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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Have y’all read the new exhaust law that went into effect Jan 19? If your exhaust is over 95db it’s now a 1000$ fine and a trip to BAR. No more fix it ticket. Goes for motorcycles as well.

Only people that got off are old schools and vehicles over 6k in weight.

That’s some bs if I’ve ever seen it.

[ 2019-01-09, 04:39 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 
Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :
 
It’s going to get worse ever year with car modz.
 
Posted by 93ex chp (Member # 9016) on :
 
Old schools are getting hit too. Read the whole bill. It states that it does not exempt older cars from the law.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93ex chp:
Old schools are getting hit too. Read the whole bill. It states that it does not exempt older cars from the law.
Not from what I read
 
Posted by 351w (Member # 11875) on :
 
I’m moving to Canada, seriously though this sucks and makes me hope police use restraint when they hear a car with exhaust.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Anyone got a link to the law? Do all cops have to carry sound level meters?
 
Posted by primeredbeast89dropgt (Member # 10102) on :
 
A lot guys are petitioning it, I'm not sure if it Will do anything for us but its worth a try.

Here's the link :

https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fines-for-loud-mufflers-ab-1824-section-4-in-california?recruiter=836352091&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petiti on&utm_term=triggered
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
"California Assembly Bill (A.B.) 1824, which was signed into law by then-Governor Jerry Brown in June of 2018 went into effect on January 1, 2019. The bill has generated significant concern amongst the online enthusiast community. Despite what is being circulated, enactment of A.B. 1824 does not change existing laws pertaining to exhaust noise or sale and installation of aftermarket exhaust systems.

Under existing law, exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, may not exceed a sound level of 95-decibels when tested under Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) test procedure J1169 (May 1998). This was not changed by A.B. 1824.

A.B. 1824 amended how excess exhaust noise violations are handled by law enforcement. Beginning this year, a vehicle cited for violating the current exhaust noise law will no longer receive what is known as a “fix-it” ticket. Instead, violations will result in an immediate fine.

Consumers in receipt of a violation still have the option of seeking a certificate of compliance from the California Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) demonstrating that their exhaust emits no more than 95-decibels. This SEMA-sponsored program allows courts to dismiss citations for exhaust systems that have been tested and for which a certificate of compliance has been issued."
 
Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
I saw a post on instagram (bayareacarmeets). A 55 year old guy in a 65' mustang got busted on the freeway by CHP for this exhaust law crap.

Be safe out there!
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
I can understand citing people at a meet or something that are out of control but if you’re just cruising???? Come on now.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
I hope they have some tool they can use to PROVE it. Cops tend to say what they want and don't have to prove themselves.
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
95db is super low. I mean clapping hands is higher. i say just keep the mufflers on and pay the fine. it will all be ok until we turn this state red. lol
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:

Consumers in receipt of a violation still have the option of seeking a certificate of compliance from the California Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) demonstrating that their exhaust emits no more than 95-decibels. This SEMA-sponsored program allows courts to dismiss citations for exhaust systems that have been tested and for which a certificate of compliance has been issued."
Does this mean people put quiet exhaust back on their car and get a certificate of compliance from BAR? When a California cop pulls you over, you show them the certificate so the cop will have to think up of a new crime to fine you for?
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:

Consumers in receipt of a violation still have the option of seeking a certificate of compliance from the California Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) demonstrating that their exhaust emits no more than 95-decibels. This SEMA-sponsored program allows courts to dismiss citations for exhaust systems that have been tested and for which a certificate of compliance has been issued."
Does this mean people put quiet exhaust back on their car and get a certificate of compliance from BAR? When a California cop pulls you over, you show them the certificate so the cop will have to think up of a new crime to fine you for?
i would try it. i dont know how they would even know the difference.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:

Consumers in receipt of a violation still have the option of seeking a certificate of compliance from the California Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) demonstrating that their exhaust emits no more than 95-decibels. This SEMA-sponsored program allows courts to dismiss citations for exhaust systems that have been tested and for which a certificate of compliance has been issued."
Does this mean people put quiet exhaust back on their car and get a certificate of compliance from BAR? When a California cop pulls you over, you show them the certificate so the cop will have to think up of a new crime to fine you for?
From what I’ve read the cop just needs to think your car is loud. From there you have to take it to bar and prove it’s under the 95 dB level. I’ve read a post that a guy in a stock m4 got a ticket and his stock exhaust is over 95 DB. He took it to court with proof from bar that it was stock but still had to pay a 1k fine.
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
So that db measurement is at idle?
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
So that db measurement is at idle?
Under load 2500 rpm I believe.
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
I wonder what all the hp exhaust brands think of this ridiculous bill, besides the obvious

