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Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 
Asking for a friend
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Is there a big difference between democrats and republicans? Can you vote for no war? Can you vote for lower taxes? Can you vote for smaller government? What were the policy differences between Bush the recovering alcoholic Texas cowboy and Obama the African born radical? If the democrats didn't deliver on hope and change, don't hold your breath waiting for republicans to make America great again.
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blown93Snake:
Asking for a friend
Elaborate on your friend’s inquiry. Enlighten us!
 
Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
i still can't believe the people of this stupid state voted NO on prop 6.. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 68dustin:
i still can't believe the people of this stupid state voted NO on prop 6.. [Roll Eyes]
I knew it would pass. I honestly don't think these elections are real I think they rig them up on certain things to get shit to pass. You really think people wanna pay more for gas? Nope. I say that was already won before anyone voted. There's no real way for the people to see the votes so you just have to "trust" they're being honest.
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by 68dustin:
i still can't believe the people of this stupid state voted NO on prop 6.. [Roll Eyes]
I knew it would pass. I honestly don't think these elections are real I think they rig them up on certain things to get shit to pass. You really think people wanna pay more for gas? Nope. I say that was already won before anyone voted. There's no real way for the people to see the votes so you just have to "trust" they're being honest.
Did you see how they described Prop 6 on the ballots, though? They used fear (“takes away $5 billion from infrastructure upgrades to our unsafe roads....first responders are against Prop 6!!”) to convince most people to vote against it, rather than calling it the gas tax repeal prop like it truly is.

They should instead focus on where the tax funds are being used. I bet ya a very shiny silver dollar that the funds have been misappropriated for a long time. Those of you in construction know how “carefully” timelines are managed for government contracts, or overtime is billed, etc. People and entities get comfortable with a certain level of money raining down the pipelines until it’s no longer sustainable and you need more. Nepotism = $$$$$, IMO.
 
Posted by SLOWSN95 (Member # 8269) on :
 
The thing that made me want to repeal prop 6 was the fact that it stated on the ballot "legislature does not need voter approval to change taxes again"
 
Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWSN95:
The thing that made me want to repeal prop 6 was the fact that it stated on the ballot "legislature does not need voter approval to change taxes again"
YUP.. we're fucked. I was hearing about 5 ads a day on my commute to work for vote No. Not any for yes
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Well hope everyone that voted to keep the gas tax is happy. When fuel prices go up. Everything goes up in price. You're avocado toast is going to cost more hipsters. Doesn't matter if you take bart/public transit/ride a bike... Eveyone WILL pay more.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by 68dustin:
i still can't believe the people of this stupid state voted NO on prop 6.. [Roll Eyes]
I knew it would pass. I honestly don't think these elections are real I think they rig them up on certain things to get shit to pass. You really think people wanna pay more for gas? Nope. I say that was already won before anyone voted. There's no real way for the people to see the votes so you just have to "trust" they're being honest.
Did you see how they described Prop 6 on the ballots, though? They used fear (“takes away $5 billion from infrastructure upgrades to our unsafe roads....first responders are against Prop 6!!”) to convince most people to vote against it, rather than calling it the gas tax repeal prop like it truly is.

They should instead focus on where the tax funds are being used. I bet ya a very shiny silver dollar that the funds have been misappropriated for a long time. Those of you in construction know how “carefully” timelines are managed for government contracts, or overtime is billed, etc. People and entities get comfortable with a certain level of money raining down the pipelines until it’s no longer sustainable and you need more. Nepotism = $$$$$, IMO.
Preach on bothers.
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
I pay 25 dollars everytime I go across a bridge in my big rig. On average I donthis twice a day.
50 a day
250 a week
1000 a month
13000 a year.

One driver in one big rig. Now how many fucking big rigs do you see in traffic every day? Somedays I pay upwards of 5 tolls. Pay mkre forfuel... The state makes money hand over fist. They have no idea how to budget money. We've never had a revanue problem. We've always had a spending problem.
 
Posted by saleen428 (Member # 7535) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
I pay 25 dollars everytime I go across a bridge in my big rig. On average I donthis twice a day.
50 a day
250 a week
1000 a month
13000 a year.

One driver in one big rig. Now how many fucking big rigs do you see in traffic every day? Somedays I pay upwards of 5 tolls. Pay mkre forfuel... The state makes money hand over fist. They have no idea how to budget money. We've never had a revanue problem. We've always had a spending problem.
Truth right there
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
I pay 25 dollars everytime I go across a bridge in my big rig. On average I donthis twice a day.
50 a day
250 a week
1000 a month
13000 a year.

One driver in one big rig. Now how many fucking big rigs do you see in traffic every day? Somedays I pay upwards of 5 tolls. Pay mkre forfuel... The state makes money hand over fist. They have no idea how to budget money. We've never had a revanue problem. We've always had a spending problem.
Another reason to not vote republican. A tax break for you, a hard working American is moral, which means your Uncle Sam has no money for it. Never in your life time have republicans reduced the size of government or did meaningful tax cuts for the middle class. You can keep hoping for change though, maybe the next republican will be for lower taxes, smaller government and the constitution. You have no reason to vote for either of the major parties that continue to fail the American citizen. A vote for a major party candidate is a vote to keep things exactly the way they are. Republicans and Democrats help the rich, screw everyone else. Now go listen to a bunch of actors playing the roll of journalists on your television try to trick you into thinking otherwise.


The last republican president stole over 2 trillion dollars of your tax dollars. That's $2,000,000,000,000 of your money. Enough to pay for all bridge tolls, housing for the homeless and put everyone's children through college with heaps left over. Instead the small government, Constitution respecting, lower taxes for the middle class republican cowboy spent your money to wire electrodes to innocent human's genitals and pump electricity through them. Trillions of your tax dollars at work.

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Mr Al-Qaisi pictured above with electrodes attached to his genitalia said afterwards "I'm spending sleepless nights thinking about the agony I went through... I even have recurring nightmares that I'm in my cell at Abu Ghraib, cell 49 as they called it, being tortured at the hands of the people of a great nation that carries the torch of freedom and human rights."


To conclude, think about this.
quote:
We write unlimited blank checks for war, we just wrote a 2 trillion dollar check for the GOP tax cut and nobody asks those folks how are they gonna pay for it. So my question is why are our pockets only empty when it comes to education and healthcare for our kids?

... We only have empty pockets when it comes to the morally right things to do.

When it comes to tax cuts for billionaires and when it comes to unlimited war, we seem to be able to invent that money very easily. To me, it belies a lack of moral priorities that people have right now, especially the Republican Party."


