue with the lanes being marked wrong and people in the wrong lanes I did send someone down to the end of the staging lanes to direct traffic. I think that person decided not to do that...
Chalk up one more learning experience for next year...
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
This is one area where we did screw up. The organization of the lanes and classes.
A few things contributed to this, but I was not prepared for it as well.
First, the track wanted to call different lanes at different times (for some reason they skipped B1 in eliminations.)
As for calling cars to the lanes... I had invisioned having everyone pit in the back and calling up the classes when we were ready to run them. The track said with how little time we had that wouldn't work. And with how little space was available from the prior event it made it difficult to do.
And after we found out there was an issue with the lanes being marked wrong and people in the wrong lanes I did send someone down to the end of the staging lanes to direct traffic. I think that person decided not to do that...
Chalk up one more learning experience for next year...
when the track "forgot" to call bracket 1 to the staging lanes, is right after jason mack's outlaw mustang oiled the right lane down
i dont think it was an accident that they sent bracket 2 out first, they just figured they would send the slow cars down first, who cares for fairness
Posted by bunchmyfunky (Member # 360) on
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
This is one area where we did screw up. The organization of the lanes and classes.
A few things contributed to this, but I was not prepared for it as well.
First, the track wanted to call different lanes at different times (for some reason they skipped B1 in eliminations.)
As for calling cars to the lanes... I had invisioned having everyone pit in the back and calling up the classes when we were ready to run them. The track said with how little time we had that wouldn't work. And with how little space was available from the prior event it made it difficult to do.
And after we found out there was an issue with the lanes being marked wrong and people in the wrong lanes I did send someone down to the end of the staging lanes to direct traffic. I think that person decided not to do that...
Chalk up one more learning experience for next year...
when the track "forgot" to call bracket 1 to the staging lanes, is right after jason mack's outlaw mustang oiled the right lane down
i dont think it was an accident that they sent bracket 2 out first, they just figured they would send the slow cars down first, who cares for fairness
This is exactly what pissed me off and the reason why I got screwed. When I went and complained about this I was told that they didn't want to send the fast cars down because the lane just got oiled down. Which is complete BS. I paid the same as everyone else and have the exact same potential of losing traction and hitting the wall as any car. Which I did loose all traction when I launched the car at 5k+ I had to get out of it right away.
Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on
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Originally posted by bunchmyfunky:
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
This is one area where we did screw up. The organization of the lanes and classes.
A few things contributed to this, but I was not prepared for it as well.
First, the track wanted to call different lanes at different times (for some reason they skipped B1 in eliminations.)
As for calling cars to the lanes... I had invisioned having everyone pit in the back and calling up the classes when we were ready to run them. The track said with how little time we had that wouldn't work. And with how little space was available from the prior event it made it difficult to do.
And after we found out there was an issue with the lanes being marked wrong and people in the wrong lanes I did send someone down to the end of the staging lanes to direct traffic. I think that person decided not to do that...
Chalk up one more learning experience for next year...
when the track "forgot" to call bracket 1 to the staging lanes, is right after jason mack's outlaw mustang oiled the right lane down
i dont think it was an accident that they sent bracket 2 out first, they just figured they would send the slow cars down first, who cares for fairness
This is exactly what pissed me off and the reason why I got screwed. When I went and complained about this I was told that they didn't want to send the fast cars down because the lane just got oiled down. Which is complete BS. I paid the same as everyone else and have the exact same potential of losing traction and hitting the wall as any car. Which I did loose all traction when I launched the car at 5k+ I had to get out of it right away.
One other quick thing that was screwed was that they said that the bracket 2 guys would have the 5/10th lights and in the first round it was wasn't...
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on
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what did your vert end up runnin again ?
Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on
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Originally posted by jayl:
what did your vert end up runnin again ?
The best time of the night was 11.60 at 116.
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on
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very nice!
Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on
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Originally posted by jayl:
very nice!
Thank you...
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