[ 2019-01-10, 11:21 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
From what I’ve read the cop just needs to think your car is loud. From there you have to take it to bar and prove it’s under the 95 dB level. I’ve read a post that a guy in a stock m4 got a ticket and his stock exhaust is over 95 DB. He took it to court with proof from bar that it was stock but still had to pay a 1k fine.
This means the unjust law is a tool for cops to extract a $1000 tax on those they don't like. I wonder if Tesla and other electric car companies that build automobiles exclusively for the wealthy had anything to do with this bill. This law will be used exclusively to tax the poor unjustly.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
From what I’ve read the cop just needs to think your car is loud. From there you have to take it to bar and prove it’s under the 95 dB level. I’ve read a post that a guy in a stock m4 got a ticket and his stock exhaust is over 95 DB. He took it to court with proof from bar that it was stock but still had to pay a 1k fine.
This means the unjust law is a tool for cops to extract a $1000 tax on those they don't like. I wonder if Tesla and other electric car companies that build automobiles exclusively for the wealthy had anything to do with this bill. This law will be used exclusively to tax the poor unjustly.
Eh, Tesla’s aren’t built exclusively for the wealthy. The model 3 or whatever it is is only 45k, which is only 10k more thanw a new fully loaded Honda Accord. Also, basically any supercar wouldn’t pass the 95 dB meter at all so I doubt Ferrari/mclaren/Lamborghini etc lobbied for this as all car companies need to offer electric cars at some point.

I’m pretty sure this is to give cops control and try to get rid of the take overs side shows people are posting on YouTube. Still it’s a shitty law in my opinion.

[ 2019-01-11, 05:13 AM: Message edited by: adower ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
adower ------ you are right about Tesla and super cars. A GT500 or Corvette should also not pass a 95db test. I don't agree side shows have anything to do with it. It's a law to extract a $1000 tax on those who can't afford it. It would be very unusual for a cop to use this law against a super car owner. Super car owners can afford lawyers and defend themselves against injustice. However, a poor person in an older truck or Mustang doesn't have the means. Police know this very well. Like all bullies, they don't pick on those that can't defend themselves.
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ------ you are right about Tesla and super cars. A GT500 or Corvette should also not pass a 95db test. I don't agree side shows have anything to do with it. It's a law to extract a $1000 tax on those who can't afford it. It would be very unusual for a cop to use this law against a super car owner. Super car owners can afford lawyers and defend themselves against injustice. However, a poor person in an older truck or Mustang doesn't have the means. Police know this very well. Like all bullies, they don't pick on those that can't defend themselves.
if its for the ones who cant afford to pay it, why even waste time creating it? if they cant pay it, that just creates more problems imo theres probably more to this bill than just attacking those that cant afford it.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ------ you are right about Tesla and super cars. A GT500 or Corvette should also not pass a 95db test. I don't agree side shows have anything to do with it. It's a law to extract a $1000 tax on those who can't afford it. It would be very unusual for a cop to use this law against a super car owner. Super car owners can afford lawyers and defend themselves against injustice. However, a poor person in an older truck or Mustang doesn't have the means. Police know this very well. Like all bullies, they don't pick on those that can't defend themselves.
if its for the ones who cant afford to pay it, why even waste time creating it? if they cant pay it, that just creates more problems imo theres probably more to this bill than just attacking those that cant afford it.
There is a video now where a cop plain as day says it’s due to the take overs and side shows that this law was created.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
if its for the ones who cant afford to pay it, why even waste time creating it? if they cant pay it, that just creates more problems imo theres probably more to this bill than just attacking those that cant afford it.
The government always wins in this area. They'll garnish wages. They'll charge late fees. They'll charge interest.
I thought about it like you and agree there is more to this bill than attacking the poor. It also attacks older cars. The government hates old cars on the road. Cash for clunkers, requiring smog for cars thirty to forty years old, sound level fines are all designed to levy a tax on the less well off to force them out of their older automobile.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Get a mild to wild switch
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Get a mild to wild switch
It’s still illegal. The law says you cannot have a bypass. When you go to BAR they will catch it.
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
My question is about BAR/REF and if that has a fine that can be paid to avoid going at all??..Or is your vin tagged or thrown on a incompliance list from DMV for registration renewal until you pass BAR or something else along those lines??..I would pay the $1000 for the modified exhaust,it is what it is,I live where I live and not moving out of the state because these sorry asses don’t like how my car sounds,not gonna let the state dictate my mods to my cars and how I go about my passion for horsepower,but if the car gets tagged and cannot be legally driven on the street because it won’t pass BAR that’s an issue.Would be fucked for a guy who say has a twin screw cobra with a full fuel system and full exhaust to bring his car to legal compliance and cannot do the wrench time himself, in order to keep the car on the road,I’m sure he would just pay out his ass in fines to avoid that I know I would,sounds stupid but my headers are staying on my car fuck you California [patriot]