[ 2018-11-10, 02:44 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
The people who voted NO for prop 6 all live in cities cause they can walk to work and shit. If you look at a CA election map, literally 90% of the state is red. The blue is only the coastal cities
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
This state is straight stupid as hell. Cant wait to see whats next. Inb4 we are forced to drive electric cars "for the environment"

[ 2018-11-11, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Robb ]
 
Posted by theconductor (Member # 13458) on :
 
Ignorance, bad math, and reverse logic...

This thread does not disappoint!
 
Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by theconductor:
Ignorance, bad math, and reverse logic...

This thread does not disappoint!
Oh, you mean Martinna, agreed! [patriot]
 
Posted by 351w (Member # 11875) on :
 
The gas tax affects working class people with long commutes and high fuel costs every month, the fact that traffic is getting worse by the day only means more gas tax money to “maintain the roads”

On another note I purchased a plug in Hybrid for my wife with a 33 mile range, it costs 1.43 to charge it on a dedicated meter, I now have 2 meters for my house, initial cost doing all of the work myself with permits was around $1000, paying an electrician makes this an expensive job. I’m contemplating a second full electric car for longer trips since I’m working on minimizing my gas expense going forward. FYI my Foxbody runs on E85 and gets roughly 4MPG.

[ 2018-11-12, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: 351w ]
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
^ The problem is the second the state loses enough from people swapping to electric, they will up the price or electricity. They're already doing it too. People want to believe electric cars are cleaner. But where does a majority of the powerplants power come from? Wind & solar? I think NOT.
 
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
The Saudis are fucking us. Gas prices are about to go up. They are dropping supply in half.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
The Saudis are fucking us. Gas prices are about to go up. They are dropping supply in half.
No, it's the other way around. You're fucking them. The tax dollars you give your uncle Sam keeps in power crooked Saudi ruling dictators that step on the necks of their own people, or cut them off with bone saws. Saudi dictators don't let their people vote, go to movie theaters, women get educated or work. USA fake news tells you Saudi's hate you for your freedom [Roll Eyes] but the rest of the world knows they hate you because your Uncle Sam just sold their dictators $100 billion in weapons. This crime guarantees the dictators will step on the necks of their citizens, or cut them off with bone saws for decades to come.

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[ 2018-11-13, 04:17 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by 351w (Member # 11875) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
^ The problem is the second the state loses enough from people swapping to electric, they will up the price or electricity. They're already doing it too. People want to believe electric cars are cleaner. But where does a majority of the powerplants power come from? Wind & solar? I think NOT.
Not concerned with being green, just saving money, if you can charge on a separate meter which most don’t have the ability you can save money. Charging on your normal house meter can get really expensive and actually cost more than gas, most people don’t actually realize this.
 
Posted by IRISH (Member # 1629) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWSN95:
The thing that made me want to repeal prop 6 was the fact that it stated on the ballot "legislature does not need voter approval to change taxes again"
This was BIG!!!!! Fuck we are screwed!
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IRISH:
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWSN95:
The thing that made me want to repeal prop 6 was the fact that it stated on the ballot "legislature does not need voter approval to change taxes again"
This was BIG!!!!! Fuck we are screwed!
Yup. State has a ton of Republican/Conservative/Lebertarians... But we don't have the numbers in the bug cities to get the vote over the top. Hence why the Democrats are pushing for illegals. Democrats would have bult a wall if the people flooding into the USA were going to vote Republican. Only a small percentage does in the end.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Democrats are conservative. They want to keep things how they are. Isn't that the meaning of conservative? Which party is anti war? Which party is for smaller government? Which party is for lower taxes? Which party is against corporate and banking abuses? Which party is pro 1st amendment? Which party is pro 4th amendment? Don't be hoaxed into thinking there is a meaningful difference between Democrats or Republicans on positions that make the biggest difference in your life. They'll duke it out on TV to entertain you about hoax issues like transgender public bathrooms though [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Cost to end homelessness in America forever is only 22 billion dollars .
Your tax money was wasted to increase the military's budget by 82 billion dollars. This unnecessary use of your tax dollars is bigger than Russia's entire military budget. If good Americans only allowed their military budget increase to match Russia's entire military budget, the rest of the money could be used to end homelessness. If good Americans increase military spending by only 10 billion dollars, they can give every American student free college education so they don't have to spend their lives digging coal out of the dirt.

We only have empty pockets when it comes to the morally right things to do. When it comes to tax cuts for billionaires and when it comes to unlimited war, we seem to be able to invent that money very easily. To me, it belies a lack of moral priorities that people have right now.
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
The government always cries poor. They will always want more and more money. It's like a person on drugs. The American people fall for the BS everytime.
 
Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
Democrats are conservative. They want to keep things how they are. Isn't that the meaning of conservative? Which party is anti war? Which party is for smaller government? Which party is for lower taxes? Which party is against corporate and banking abuses? Which party is pro 1st amendment? Which party is pro 4th amendment? Don't be hoaxed into thinking there is a meaningful difference between Democrats or Republicans on positions that make the biggest difference in your life. They'll duke it out on TV to entertain you about hoax issues like transgender public bathrooms though [Roll Eyes]
Trump isn't a part of the NWO, and he is proving it.

They don't like that.

This is why 95%+ of the "news" is anti-Trump.

It's not really rocket science.

No more Paris Accord. No more UN, soon, hopefully. Worthless.

They elected a Saudi to head the fucking human rights council ROFL. GTFO.

I hope Trump pulls us out, brings all our troops home, and makes friendly with China and Russia.. and says.. hey.. go have fun.

We don't need this crap. Other countries protect themselves while still maintaining some sensible immigration policies.. the democrats here only care about illegals and the like because they VOTE FOR THEM.. like someone said, if they were worried the illegals would be voting GOP, you'd see the fucking border wall from space.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
95%+ of the "news" is anti-Trump because it makes large fake news corporations more money. NBC, CNN, FOX are all large corporations, not public service outlets. They'll distribute dozens of fake stories given to them by Generals telling you to invade an innocent country, kill, rape and torture their citizens. And you as a smart, well informed American will go on and kill, rape and torture their innocents.

The only goal of fake news outlets is to get you to buy what ever bullshit the people that pay them want you to buy. It can be bullshit propaganda from your Uncle Same or bullshit products from a large corporation. Uncle Sam is always selling you on who the new enemy is and a large corporation is always selling you some gadget.


The same Generals were just caught stealing 21 trillion dollars. Do you know how much 21 trillion dollars is? $21,000,000,000,000 of your money can end homelessness. Free college education for everyone. A Mustang for every American. Free heath care. Early retirement.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2017/12/08/has-our-government-spent-21-trillion-of-our-money-without-telling-us/

https://original.antiwar.com/paul/2018/11/19/pentagon-fails-first-audit-neocons-demand-more-spending/

No government official will go to jail for this theft. These crooked Generals and the large corporations that deliver their message to your pocket at the same time will tell you we need to raise your taxes. We can't hire enough teachers for your children's school. We can't afford to give you the best medicine, the best surgeon, the the doctor. They deliver this message straight to your pocket as they're robbing your tax money to buy more jets, build more bombs and cushion their pensions. Year by year military spending goes up just like your taxes and the only vicious enemy fake news can scare you with is a bunch of old hairy men with a cheap knock off AK47 wearing torn bed sheets in a cave.

The corrupt American military elite doesn't defend you. It only defends itself. Now bend over and give them your tax money.
 
Posted by theconductor (Member # 13458) on :
 
It has much more to do with age than political affiliation, but fuck, there needs to be a max age in government. I can't wait until the day old rich (mostly) white men are out.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1072521429063733250
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Race of the perpetrators isn't the problem. If purple people came here and killed off the natives for their land, you'd have the same problem with purple men. The problem is the lack of human morality.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
What happened to the wall that Mexico was going to pay for? Very smart Republicans now want to take billions and billions of dollars of your tax money to build the wall Mexico was going to pay for.

If you think the wall is going to get built, buy stocks in Chinese shovel manufacturers. Here is your 5 pesos wall bypass tool kit -------

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Guaranteed to bypass any wall in under an hour or your 5 pesos back.


You can't say Democrats are stupid. Republicans are equally stupid. There is no difference between them on issues that matter to you most.
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
^ this mexico builing a wall shit is only a circus, I just don’t get how trump supporters don’t realize that this immigration fiasco is a strategy. Trump is only the president, he is the face of the nation it’s not up to him what gets done or not all this needs to get approved and not by us but from Congress we all know that it’s all politics to keeps us away from the real problems.

Do you know the debt is almost 21 trillion dollars?

Do You know That u.s owes 5.7 trillion dollars to its own government?

Do you know that the public owes the rest of that debt totaling 15.6 trillion dollars?

Do you know that each and one of them/us taxpayers owe $400,000 to “our government” to clear this
debt?

Do you know Social Security Is Running Dry?

Do you know we’re the government gets these funds in the first place? Well it’s from our own hard work money. This includes every and any type of insurance we pay, every dollar that goes to our savings acct, any trust fund/investment we have.
Look many people don’t know that the Social Security Trust Fund, AKA your retirement money, owns most of the national debt.

you just don’t question Social Security, You pay into it your whole career, and you expect to get paid when you retire.
No politician dares say you won’t.

Now, if the politicians were honest, they would tell us not to bet on Social Security… or Medicare, for that matter. Both programs are unsustainable without major changes no one wants to make.

The money is simply not there. As it stands, the retirement income and medical benefits millions think they already paid for. ...

Did we know any of this was going on??? Wait! I forgot all this that I just said was happening back in September - October when Nike had everyone Pissed off and those bomb packages to politicians.


Ps: I hate politics and Conspiracy theory. Don’t get me wrong I love the U.S or else I wouldn’t live here obviously.. But reality sucks, some government officials are sneaky and evil. Hey, people with money and power do some crazy shit.
Just my two cents.

Oh! so please don’t vote for that wall I don’t want to pay more taxes on top of that $400,000 that I already owe.

Thanks trump supporters I know you guys are not rocket scientist but hopefully this makes sense.

[ 2018-12-13, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
El Caballo --------- you're being far too logical. Those that don't like people from "shit hole countries" have no problem running themselves into debt to calm their emotional fears and hate. Logic never beats fear and hate with the average human.


This wall video wasn't meant to be comedy, but it is -----

https://vimeo.com/189015526

https://fieldofvision.org/best-of-luck-with-the-wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIe9p7tslpg


Best of Luck with the Wall!
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
^ What would be your plan to protect the border?
How would you fix the national debt?
Social security?
Deal with a media that's controled by a small group of powerfull families?

[ 2018-12-13, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: SLOWBACK 67 ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Protect the boarder from who? The Irish that sneaked over to work in textile? The Italians that sneaked over the boarder to work in American factories? The Chinese that sneaked over to lay down railroad tracks? It's America ---Everyone sneaked over, except the native Americans.

The solution is obvious. For decades the crooked CIA has meddled in Latin countries, propping up dictators that step on the neck of their citizens and steal a poor nation's wealth. If America abolishes the corrupt CIA and spends a tiny fraction of the defunct CIA's budget to develop justice and economics in these countries, mothers won't walk barefoot for a thousand miles with a 5 year old daughter holding her hand in hopes of food, education and shelter for her young. If a mother is willing to risk so much, maybe you should let her pick your strawberries for you.

The solution is to go to these countries and build schools. Imprison corrupt police and public officials. Build Universities. Develop the economy. Citizens of a flourishing nation don't have an incentive to emigrate.

Look at the length the wall has to be --------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIe9p7tslpg It's not possible to build a wall that big across the southern border.
What ever the solution is, it's not billions of your tax dollars wasted on a wall that can be bypassed in a few minutes with a 5 pesos made in China shovel.
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
We spend billions of dollars trying to deal with illegal imigration every year.
Also Martina, we can't build a wall? Have you ever heard of the great wall of china? You can see that fucker from space LOL. China built that thing with no power tools to keep mongolians out.

I am 100% for building a wall on our southern border.

You also said everyone that's not a native american is an illegal? GTFOH with that shit. What was life really like for the native americans prior to colonial times?
Fighting, killing, living to the ripe age of 29... That's if you didn't get killed by a rival tribe of killed by a predator.
Tired of people pretending the Natives had it all figured out... Like we should strive to be like them. Have fun living in a tent made from the hide of an animal. I'll stick to my car and temperpedic matress thank you.
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
Let’s be realistic, building a wall will do nothing but Throw away all that money. The problem is not the wall it’s the border officials Who will take a bribe to look the other way while immigrants cross. You think the u.s is not Corrupt? I’m not saying they all are but it only takes one money hungry border patrol agent to let a shit load of immigrants cross freely on that day or for a few hours he is In charge of that station.. how many cops or BP have been convicted for helping drug traffickers? Enough I’ll tell you that.

Plus, if you guys are Supporting the wall then you better put your input and tell the president to not only build up a 30’ wall, make sure that he builds that thing 50’ down. Immigrants cross more frequently through tunnels then jumping over it.