[ 2019-01-13, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
My question is about BAR/REF and if that has a fine that can be paid to avoid going at all??..Or is your vin tagged or thrown on a incompliance list from DMV for registration renewal until you pass BAR or something else along those lines??..I would pay the $1000 for the modified exhaust,it is what it is,I live where I live and not moving out of the state because these sorry asses don’t like how my car sounds,not gonna let the state dictate my mods to my cars and how I go about my passion for horsepower,but if the car gets tagged and cannot be legally driven on the street because it won’t pass BAR that’s an issue.Would be fucked for a guy who say has a twin screw cobra with a full fuel system and full exhaust to bring his car to legal compliance and cannot do the wrench time himself, in order to keep the car on the road,I’m sure he would just pay out his ass in fines to avoid that I know I would,sounds stupid but my headers are staying on my car fuck you California [patriot]
If you get the ticket you must go to BAR. No if ands or buts.
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
https://www.semasan.com/legislative-alerts/california/fact-vs-fiction-californias-new-exhaust-noise-law
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
My question is about BAR/REF and if that has a fine that can be paid to avoid going at all??..Or is your vin tagged or thrown on a incompliance list from DMV for registration renewal until you pass BAR or something else along those lines??..I would pay the $1000 for the modified exhaust,it is what it is,I live where I live and not moving out of the state because these sorry asses don’t like how my car sounds,not gonna let the state dictate my mods to my cars and how I go about my passion for horsepower,but if the car gets tagged and cannot be legally driven on the street because it won’t pass BAR that’s an issue.Would be fucked for a guy who say has a twin screw cobra with a full fuel system and full exhaust to bring his car to legal compliance and cannot do the wrench time himself, in order to keep the car on the road,I’m sure he would just pay out his ass in fines to avoid that I know I would,sounds stupid but my headers are staying on my car fuck you California [patriot]
If you get the ticket you must go to BAR. No if ands or buts.
Ok...I get that,but what I’m saying is if you refuse to make your car idle at 95db can you get slapped with a fine for not passing BAR and move on with life or does not complying risk keeping your car on the road? I ask this because in 2007 I got a BAR ticket in my notchback for a cold air intake and headers,I returned the car to stock exhaust and air box etc but it wouldn’t pass the BARs sniffer 2 separate times so I said the hell with it and just paid $800-ish through the court and moved on.I know plenty of cars in this state that will not comply,they almost simply can’t without costing an arm and a leg,gotta be an option to pay a fine for not getting the car to the states regulation,they can’t keep the car off the road can they?

[ 2019-01-13, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 


[ 2019-01-13, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
SIC9250 ----- how did the cops get you for a cold air and headers? Shouldn't CARB stickers be enough for the cops?
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
SIC9250 ----- how did the cops get you for a cold air and headers? Shouldn't CARB stickers be enough for the cops?
At the time I had bolt ons,my bbk intake did not have a sticker on it,i bought it used and it was not present,same with my bassani shorty headers no carb, so the cop sent me to ref(pulled me over for exhaust rolling down sunrise blvd 3pm on a weekday) when I went the first time I threw cats on the car and manifolds with a stock air box (bbk and bassani would not send carb stickers as I was not the original purchaser is was very irritating) and it wouldn’t pass the sniffer which was all apart of getting the car corrected for court (and NO it wasn’t just a easy as putting different mufflers on the car and cats for a DB reading they wanted a full inspection,DB compliance AND emissions test) I went home played with a few things and ofcourse typical fox it didn’t pass the 2nd time so I said fuck it and paid the full fine it was about $1200 total,the exhaust fee was only $400 ish the fine for not passing REF was $800 ish..Just hope In case this happens and ref comes along again that things haven’t changed and I can just pay up and not put a wrench on my car.