[ 2018-12-25, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
We spend billions of dollars trying to deal with illegal imigration every year.
Also Martina, we can't build a wall? Have you ever heard of the great wall of china? You can see that fucker from space LOL. China built that thing with no power tools to keep mongolians out.

I am 100% for building a wall on our southern border.

You also said everyone that's not a native american is an illegal? GTFOH with that shit. What was life really like for the native americans prior to colonial times?
Fighting, killing, living to the ripe age of 29... That's if you didn't get killed by a rival tribe of killed by a predator.
Tired of people pretending the Natives had it all figured out... Like we should strive to be like them. Have fun living in a tent made from the hide of an animal. I'll stick to my car and temperpedic matress thank you.
Regardless of how you feel about people from other countries, this whole "build a wall" is just a farce and a song and dance to quelm the minds of voters with irrational, simple minds. You really want to stop people? Invest that money in modern technology with a combination of drones, unmanned air vehicles, and cameras with machine learning algorithms to detect human traffic vs. wildlife. Those who stand to profit billions a year will find a way to get around a stupid static wall. Comparing this to the Great Wall that took over 1,500 years to build is a silly comparison, too.

I bet you Google could do a better job of protecting the borders instead of the archaic U.S. Government. Everything operates like a slow, lumbering machine and tax dollars are wasted throughout. Those in power are old, ignorant to technology, and only care to advance the agenda of themselves and their wealthy friends (campaign contributors). We're all foolish if we think "voting" truly gives us power as opposed to those wealthy fucks.

I mean, FFS, the Supreme Court Justices who have the final say in deciding cases per interpretation of the constitution don't have a grasp of how cell phones work. One of them posed a question asking what would happen if you receive a text at the same time you're sending one; would the other person receive a text saying "Sorry, the recipient is busy at the moment but your message is very important to us." COME THE FUGG ON. We entrust these people who are out of touch with various realities and live in their siloed little upper wealth circles.

Before you come back and shout "oh you silly liberals" or something to that effect - I'm NOT. The far left is just as batshit crazy.

[ 2018-12-25, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: Black 02 SS ]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El Caballo:
Let’s be realistic, building a wall will do nothing but Throw away all that money. The problem is not the wall it’s the border officials Who will take a bribe to look the other way while immigrants cross. You think the u.s is not Corrupt? I’m not saying they all are but it only takes one money hungry border patrol agent to let a shit load of immigrants cross freely on that day or for a few hours he is In charge of that station.. how many cops or BP have been convicted for helping drug traffickers? Enough I’ll tell you that.

Plus, if you guys are Supporting the wall then you better put your input and tell the president to not only build up a 30’ wall, make sure that he builds that thing 50’ down. Immigrants cross more frequently through tunnels then jumping over it.
You make too much sense. We live in a time where a guy in a toupee is so smart he has millions of idiots thinking a wall will fix their problems. LMAO This ain't 1878 we got many sources of transportation nowadays. I have a coworker who is a chump supporter too all he ever says "oh no we need a wall there's so many MS13 members coming in killing people because they're so violent, they're brutal." I asked him "so how many MS13 members you come across? And you do know they're not Mexican either right?" answer was none and didn't know they weren't Mexican but trump news told him they were here and killing y'all.
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by El Caballo:
Let’s be realistic, building a wall will do nothing but Throw away all that money. The problem is not the wall it’s the border officials Who will take a bribe to look the other way while immigrants cross. You think the u.s is not Corrupt? I’m not saying they all are but it only takes one money hungry border patrol agent to let a shit load of immigrants cross freely on that day or for a few hours he is In charge of that station.. how many cops or BP have been convicted for helping drug traffickers? Enough I’ll tell you that.

Plus, if you guys are Supporting the wall then you better put your input and tell the president to not only build up a 30’ wall, make sure that he builds that thing 50’ down. Immigrants cross more frequently through tunnels then jumping over it.
You make too much sense. We live in a time where a guy in a toupee is so smart he has millions of idiots thinking a wall will fix their problems. LMAO This ain't 1878 we got many sources of transportation nowadays. I have a coworker who is a chump supporter too all he ever says "oh no we need a wall there's so many MS13 members coming in killing people because they're so violent, they're brutal." I asked him "so how many MS13 members you come across? And you do know they're not Mexican either right?" answer was none and didn't know they weren't Mexican but trump news told him they were here and killing y'all.
Yea it’s crazy how so many people can’t just process and rethink of what can be the outcome of something like this. Trump strategy was to have all these immigrants come in caravan to the USA border so all his followers and politicians could see how “savage” these people are lol shit in my lifetime there has never been a caravan of immigrants heading to the border till now and they wasn’t even Mexican lol and all this so he can put pressure on the Mexican and U.S government to let them know how scary this issue is and hopefully get the funds for a wall,
(were is the caravan now? LoL )...Honestly I don’t like him but I got to give it to him becuse he is a wise man that’s why he is where he’s at now. It’s his followers that annoyed me thinking he knows what he is doing will work. His followers probably forgot there’s a Canada border lol... trump supporters really Need to call for a meeting and get together at Denny’s and really really think if what he is doing will work or if it makes sense before he throws another fit like my 5 year old nephew and shuts down the “government” again Because hes not getting what he wants, at the end the ones that pay the consequences is us and not the politicians.

officials know that a wall is not gonna make a difference that’s why they don’t want to give him the funds or else they shouldn’t hesitate on doing this if it is a national security problem. only because trump said so? lol

[ 2018-12-26, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Geroge Soros was funding the caravan. Trump and his supports had nothing to do with it.
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Geroge Soros was funding the caravan. Trump and his supports had nothing to do with it.
I hate politics [Big Grin]

[ 2018-12-26, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El Caballo:
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Geroge Soros was funding the caravan. Trump and his supports had nothing to do with it.
I hate politics [Big Grin]
I like turtles.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
We spend billions of dollars trying to deal with illegal imigration every year.
Also Martina, we can't build a wall? Have you ever heard of the great wall of china? You can see that fucker from space LOL. China built that thing with no power tools to keep mongolians out.

I am 100% for building a wall on our southern border.
Black 02 SS slapped you down hard on this one. "Comparing this to the Great Wall that took over 1,500 years to build is a silly". 1,500 years of what's tantamount to slave labor for hunderds of thousands of Chineese poor. China would be better off today if they spent that money educating hunderds of thousands of their children instead.

The Trump wall is now a trump fence. And it will never cover the entire border. A big beautiful wall along your southern border is a hoax like draining the swamp was a hoax and locking her up was a hoax. To be neutral, hope and change was a hoax too.


quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:


You also said everyone that's not a native american is an illegal? GTFOH with that shit. What was life really like for the native americans prior to colonial times?
Fighting, killing, living to the ripe age of 29... That's if you didn't get killed by a rival tribe of killed by a predator.
What you said is if an advance civilization comes over, takes the homes of you and your family in forced relocations, you'd be okay with it if hundreds of years later those advance people end up building good homes and living longer than you do. If another man knocks on your door saying he's here to take your home and have his way with your wife, you'd be okay with it as long hundreds of years from now your invador builds a better house and lives longer?


Tell me more. I don't know which one of your two stances above is more crazy man.

[ 2019-01-02, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
What happened to the wall that Mexico was going to pay for? Very smart Republicans now want to take billions and billions of dollars of your tax money to build the wall Mexico was going to pay for.

If you think the wall is going to get built, buy stocks in Chinese shovel manufacturers. Here is your 5 pesos wall bypass tool kit -------

<img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/PPShovel01.svg/512px-PPShovel01.svg.png" style="max-width: 640px" alt=" - " />

Guaranteed to bypass any wall in under an hour or your 5 pesos back.


You can't say Democrats are stupid. Republicans are equally stupid. There is no difference between them on issues that matter to you most.
Mexico has paid for the wall multiple times over, already.

If you think they enjoy tens of thousands of fucking immigrants from other countries bombarding their borders and endangering their citizens then hmm.. of course they aren't a fan of all that caravan stunt shit.. it was obviously soros garbage, obama, etc. who wanted it for the midterms.. soon as that was over, POOF>. where is the caravan now? Certainly not in the news, lol.

Same with Vegas, Orlando, yadda yadda.. it's all false flag, horseshit lies.

In the meanwhile, Trump is still pissing people off, which is a very good sign for America and the people who understand what's happening behind the scenes.

Btw, Trump only asked for 5b. How much does it cost annually to pay for the illegals? That wasn't such an issue back during the Obama campaign years? Member when Chucky demanded money for a wall? And Pelosi? You can look it up on youtube LOL.. wasn't that long ago, everyone..

Member when Bill Clinton gave the illegal alien speech? Also on youtube. Obama campaign trail '08? Oh yeah, BORDER SECURITY!! But nope.. not now that Trump wants to actually do it and has the power... Naw. You can seriously watch all their shit from all those years, Chucky, Pelosi, Obama, Hillary, ALL OF EM.. Wanting to enforce border security.. lulz.

Mexico "paying" for the wall, can be taken multiple ways. If you built one, all the people who say a shovel will help.. umm.. you ASSUME there is nobody guarding it?

Do you know how many homeless, jobless, starving, poor, treated like dirt VETERANS.. OF WARS.. WHO FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY*** (lol) would gladly go up there, and stand every 100 yards apart, just for the shot at a warm bunk, 3 meals, and an opportunity to "serve" their country again in return for something simple they have been deprived of over all these years?

Sadly, a lot would say yes.. they would. Sucks to think about, huh? How badly some people who gave their lives, limbs, and such, are treated.. then Trump signs the largest military spending bill ever, gives them the biggest raise in history, and guess what? Liberals.. MAD.

Is this some sorta sick fucking twisted reality since the last 50 years or something?

What in the flying fuck happened?

[ 2019-01-03, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Blown93Snake ]
 
Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El Caballo:
^ this mexico builing a wall shit is only a circus, I just don’t get how trump supporters don’t realize that this immigration fiasco is a strategy. Trump is only the president, he is the face of the nation it’s not up to him what gets done or not all this needs to get approved and not by us but from Congress we all know that it’s all politics to keeps us away from the real problems.

Do you know the debt is almost 21 trillion dollars?

Do You know That u.s owes 5.7 trillion dollars to its own government?

Do you know that the public owes the rest of that debt totaling 15.6 trillion dollars?

Do you know that each and one of them/us taxpayers owe $400,000 to “our government” to clear this
debt?

Do you know Social Security Is Running Dry?

Do you know we’re the government gets these funds in the first place? Well it’s from our own hard work money. This includes every and any type of insurance we pay, every dollar that goes to our savings acct, any trust fund/investment we have.
Look many people don’t know that the Social Security Trust Fund, AKA your retirement money, owns most of the national debt.

you just don’t question Social Security, You pay into it your whole career, and you expect to get paid when you retire.
No politician dares say you won’t.

Now, if the politicians were honest, they would tell us not to bet on Social Security… or Medicare, for that matter. Both programs are unsustainable without major changes no one wants to make.

The money is simply not there. As it stands, the retirement income and medical benefits millions think they already paid for. ...

Did we know any of this was going on??? Wait! I forgot all this that I just said was happening back in September - October when Nike had everyone Pissed off and those bomb packages to politicians.


Ps: I hate politics and Conspiracy theory. Don’t get me wrong I love the U.S or else I wouldn’t live here obviously.. But reality sucks, some government officials are sneaky and evil. Hey, people with money and power do some crazy shit.
Just my two cents.

Oh! so please don’t vote for that wall I don’t want to pay more taxes on top of that $400,000 that I already owe.

Thanks trump supporters I know you guys are not rocket scientist but hopefully this makes sense.
Yet in 8 years Obama more than doubled our Nat'l debt while de-stabilizing our military, de-funding Nasa (which I will agree is ehhhhh) and other such items. But hey.. lol.

Benghazi? Naw.

Clinton Foundation stealing 11B from Haiti? Naw.

Fast and furious? Eric Holder and Gun running? Naw.

Using the IRS to spy on people? Naw.

Using fake FISA warrants to spy on incoming Trump Campaign.. naw.

LOL.. Could go all day man.. they play from both sides.

That's the problem. They are always dividing.

Didn't you pay attention to Bush Sr?

Here, since most of you probably never saw it, and never will bother to look it up.. fuck..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBIZcnmuolI

Think about it.. hard.

Smoke a blunt.. THINK.. ABOUT.. IT.. Think above your own fucking slot in life.. it involves all of us...

FUCK... they are doing exactly what they wanted......

Easily, too.. social media and this type of this is why it's so easy...
 
Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El Caballo:
Let’s be realistic, building a wall will do nothing but Throw away all that money. The problem is not the wall it’s the border officials Who will take a bribe to look the other way while immigrants cross. You think the u.s is not Corrupt? I’m not saying they all are but it only takes one money hungry border patrol agent to let a shit load of immigrants cross freely on that day or for a few hours he is In charge of that station.. how many cops or BP have been convicted for helping drug traffickers? Enough I’ll tell you that.

Plus, if you guys are Supporting the wall then you better put your input and tell the president to not only build up a 30’ wall, make sure that he builds that thing 50’ down. Immigrants cross more frequently through tunnels then jumping over it.
Can you plz post pictures of Hillary, Obama, Nancy Pelosi, the Vatican, etc., house?