[ 2019-01-13, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Shit, there should just be an option that you pay more at registration if you don’t want to abide by smog laws. I know I’d pay a premium to not worry about emissions.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
SIC9250 ----- how did the cops get you for a cold air and headers? Shouldn't CARB stickers be enough for the cops?
At the time I had bolt ons,my bbk intake did not have a sticker on it,i bought it used and it was not present,same with my bassani shorty headers no carb, so the cop sent me to ref(pulled me over for exhaust rolling down sunrise blvd 3pm on a weekday) when I went the first time I threw cats on the car and manifolds with a stock air box (bbk and bassani would not send carb stickers as I was not the original purchaser is was very irritating) and it wouldn’t pass the sniffer which was all apart of getting the car corrected for court (and NO it wasn’t just a easy as putting different mufflers on the car and cats for a DB reading they wanted a full inspection,DB compliance AND emissions test) I went home played with a few things and ofcourse typical fox it didn’t pass the 2nd time so I said fuck it and paid the full fine it was about $1200 total,the exhaust fee was only $400 ish the fine for not passing REF was $800 ish..Just hope In case this happens and ref comes along again that things haven’t changed and I can just pay up and not put a wrench on my car.
Sad to hear so many stories like yours. I've heard of people printing stickers themselves from pictures taken of the originals. Setting your timing to 13 degrees base and using a SPOUT connector with one metal contact removed to prevent the computer from advancing timing would have allowed your car to pass the smog test with no trouble. A lot of Ford cars from the 1980s used spout connectors. Find one in the junk yard and gut its pin to have your own special guaranteed to pass smog spout. Loan the spout to your friends when you're done.
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
Lol yes that’s an old school trick and I had that done at the time and it still wouldn’t pass,prob needed better cats,just another reason why I was done with foxbodys and moved on to 32v powered cars..
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:

Consumers in receipt of a violation still have the option of seeking a certificate of compliance from the California Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) demonstrating that their exhaust emits no more than 95-decibels. This SEMA-sponsored program allows courts to dismiss citations for exhaust systems that have been tested and for which a certificate of compliance has been issued."
Does this mean people put quiet exhaust back on their car and get a certificate of compliance from BAR? When a California cop pulls you over, you show them the certificate so the cop will have to think up of a new crime to fine you for?
From what I’ve read the cop just needs to think your car is loud. From there you have to take it to bar and prove it’s under the 95 dB level. I’ve read a post that a guy in a stock m4 got a ticket and his stock exhaust is over 95 DB. He took it to court with proof from bar that it was stock but still had to pay a 1k fine.
I was wondering if stock cars could get busted, my stock GT350 is rated 92 DB, but seems louder than 92 DB, but it always has a switch for the exhaust from the factory so isn’t that illegal for California also?
 
Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
I was wondering if stock cars could get busted, my stock GT350 is rated 92 DB, but seems louder than 92 DB, but it always has a switch for the exhaust from the factory so isn’t that illegal for California also?
I'm curious about the new GT500's, they sound much louder from the videos posted
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
Customer of mine I built a 04 cobra for with a VMP 2.3/JBA headers/JLT intake/No cats/bassani catback,just got a state ref ticket for modified exhaust/intake/supercharger,he walked into court today,told them he was not getting the ticket written off by state referee and would like to just pay the fine,the clerk told him his fine would be reduced and he declined again,she sent him into the courtroom and he showed the judge a couple carb numbers for his headers and jlt intake and told the judge he declined getting the car referred,he walk out paying $680 and his car will stay modded..My question was answered, it is not in concrete and a must do to go to referee with your car,pay to play and stay loud fellas,welcome to Cali [patriot]
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
Customer of mine I built a 04 cobra for with a VMP 2.3/JBA headers/JLT intake/No cats/bassani catback,just got a state ref ticket for modified exhaust/intake/supercharger,he walked into court today,told them he was not getting the ticket written off by state referee and would like to just pay the fine,the clerk told him his fine would be reduced and he declined again,she sent him into the courtroom and he showed the judge a couple carb numbers for his headers and jlt intake and told the judge he declined getting the car referred,he walk out paying $680 and his car will stay modded..My question was answered, it is not in concrete and a must do to go to referee with your car,pay to play and stay loud fellas,welcome to Cali [patriot]
Shit I’m down with that! I’d rather pay than fix it.
 
Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
SIC9250 ----- how did the cops get you for a cold air and headers? Shouldn't CARB stickers be enough for the cops?
At the time I had bolt ons,my bbk intake did not have a sticker on it,i bought it used and it was not present,same with my bassani shorty headers no carb, so the cop sent me to ref(pulled me over for exhaust rolling down sunrise blvd 3pm on a weekday) when I went the first time I threw cats on the car and manifolds with a stock air box (bbk and bassani would not send carb stickers as I was not the original purchaser is was very irritating) and it wouldn’t pass the sniffer which was all apart of getting the car corrected for court (and NO it wasn’t just a easy as putting different mufflers on the car and cats for a DB reading they wanted a full inspection,DB compliance AND emissions test) I went home played with a few things and ofcourse typical fox it didn’t pass the 2nd time so I said fuck it and paid the full fine it was about $1200 total,the exhaust fee was only $400 ish the fine for not passing REF was $800 ish..Just hope In case this happens and ref comes along again that things haven’t changed and I can just pay up and not put a wrench on my car.
Sad to hear so many stories like yours. I've heard of people printing stickers themselves from pictures taken of the originals. Setting your timing to 13 degrees base and using a SPOUT connector with one metal contact removed to prevent the computer from advancing timing would have allowed your car to pass the smog test with no trouble. A lot of Ford cars from the 1980s used spout connectors. Find one in the junk yard and gut its pin to have your own special guaranteed to pass smog spout. Loan the spout to your friends when you're done.
The spout only completes the circuit. Taking it out is the same thing as trying to "modify" it to only have one prong.. lmfao.

Who the fuck told you that gay shit?

And nope.. you're wrong. You set your shit to 13* they will fail you. That isn't factory.. I literally just went through all this.

At least, if you go to a shop that's supposed to follow the law.. anyways.

[ 2019-03-08, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: Blown93Snake ]
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
I wonder if your liable to get towed say after 2-3 times being pulled over and then would y’all really be paying every time you take your car out $6-800 that just doesn’t make sense.
 
Posted by Boss 327 (Member # 9143) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 97cobra209:
I wonder if your liable to get towed say after 2-3 times being pulled over and then would y’all really be paying every time you take your car out $6-800 that just doesn’t make sense.
Cali: c.r.e.a.m.

[ 2019-03-11, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: Boss 327 ]
 
Posted by Javier (Member # 547) on :
 
I just ordered my Flowmaster outlaw exhaust and scavenger X pipe, so let's see how that goes.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blown93Snake:
The spout only completes the circuit. Taking it out is the same thing as trying to "modify" it to only have one prong.. lmfao.

Who the fuck told you that gay shit?

And nope.. you're wrong. You set your shit to 13* they will fail you. That isn't factory.. I literally just went through all this.

At least, if you go to a shop that's supposed to follow the law.. anyways.
The tech takes out the spout for the timing test. If you don't have a spout at all, you fail the test. You take out a pin to cripple it and make it a fake connector that allows the tech to think the spout system is working.

Plus and minus 3 degrees from the stock 10 degrees base timing is what the book says is allowed for 1986 to 1995 GTs. With fake spout connector lock the timing at 13 degrees to significantly lower your nitrogen-monoxide and hydrocarbon emissions. Almost any car that gives no computer error codes will pass smog using this technique.
 
Posted by BUKSING (Member # 6594) on :
 
Getting closer:

https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fines-for-loud-mufflers-ab-1824-section-4-in-california/u/24344644?cs_tk=As4k6OlD_chFN9dlnlwAAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvMU-hX7E03fqoyoLOJNqWa4%3D&utm_campaig n=13b81065852f45eb839f2639a43310ba&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs
 
Posted by 70stang351w (Member # 9948) on :
 
Back to a fix it ticket
 
Posted by Mr.10psi (Member # 11062) on :
 
are you sure its just a fix it ticket now?
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fines-for-loud-mufflers-ab-1824-section-4-in-california/u/25156459?cs_tk=AsfF5W8nAEdTN0TUm10AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvKc_dqgy2BA11OsSyvaKH8U%3D&utm_campaig n=9bee566880364c099afe614d190bdf14&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs
 
Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
https://www.aftermarketnews.com/california-bill-to-amend-2018-exhaust-noise-law-signed-by-governor/


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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 
I had gotten a modified exhaust ticket just around the corner from my house back in June...it was a $200 fine. Paying that was much less hassle then if I wanted to fix it and get it signed off.
 




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