They all got huge fuckin' walls with armed guards, homie.

What planet do you live on?

Do you find it a bit odd, that guys like Jim Carrey, and Hillary claim that guns should be done away with, yet employ fucking armed guards to protect them?

Cue the Alanis Morissette song, fuck me.

Here.. let me make a bit more clear for some of you fucking idiots.. been to Disneyland, lately?

Baseball game? Football game? Hockey game? ANYTHING?

I bet you didn't sneak the fuck in.

LMFAO. You did what you're supposed to do, and get a ticket and stand in line.. and do it so you don't get in trouble.. DIDN'T YOU? And I bet.. everything I fucking own.. you did it, and made your wife, kids, cousins, friends, etc. do it the same goddamn way.. DIDN'T YOU?

I love it.

[ 2019-01-03, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: Blown93Snake ]
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blown93Snake:
quote:
Originally posted by El Caballo:
Let’s be realistic, building a wall will do nothing but Throw away all that money. The problem is not the wall it’s the border officials Who will take a bribe to look the other way while immigrants cross. You think the u.s is not Corrupt? I’m not saying they all are but it only takes one money hungry border patrol agent to let a shit load of immigrants cross freely on that day or for a few hours he is In charge of that station.. how many cops or BP have been convicted for helping drug traffickers? Enough I’ll tell you that.

Plus, if you guys are Supporting the wall then you better put your input and tell the president to not only build up a 30’ wall, make sure that he builds that thing 50’ down. Immigrants cross more frequently through tunnels then jumping over it.
Can you plz post pictures of Hillary, Obama, Nancy Pelosi, the Vatican, etc., house?

They all got huge fuckin' walls with armed guards, homie.

What planet do you live on?

Do you find it a bit odd, that guys like Jim Carrey, and Hillary claim that guns should be done away with, yet employ fucking armed guards to protect them?

Cue the Alanis Morissette song, fuck me.

Here.. let me make a bit more clear for some of you fucking idiots.. been to Disneyland, lately?

Baseball game? Football game? Hockey game? ANYTHING?

I bet you didn't sneak the fuck in.

LMFAO. You did what you're supposed to do, and get a ticket and stand in line.. and do it so you don't get in trouble.. DIDN'T YOU? And I bet.. everything I fucking own.. you did it, and made your wife, kids, cousins, friends, etc. do it the same goddamn way.. DIDN'T YOU?

I love it.
You’re comparing apples and oranges here. Walls and guards protecting high level politicians and amusement parks cannot be compare to the u.s border or any border in your planet earth. Where’s the profit on that? Why would anyone with Commonsense try to sneak in into these places? What’s to gain??.. But hey sometimes having the right connections you can enter into any of these places for free or for a very low fee, you don’t have to sneak in
[Wink] .. it’s all about how money hungry a person is and how they can abuse there power and control to let something happen legal or not for money or favor, Sooo no! Sometimes I don’t pay or wait in line to get into places like games or Disneyland. Gees! Are you that ignorant Thinking that everyone is legit with there position? Money is evil and people would give there soul to the devil for it.. “Sneaking” in to the u.s Through the border makes a lot of people money there’s a lot of people that profit from illegal entry Anything that’s illegal makes a lot of profit sadly the temptation is there. You might be that low percentage of people that goes by the book and rules and if you are, then that’s good I [patriot] you. Again sadly the other percentage of people don’t think like you and are Greedy. People that actually care about illegal entry should go and guard the damn border them selves and save all those billions and put them to good use! problem solved!, they shouldn’t trust others that don’t care And are just there to collect a check.

And to throw it out there Im not supporting illegal entry to the u.s I believe it should be done the right way but as long as mexico has a fucked up system immigrants will keep crossing illegally to the u.s and that’s reality! So Go ahead Build a wall that’s 100 feet tall trust me there’s gonna be that one greedy selfish motherfucker that’s gonna let them in Through the door anyway., Homie.

Cheers,
from Mars

[ 2019-01-04, 02:04 AM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
i wont be depending on social security, any young person who is needs their life goals checked. lol
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:
i wont be depending on social security, any young person who is needs their life goals checked. lol
I’m pretty sure all of us here agree to your comment becuse there’s no way a person can live of $2,600 or a bit more a month from social security. No matter if you live in the valley much less here in the Bay Area. The point is that’s extra income on top of other funds/investments that you have for retirement.

[ 2019-01-04, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El Caballo:

Walls and guards protecting high level politicians and amusement parks cannot be compare to the u.s border or any border in your planet earth.
Yes! These cretins that have fallen for the wall hoax don't realize how big the wall is ---------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIe9p7tslpg The inventor of the hoax is half way through his presidency and not a single brick has been laid. Look at how long the wall has to be -------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIe9p7tslpg Never going to happen in 2 years. Yes, I know. The great wall of China was built in 1,500 years with hundreds of thousands of people in slave labor.


If you don't want Mexicans to come in, take that 5,000 million dollars and build schools and businesses in Mexico. They won't want to come here if they have good schools and jobs. If a mother is going to walk a thousand miles barefoot with a child in each arm, having to dig under a wall for 30 minutes won't stop her.
-

I'm starting to think these people that have fallen for the wall hoax are worse than the people that fell for the hope and change coax. Many that fell for the hope and change hoax admit today they were tricked. I'm not sure the people that fell for the wall hoax will ever being able to admit they were tricked, and they're willing to spend billions of your tax dollars to preserve their pride!
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
off topic but you know what grinds my gears.... renters voting on my property taxes. lol
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
Government has been shutdown like 14 days and i have not even noticed. Doesnt this just prove we dont need this much government?
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
govt shuts down for a couple weeks and all you hear about is visitors pooping at national parks. Well, thats all ive heard lol
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:
off topic but you know what grinds my gears.... renters voting on my property taxes. lol
Agreed
It's like up north with their "no state sales taxes" But property taxes are double. These fuckers will always find a way to take from those who produce, then give it to lazy people who are looking for handouts.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
How can anyone support the representative from Michigan taking oath on the Quran . The whole idea of the United States is to assimilate. Shit makes no sense.

[ 2019-01-04, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
How can anyone support the representative from Michigan taking oath on the Quran . The whole idea of the United States is to assimilate. Shit makes no sense.
[Eek!] Crazy talk. The country was founded in part on religion freedom. The whole idea of the United States is to be free to take an oath on what ever holy book you'd like! It's very unpatriotic to think otherwise! [Eek!]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:
off topic but you know what grinds my gears.... renters voting on my property taxes. lol
Why get mad at poor people? They might take a few bucks from you here and there. It's nothing compared to what the rich steal from you. Your pentagon was just caught stealing 21 trillion dollars. Do you know how much 21 trillion dollars is? $21,000,000,000,000 of your money can end homelessness. Free college education for everyone. A Mustang for every American. Free heath care. Early retirement.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2017/12/08/has-our-government-spent-21-trillion-of-our-money-without-telling-us/

https://original.antiwar.com/paul/2018/11/19/pentagon-fails-first-audit-neocons-demand-more-spending/


Corrupted generals just got caught stealing enough money to give free college education for you and your kids, free car, free early retirement and you're mad at the people with no money and no power? Are you serious? When something is wrong with your society, it's never the fault of the people with no money and no power, the poor. Don't look down the ladder of society for the problems in your world, look up.

The most powerful factions in your society, the political and financial factions, have committed literally the most egregious crimes that exist and people here are mad at poor the guy struggling to pay his landlord rent every month.


People have lost their minds in this post!
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
How can anyone support the representative from Michigan taking oath on the Quran . The whole idea of the United States is to assimilate. Shit makes no sense.
LOL oh, BOY.

Is it the fact that you think that everyone who is Muslim doesn't belong in this country, is a terrorist, or something similar? That being a citizen of this country thereby implies whatever other religion you ascribe to is now obsolete or worthless?

I am ALL for assimilating to the day-to-day culture, but expecting people to completely ditch their religion? Jesus Christ and a half, you all are some seriously close-minded people.

I'm not religious at all, FWIW.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
How can anyone support the representative from Michigan taking oath on the Quran . The whole idea of the United States is to assimilate. Shit makes no sense.
LOL oh, BOY.

Is it the fact that you think that everyone who is Muslim doesn't belong in this country, is a terrorist, or something similar? That being a citizen of this country thereby implies whatever other religion you ascribe to is

I am ALL for assimilating to the day-to-day culture, but expecting people to completely ditch their religion? Jesus Christ and a half, you all are some seriously close-minded people.

I'm not religious at all, FWIW.
I’m not saying people should be ditching their religion. I am against this lady who has anti Semitic views taking oath on the Quran.

This lady is supposed to be representing the state of Michigan. Yet all she has done is talk about Palestine. It’s pretty clear she has other items on her agenda.

If you are all for assimilation how could you not have a issue with her calling herself Palestinian American or anyone else labeling themselves similarly. You’re in the USA, you’re American.

Have you even seen where she has talked about Michigan one time?

Btw I am not religious at all.

[ 2019-01-05, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 
Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
How can anyone support the representative from Michigan taking oath on the Quran . The whole idea of the United States is to assimilate. Shit makes no sense.
LOL oh, BOY.

Is it the fact that you think that everyone who is Muslim doesn't belong in this country, is a terrorist, or something similar? That being a citizen of this country thereby implies whatever other religion you ascribe to is now obsolete or worthless?

I am ALL for assimilating to the day-to-day culture, but expecting people to completely ditch their religion? Jesus Christ and a half, you all are some seriously close-minded people.

I'm not religious at all, FWIW.
Um.. do you understand how the laws in this country work?

Lol..
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:

I’m not saying people should be ditching their religion. I am against this lady who has anti Semitic views taking oath on the Quran.

This lady is supposed to be representing the state of Michigan. Yet all she has done is talk about Palestine. It’s pretty clear she has other items on her agenda.
Buddy, you need better information. You got your facts backwards. Palestine is a very poor country that was invaded by a very rich and powerful country. Israel created the world's biggest open air prison in Palestine. Read the list of banned goods. You're on the wrong side of justice when you're mad at poor people with no money or power and the people that defend their human rights. Very unAmerican of you!
At the exact moment millions of women, children and innocent men are being unjustly kept in an open air prison, American's are being force to sign an oath of loyalty to Israel. Can you imagine as an American being forced to sign a oath of loyalty to another country? https://consortiumnews.com/2019/01/02/fired-school-employee-sues-over-israel-loyalty-oath/ Only the most unpatriotic of Americans think like you do. You better get back behind the American flag and the principles this country was founded on!
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:

I’m not saying people should be ditching their religion. I am against this lady who has anti Semitic views taking oath on the Quran.

This lady is supposed to be representing the state of Michigan. Yet all she has done is talk about Palestine. It’s pretty clear she has other items on her agenda.
Buddy, you need better information. You got your facts backwards. Palestine is a very poor country that was invaded by a very rich and powerful country. Israel created the world's biggest open air prison in Palestine. Read the list of banned goods. You're on the wrong side of justice when you're mad at poor people with no money or power and the people that defend their human rights. Very unAmerican of you!
At the exact moment millions of women, children and innocent men are being unjustly kept in an open air prison, American's are being force to sign an oath of loyalty to Israel. Can you imagine as an American being forced to sign a oath of loyalty to another country? https://consortiumnews.com/2019/01/02/fired-school-employee-sues-over-israel-loyalty-oath/ Only the most unpatriotic of Americans think like you do. You better get back behind the American flag and the principles this country was founded on!
You are wrong. There is no country Palestine.

What facts of mine are incorrect? Tlaib is aligned with Sarsour who is clearly anti Semitic which it looks like you’re okay with.

She was voted to represent Michigan yet clearly ya other agendas.

Anyways, thanks to these New Democrats we are going to definitely have trump 2020.

[ 2019-01-06, 08:47 AM: Message edited by: adower ]
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blown93Snake:
quote:
Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:
How can anyone support the representative from Michigan taking oath on the Quran . The whole idea of the United States is to assimilate. Shit makes no sense.
LOL oh, BOY.

Is it the fact that you think that everyone who is Muslim doesn't belong in this country, is a terrorist, or something similar? That being a citizen of this country thereby implies whatever other religion you ascribe to is now obsolete or worthless?

I am ALL for assimilating to the day-to-day culture, but expecting people to completely ditch their religion? Jesus Christ and a half, you all are some seriously close-minded people.

I'm not religious at all, FWIW.
Um.. do you understand how the laws in this country work?

Lol..
Lol...

Um...no, I must have slept through that part of general ed like most other American students. Do englighten me on which specific laws you’re referring to, sir.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:


You are wrong. There is no country Palestine.

What facts of mine are incorrect?

Where do you get your information from man? Palestine was invaded by some of the richest most powerful people in the world and is still occupied to this day -------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine The mega wealthy have been trying to wipe Palestine off the map for more than half a century. Many states recognize Palestine. Sweden, United Kingdom, Columbia and many more recognize the state of Palestine ------- https://www.sporcle.com/blog/2013/01/is-palestine-a-country/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idad9kZ5Ccw https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/2b7v2i/countries_that_recognize_the_state_of_palestine/

Lay off the fake news, it's corrupting your logic and keeping you from the most obvious facts. Do a simple search before you post something in this thread and back up your claims with links like I do.


quote:
Originally posted by adower:


Tlaib is aligned with Sarsour who is clearly anti Semitic which it looks like you’re okay with.
Do you know what Semitic means? A simple internet search ---- "of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Semitic To be anti Semitic includes being anti Hewbrew AND anti Arab. Using the dictionary definition of your own words, Tlaib is both anti Arab and anti Jew. You seem confused and are haphazardly accusing others, using words whose definitions of you do not understand. I don't blame you personally. You sound like you've been misled by what ever fake news outlets you get your information from.

quote:
Originally posted by adower:



She was voted to represent Michigan yet clearly ya other agendas.
The congressional representatives of 26 other states were voted to represent the interests of their own states, but they don't. Why are you mad at the one American congressional representative agenda to stand up for some of the poorest women, children and innocent men in the world, and not mad at over a hundred other congressional representatives that take blood money from the richest, most powerful people in the world to do their dirty bidding? Again, you're not being logically consistent or patriotic.


quote:
Originally posted by adower:



Anyways, thanks to these New Democrats we are going to definitely have trump 2020.
Probably, but you're changing topics. Get better informed my friend. The fake news you put in your brain has got you confused. Think critically for your self and get back behind the American flag and the values this country was founded upon.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by adower:


You are wrong. There is no country Palestine.

What facts of mine are incorrect?

Where do you get your information from man? Palestine was invaded by some of the richest most powerful people in the world and is still occupied to this day -------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine The mega wealthy have been trying to wipe Palestine off the map for more than half a century. Many states recognize Palestine. Sweden, United Kingdom, Columbia and many more recognize the state of Palestine ------- https://www.sporcle.com/blog/2013/01/is-palestine-a-country/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idad9kZ5Ccw https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/2b7v2i/countries_that_recognize_the_state_of_palestine/

Lay off the fake news, it's corrupting your logic and keeping you from the most obvious facts. Do a simple search before you post something in this thread and back up your claims with links like I do.


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Tlaib is aligned with Sarsour who is clearly anti Semitic which it looks like you’re okay with.
Do you know what Semitic means? A simple internet search ---- "of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Semitic To be anti Semitic includes being anti Hewbrew AND anti Arab. Using the dictionary definition of your own words, Tlaib is both anti Arab and anti Jew. You seem confused and are haphazardly accusing others, using words whose definitions of you do not understand. I don't blame you personally. You sound like you've been misled by what ever fake news outlets you get your information from.
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She was voted to represent Michigan yet clearly ya other agendas.
The congressional representatives of 26 other states were voted to represent the interests of their own states, but they don't. Why are you mad at the one American congressional representative agenda to stand up for some of the poorest women, children and innocent men in the world, and not mad at over a hundred other congressional representatives that take blood money from the richest, most powerful people in the world to do their dirty bidding? Again, you're not being logically consistent or patriotic.


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Anyways, thanks to these New Democrats we are going to definitely have trump 2020.
Probably, but you're changing topics. Get better informed my friend. The fake news you put in your brain has got you confused. Think critically for your self and get back behind the American flag and the values this country was founded upon.
1. Palestine is not a country. You sighted Wikipedia so I’ll stop there.

2. Look up the word antisemitic. The definition is plain as day. Trying to argue that is a waste of breath.

3. Of course I’m not for anyone who holds anti Semitic views or any racist views. Why wouldn’t you be mad at that?
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
My biggest problem with Islam is what the book tells it's followers to do. What to say. How to lie and promotes the killing of anyone who doesn't convert to Islam. It's clear as day that the objective of this religion is to convert the whole world to their religion.Those who will not follow the laws are to be punished.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
My biggest problem with Islam is what the book tells it's followers to do. What to say. How to lie and promotes the killing of anyone who doesn't convert to Islam. It's clear as day that the objective of this religion is to convert the whole world to their religion.Those who will not follow the laws are to be punished.
You just described most all religions. Corrupt US General Boykin advocated for invading an innocent country, Iraq, killing innocents by the thousands because his god was bigger.

It is amazing how un self aware some gentleman in this post are. Black 02 SS ------- help me out here. I've been reduced to defending wikipedia and refuting the alleged words from an invisible man in the sky that controls both the entire universe and the after life. Meanwhile the same people cheer when corruped Sacramento police shoot an innocent, unarmed father 7 times in the back in his own back yard and are silent when their uncle sam steals 21 trillion dollars of their tax dollars, enough money for free college education for everyone, end homelessness, a Mustang for every American. Free heath care. Early retirement. These patriots will never say one word against their uncle sam robbing their future blind. They're too busy celebrating crooked cops that shot an innocent black father 7 times in the back. Black 02 SS, help me out man. I'm starting to lose hope for these brutish organisms.

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Posted by 86redGT (Member # 6961) on :
 
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
My biggest problem with Christianity is what the book tells it's followers to do. What to say. How to lie and promotes the killing of anyone who doesn't convert to Christianity . It's clear as day that the objective of this religion is to convert the whole world to their religion.Those who will not follow the laws are to be punished.
You can also say this of almost any religion, have a read through the old testament if you think fundamentalist Christians would treat people any better than the fundamentalist Muslims do.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
My biggest problem with Islam is what the book tells it's followers to do. What to say. How to lie and promotes the killing of anyone who doesn't convert to Islam. It's clear as day that the objective of this religion is to convert the whole world to their religion.Those who will not follow the laws are to be punished.
Can you cite me some passages from the Quran (chapter and verses) stating how to lie and kill non-followers?

According to that logic, we have roughly 2-3 billion Muslims around the globe.. let that sink in.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
I remember someone back in the days didn't like Jews because well they were Jews.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
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I remember someone back in the days didn't like Jews because well they were Jews.
You're talking about the Romans that killed Jesus?
 
Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
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I remember someone back in the days didn't like Jews because well they were Jews.
You're talking about the Romans that killed Jesus?
lol I think he means a member here
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
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Originally posted by Martinna:
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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I remember someone back in the days didn't like Jews because well they were Jews.
You're talking about the Romans that killed Jesus?
lol I think he means a member here
No, the bourgeoisie. lol
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
There are a lot of Nazis in this country today. Their president emboldens their lurid views. You all need to watch this --------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I They're worried about Jews replacing them and their only complaint about trump is he isn't racist enough.
 




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